Marijuana withdrawal as bad as withdrawal from cigarettes

HisNameIsFrank said:
Whatever! While I have never smoked a cigarrette before in my life,I've seen plenty of people try to quit and fail. I smoked pot for years and when I was put on probation,I quit and haven't had the urge to pick up another joint in over a year now.
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the rate of success in quitting is different from the severity of the withdrawal. for example, most people would agree that opiate withdrawal is much worse than nicotine withdrawal. yet there are many people who have succesfully given up opiates but cannot quit cigarettes. this doesn't have to do with the withdrawal, it has to do with the fact that opiate using is much more of a lifestyle than cigarette smoking. when you quit opiates for instance, you must give up that lifestyle and it forces you to change. with cigarettes, since they are legal and only mininally alter your mind once youre addicted, it's very easy to go about your normal lifestyle while smoking cigarettes which makes some people more apt to fail when they try to quit. marijuana is more like opiates in the sense that it significantly alters your mind and so smoking it all the time becomes a lifestyle. once you've given up the lifestyle, it's easy for some people to think "i don't want to go back to that lifestyle so i will not make any attempts to pick up another bag of weed or dope" but when you quit cigarettes, it's easier to relapse because you can just get a pack at the gas station and it really doesn't affect your lifestyle.
 
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HisNameIsFrank said:
Whatever! While I have never smoked a cigarrette before in my life,I've seen plenty of people try to quit and fail. I smoked pot for years and when I was put on probation,I quit and haven't had the urge to pick up another joint in over a year now.
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The fact that were smoking joints suggests to me that you were never really addicted to the stuff anyway. Everyone knows that the favourite most common utencil of a 'pothead' is the 'waterpipe' or 'bong'. :o

burn out said:
the rate of success in quitting is different from the severity of the withdrawal. for example, most people would agree that opiate withdrawal is much worse than nicotine withdrawal. yet there are many people who have succesfully given up opiates but cannot quit cigarettes. this doesn't have to do with the withdrawal, it has to do with the fact that opiate using is much more of a lifestyle than cigarette smoking. when you quit opiates for instance, you must give up that lifestyle and it forces you to change. with cigarettes, since they are legal and only mininally alter your mind once youre addicted, it's very easy to go about your normal lifestyle while smoking cigarettes which makes some people more apt to fail when they try to quit. marijuana is more like opiates in the sense that it significantly alters your mind and so smoking it all the time becomes a lifestyle. once you've given up the lifestyle, it's easy for some people to think "i don't want to go back to that lifestyle so i will not make any attempts to pick up another bag of weed or dope" but when you quit cigarettes, it's easier to relapse because you can just get a pack at the gas station and it really doesn't affect your lifestyle.
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With that being said, this is also the reason why opiates and THC are more addictive and withdrawing than others. Because these drugs have a habit of controling peoples lifestyles, and it seems to be the only thing that matters in their lives, just waiting for the next fix, it makes it much harder for them to give them up, and feel healthy trying to do so.

Cigarettes on the other hand, are on the side of peoples lives and are of course very accessible and somewhat manageable, but it's addictive and withdrawal problems will always remain petty to the higher drugs.
 
The fact that were smoking joints suggests to me that you were never really addicted to the stuff anyway. Everyone knows that the favourite most common utencil of a 'pothead' is the 'waterpipe' or 'bong'.
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i was heavily addicted to weed (as you know) and my favorite method of smoking in the end was actually the simple joint. rolling joints became like an art form for me and i would obsess over rolling the perfect joint and taking the perfect hit. there was a while when i wouldn't smoke out of anything but a gravity bong but that fucked up my lungs so badly i had to go back to bowls and joints. bowls to conserve weed and joints for the best experience. to me, the joint high was the best high. it was like i would smoke a fat joint, then go sit down and not feel that high and then all of a sudden i would realize "i am fucking baked". basically joints were like what they call "creeper weed".
 
Dopamine agonist

Well it makes sense that marijuana withdrawal symptoms can occur, because it has been recently discovered that cannabis is an indirect dopamine agonist.

I am very sensitive right now due to recently quitting opiates (4 weeks ago), but when I ran out of pot two days ago I became very tense, started shaking nervously, driving recklessly, very impatient, crying, etc. As soon as I had pot, I felt fine.
 
bullshit

can u guys see whats coming? these idiots already try to convince you that cigarettes are as hard to quit as heroin (because a study says so!). So now theyre going to try and say that cannabis is just as difficult as H too. I hate study people...
 
rm-rf said:
bullshit

can u guys see whats coming? these idiots already try to convince you that cigarettes are as hard to quit as heroin (because a study says so!). So now theyre going to try and say that cannabis is just as difficult as H too. I hate study people...
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for some people cigarettes are harder to quit than heroin (remember harder to quit isn't the same as intensity of withdrawal).
 
I really don't know how people can say that smoking weed all the time is a lifestyle of sorts. It's totally common place here so maybe thats why it never was a lifestyle for me. Just about everyone here smokes the stuff (or well used) so i never felt the need to hide it or anything like i do with popping pills or when i used to sneak drink.

I could go around all day at home, hanging around somewhere or even at work stoned on weed and nobody would look down on me for it. Well a few prudes and jerks that nobody liked would because weed was illegal and they had the whole drugs are bad mantra beat into their head but these people didnt matter so it wasn't a problem. At more then a few places i worked a smoke break was a time to have a few tokes before going back to work so it was no different then cigarettes in that regard.

I never got any shit from my parents for smoking weed because although my mind was altered it wasn't altered in any significant or atleast bad way. Unlike with alcohol where i was severely altered and sometimes acted really crazy and stupid. Id just be mellowed out and relaxed when i was always smoking weed or hash.

So it was definitely not a lifestyle for me and i didnt distance myself from my stoner friends when i gave it up like i did with my drinking buddies when i gave that up. Smoking cigarettes was more of a lifestyle because i got worse cravings for them.

But it is different for everyone and ive noticed that some people do tend to centre their whole lives around getting, smoking and trying to be able to afford the stuff. They seem to get totally obsessed over it.

for some people cigarettes are harder to quit than heroin (remember harder to quit isn't the same as intensity of withdrawal).
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Ive seen this in alot of junkies and cokeheads/crackheads. They give up drugs but can never seem to give up smoking. I have gone through pretty awful opiate withdrawals and the withdrawals of giving up smoking are nowhere near as bad. But ive had alot more opiate free days in the past few years then smoke free days.
 
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i'm sorry, i'm just saying that from reading the responses to this thread you can see it varies from person to person. i definitely agree tobacco is more addictive to most people though. i apologize for being rude.
 
enoughorangejuice? said:
don't listen to anything he says about pot, he claims it ruined his life, makes his head have constant pressure and marijuana also raped his mother and beat his father. 8) the kid blames every problem he has in life on pot. he's a stupid twat. =D :p
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i'm not really familiar with this kids posts except the head pressure one.

from personal experience though, i wish i had never started smoking pot so early. I directly, and rightly so, connect pot and my panic disorder. I can't say for sure that i wouldn't have developed it without smoking, but i know when i started having panic attacks it was because i was high. i didn't know what they were at the time, and thought it was just the pot. then i had one out of the blue when i was sober. haven't been able to shake the anxiety since.

my point is, don't disrespect pot because you haven't personally had any ill effects from it.
 
i recently had to give up the bud when my pain mgmt dr started testing for it (after 3 years of it being cool). all in all, i found it pretty darn trivial to drop. although i did start smoking cigs again. i love to smoke, gotta have something :)
 
There is indeed mild discomfort/withdrawal/sleeplessness after heavy pot usage, but to me it was no real big deal.

However, in my opinion, quitting cigarettes is much, much harder. The cravings are way worse.
 
psilocybonaut said:
There is indeed mild discomfort/withdrawal/sleeplessness after heavy pot usage, but to me it was no real big deal.

However, in my opinion, quitting cigarettes is much, much harder. The cravings are way worse.
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relieved to hear i'm not the only one who doesn't find nicotine addictive, entirely without any sort of withdrawl symptoms apart from restless hands when i've nothing for them to do
Weed on the otherhand has had me fiending badly. I've never squeezed the tar out of a cigarette butt to get w hiff of nicotine but i have scraped the tar out of a downpipe and smoked it to get off.

interestingly i was told weed wasn't addictive but it gives me quite bad withdrawl yet i was told nicotine was more addictive than heroin but i gave up in an instant. Cigarette smoker for 13 years and a weed smoker for 5
 
befuddle said:
relieved to hear i'm not the only one who doesn't find nicotine addictive, entirely without any sort of withdrawl symptoms apart from restless hands when i've nothing for them to do
Weed on the otherhand has had me fiending badly. I've never squeezed the tar out of a cigarette butt to get w hiff of nicotine but i have scraped the tar out of a downpipe and smoked it to get off.

interestingly i was told weed wasn't addictive but it gives me quite bad withdrawl yet i was told nicotine was more addictive than heroin but i gave up in an instant. Cigarette smoker for 13 years and a weed smoker for 5
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yea, your story sounds a lot like mine.
 
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