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Marijuana Mental Health

yteek

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I think there needs to be a thread that goes further into marijuana and how it effects their mental health. I know theres a thread for anxiety but lets shine some light on depression, psychosis, bipolar, and other issues associated with it. If it improves your quality life and your mental health feel free to drop some input.

First thing that I'm curious about is psychosis...has anyone after heavy consumption fell into some kind of psychosis for awhile and actually stepped out of it and been able to use without any further ill effects.

It seems like some would and then some aren't so lucky.
 
Cannabis doesn't really cause schizophrenia. There's no real evidence that proves it causes it anyway. As for psychosis, it's vaguely the same sort of thing, but I think people suffering from it are more likely to use it because they seem drawn to it for whatever reason.

If you're suffering from mental health issues smoking weed isn't the best thing to do IMO but it's got to be better than drinking alcohol so if you have to get inebriated in some way, weed is probably the lesser of two evils.
 
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Rather you agree or not, there is more then enough evidence showing marijuana is capable causing psychotic reactions now is it permanent or what I don't know....but even in healthy individuals it can produce that kind of effect.

Thinking marijuana if anything is better then alcohol for one's mental health, not so true....weed fucks with my anxiety and other peoples more then alcohol would ever.
 
marijuana is psychedelic for me in that "set and setting" make huge differences in my high. if im anxious and i smoke, i only get more anxious, but if i had a hard day at work and have no worries then my high is euphoric.
 
Rather you agree or not, there is more then enough evidence showing marijuana is capable causing psychotic reactions now is it permanent or what I don't know....but even in healthy individuals it can produce that kind of effect.

Thinking marijuana if anything is better then alcohol for one's mental health, not so true....weed fucks with my anxiety and other peoples more then alcohol would ever.

I'm not even going to argue with someone that thinks cannabis is worse for your mental health alcohol.
 
I'm not saying its generally any better, its certainly not beneficial for some.

For some people...marijuana generates more negative side effects then alcohol.

Marijuana has gave me panic attacks and paranoia...while on the other hand alcohol never has.

The same goes for a lot of people.

They both can be bad for some people's mental health.
 
^ I've quoted what I said because no offence but it seems you didn't read it properly:

weed is probably the lesser of two evils.

Feeling paranoia after smoking does not in any way mean you're suffering from psychosis. It's called getting high. Smoke less, choose a different strain (preferably one leaning towards a pure indica - something like a CBD containing landrace indica like Mazar-I-Sharif would be ideal) or don't smoke at all if it's that bad.
 
I'm not saying it does, but there is such thing as marijuana induced psychosis.

I'm not going to rationalize and say weed is better...for some it isn't.

I'm not antiweed but I'm able to take look at both sides without be extremely one sided.

Like I said...for some recreational use wrecks their head in more negative way then drinking does.

For some people alcohol is just a horrible time, for some weed is not fun either.
Then there are those who are able to benefit and have a good time...without any downsides to it.

Of course drinking everyday isn't going to benefit your mental health, but honestly I don't think self medicating with weed everyday would really solve anything either in the long run.
 
You sound like you've been brainwashed by government propaganda wishing to convince everyone that the weed of today which is supposedly 25x stronger than the weed of the 60s (which it is not) is causing an epidemic of psychosis. It's rubbish.

Having a whitey does not mean you're suffering from a psychotic episode!
 
i'm 21. but i'm not going to argue with someone that doesn't realise different drugs have different positive and negative effects on different people's mental health.
 
You sound like you've been brainwashed by government propaganda wishing to convince everyone that the weed of today which is supposedly 25x stronger than the weed of the 60s (which it is not) is causing an epidemic of psychosis. It's rubbish.

Having a whitey does not mean you're suffering from a psychotic episode!
Why can't you just accept that some people suffer impaired mental health from smoking marijuana, some benefit from it.
I smoked weed for several years, every single day...was heavily into, had a lot of glass (spent thousands on just paraphernalia) and I undeniably loved it but I'm able to look at both the positive and negative now. I'm not saying its an epidemic of psychosis, but for some people it provokes anything from depression,anxiety, paranoia, to a flow blown psychotic episode.

Rather you want to call it being high or a whitey, a spade is a spade and thats basically what it is..look up drug induced psychosis(its not just a myth).

I hate when people get overly defensive and one sided when it comes to marijuana, when it reaches the point where god forbid you say anything that isn't positive....people get overly defensive.

Like I said, if it improves your mental health...feel free to post.

When others discuss the negatives, don't turn it into a never ending argument that turns into something personal.
 
Here's an interesting article you might want to read about 'skunk' potency and psychosis/schizophrenia. It addresses some of the rediculous claims made by the media that have obviously tainted the OP's opinion re cannabis:

You know when cannabis hits the news you’re in for a bit of fun, and this week’s story about cannabis causing psychosis was no exception. The paper was a systematic review and then a “meta-analysis” of the data which has already been collected, looking at whether people who smoke cannabis are subsequently more likely to have symptoms of “psychosis” or diagnoses of schizophrenia. Meta-analysis is, simply, where you gather together all of the numbers from all the studies you can find into one big spreadsheet, and do one big calculation on all of them at once, to get the most statistically powerful result possible.

Now I don’t like to carp, but it’s interesting that the Daily Mail got even these basics wrong, under their headline “Smoking just one cannabis joint raises danger of mental illness by 40%”. Firstly “the researchers, from four British universities, analysed the results of 35 studies into cannabis use from around the world. This suggested that trying cannabis only once was enough to raise the risk of schizophrenia by 41%.”

In fact they identified 175 studies which might have been relevant, but on reading them, it turned out that there were just 11 relevant papers, describing seven actual datasets. The Mail made this figure up to “35 studies” by including 24 separate papers which the authors also found on cannabis and depression, although the Mail didn’t mention depression at all.

They also said that “previous studies have shown a clear link between cannabis use in the teenage years and mental illness in later life”. They then described some of these previous studies. These were the very studies that are summarised in the new Lancet paper.

But what was left out is as interesting as what was added in. The authors were clear – as they always are – that there were problems with a black-and-white interpretation of their data, and that cause and effect could not be stated simply. For ongoing daily users, as an example, it’s difficult to be clear that cannabis is causing people to have a mental illness, because their symptoms may simply be due to being high on cannabis all the time. Perhaps they’d be fine if they were clean.

It was also interesting to see how the risk was numerically reported. The most dramatic figure is always the “relative risk increase”, or rather: “cannabis doubles the risk of psychosis”, “cannabis increases the risk by 40%”. Because schizophrenia is comparatively rare, translated this into real numbers this works out – if the figures in the paper are correct, and causality is accepted – that about 800 yearly cases of schizophrenia are attributable to cannabis. This is not belittling the risk, merely expressing it clearly.

But what’s really important, of course, is what you do with this data. Firstly, you can mispresent it, and scare people. Obviously it feels great to be so self-righteous, but people will stop taking you seriously. After all, you’re talking to a population of young people who have worked out that you routinely exaggerate the dangers of drugs, not least of all with the ridiculous “modern cannabis is 25 times stronger” fabrication so beloved by the media and politicians.

And craziest of all is the fantasy that reclassifying cannabis will stop six million people smoking it, and so eradicate those 800 extra cases of psychosis. If anything, for all drugs, increased prohibition may create market conditions where more concentrated and dangerous forms are more commercially viable. We’re talking about communities, and markets, with people in them, after all: not molecules and neuroreceptors.

http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/blah-blah-cannabis-blah-blah-blah/
 
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Maybe you should quit smoking methamphetamine. Then maybe you might not suffer from your so called psychotic symptoms.

Why can't you just accept that some people suffer impaired mental health from smoking marijuana, some benefit from it.
I smoked weed for several years, every single day...was heavily into, had a lot of glass (spent thousands on just paraphernalia) and I undeniably loved it but I'm able to look at both the positive and negative now. I'm not saying its an epidemic of psychosis, but for some people it provokes anything from depression,anxiety, paranoia, to a flow blown psychotic episode.

Rather you want to call it being high or a whitey, a spade is a spade and thats basically what it is..look up drug induced psychosis(its not just a myth).

I hate when people get overly defensive and one sided when it comes to marijuana, when it reaches the point where god forbid you say anything that isn't positive....people get overly defensive.

Like I said, if it improves your mental health...feel free to post.

When others discuss the negatives, don't turn it into a never ending argument that turns into something personal.
 
I'm not trying to say that everyone gets on with cannabis, but the way it is characterized by the media and so many others as being a leading cause of schizophrenia/psychosis is wrong in my opinion. You've not said that you're suffering from psychosis or schizophrenia - you've just alluded to the fact that you suffer from anxiety and paranoia when getting high, which is normal, so all I'm saying is if you're healthy, there's no reason to worry about cannabis being a major threat to your mental health, which is what you were saying. What I am trying to say is that it's things like alcohol which you seem to think is comparatively benign, which is more of a risk in actual fact, so if it's just anxiety/paranoia during the actual high that you're experiencing it's no reason to get worried.
 
I'm not speaking on just me..I've seen many rather healthy people suffer from lasting effects due to cannabis on their mental health.

Then I've seen many people that benefit.

Then there are those that fall into the cycle of addiction with marijuana and for some that also comes with problems of its own.
Using anything excessively, especially every day can always take its toll on your mental health.

Of course if you have anxiety already...it could definitely make it worst but then are those that swear by it for using it to cope with anxiety.
 
the OP didn't even mention cannabis potency. he didn't ask about alcohol. he is asking for people to report cannabis's effects/perceived effects from their subjective viewpoint, so maybe let's do that.

about a year ago i had OCD really badly. weed didn't really cure me of it or help with the anxiety, but it was a nice was to calm down and get relaxed and feel happy after a day of bugging out and doing all sorts of mega time consuming stressful rituals.

a few months ago i was really depressed, severely, the worst in my life so far (and i'm chronically clinically [i.e. diagnosed by a psych] depressed since the age of about 14) brought on by a summer of smashing mdma all the time, becoming homeless and splitting up with my gf. whenever i smoked weed i would get super paranoid, and come up with all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories about my friends being out to get me. after continuing to smoke weed for a month with this happening, i faced the facts that i should stop smoking weed, as it was just screwing me up more. so i gave up for 3 months, now i'm back to normal and smoking weed gets me high in a good way again. i never really understood weed paranoia/anxiety before this but now i do, so i'd advise if this starts happening to stop smoking weed and have a look at your life and any issues you may have.
 
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