Marijuana-like drug eludes scientists

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Ricky Williams' claim that marijuana helps stave off social anxiety may have scientific merit, but developing a drug that could produce similar results will take years, medical experts said Thursday.

In lab animals, higher levels of cannabinoids -- the compounds found in marijuana, and which occur naturally in the brain -- sometimes decrease anxiety.

Scientists are trying to develop a drug that would replicate this effect in humans. But even under the rosiest circumstances, it will take nearly a decade to bring the drug to market.

In the meantime, scientists recommend against smoking marijuana to relax.

''One of the reasons humans use marijuana is because it reduces anxiety,'' said Cecilia Hillard, a professor of pharmacology at the Medical College of Wisconsin.

``On the other hand, the reason most often cited for stopping using marijuana is that it causes anxiety.''

Daniele Piomelli, the scientist who is developing the cannabinoid-based drug, is more blunt.

''Cannabis is not a very good medicine,'' he said.

PROMISING TESTS

A compound Piomelli developed at the University of California at Irvine slows the breakdown of the canabinoids that occur naturally in the brain.

Tests in mice and rats suggest this may reduce anxiety without causing the memory loss, appetite increase and decrease in cognitive function associated with smoking marijuana. Human trials of the compound are slated to begin within two years, Piomelli said.

But drugs that work in mice often fail in people, and several experts said they were not aware of any studies that used marijuana to treat anxiety in humans.

Scientists following federal recommendations have studied marijuana to treat multiple sclerosis, advanced HIV and cancer-related pain. The government has approved a marijuana-like drug to treat chemotherapy-induced nausea.

It's more difficult for psychiatrists to study marijuana.

''It's kind of hard to do that research, because of the illegal nature of the drug,'' said Dianne Chambless, a University of Pennsylvania psychologist who studies social-anxiety disorder.

THERAPY

Chambless said therapy for social-anxiety disorder often helps patients relax by understanding that the whole world is not judging their every move -- which might not be the case for a star running back like Williams.

''For most people with social anxiety everybody really isn't watching you or judging you, but for people in his position, people really are,'' she said. "It's a very tough position to be in.''


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Seems like whenever they try to reduce the abuse potential of a recreational drug that has medicinal benefits, they ruin the effectiveness. Would it really kill them to just let people use what works?
 
''Cannabis is not a very good medicine,'' he said.

whata jackass.

In the meantime, scientists recommend against smoking marijuana to relax.

I am a scientist, and I reccomend you smoke weed everyday.

In lab animals, higher levels of cannabinoids -- the compounds found in marijuana, and which occur naturally in the brain -- sometimes decrease anxiety.

thats wierd, and like written a few lines below, I also think marijuana increases anxiety. Yes it is a great relaxer, but it greatly increases mental activity (while diminishing physical). After a few weeks of constant daily smoking, I always have to take a break for a week or two, just because I feel it builds up a lot of anxiety. I dont even like smoking with a large crowd of people, or people im not very familiar with. I dont really consider herb to be a social drug, just something I chill out with my self, my girl, or my best friends. Id def not reccoment the average middle aged working class toolbox to start smoking pot to relax, herb is just for us scientists. Thats why scientists dont want you smoking it!!!

However, its probably better medicine than what the psychopharmecuital industry has to offer.


On a side note,

but developing a drug that could produce similar results will take years

Why do they always do this? Its like, Scientists have discovered that cannibanoids in marijuana destroy tumor cells! However it will take decades to replicate this effectiveness with pharmecutical medicine. Or even, Marijuana has been proven to help AIDS and cancer patients survive much longer, and sometimes live 'normal' lives by increasing appetite amongst they myriad of other medicinal wonders it has, however scientists have failed to create a drug that has the same effect; etc etc - WHY do they always have to "create a drug that can reproduce the effects?!?!?!" God gave us this medical wonder plant, and the high it produces is unmatched! Dont go fucking reinventing a wheel that God himself created. Smoke bud.




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Seems like whenever they try to reduce the abuse potential of a recreational drug that has medicinal benefits, they ruin the effectiveness. Would it really kill them to just let people use what works?

Looks like you got to the same point I was trying to make a few moments earlier man.
 
My social anxiety gets real bad from smoking too much at once and gets worse if I smoke daily. But it does help me relax a lot if I smoke enough to get a good buzz, but not stoned.
 
I don't think anxiety is directly stimulated by consuming cannabis. It's just amplified emotion/thoughts that the user creates. I get zero paranoia/anxiety, and I would much rather meet new people stoned than sober.
 
thanks the wood!

ok finally someone with a brain! your great! really! i have the same exact views as you do!
I smoke prob everyday and it honestly makes me more smart! like at my job or wherever! and when i don't smoke it, i can tell a difference, i don't like how i feel when im not high! but its allot easier to quit unlike speed or coke or whatever else! i don't think i will ever quit though (ok when i get pregnent one day) but until then ,,,i will smoke no matter what ever day!! thanks for your input though, i really agree!
not that my opinion means much but still!
thanks=D
 
people who get "smart" while using marijuana are few and far between, many get the illusion that they are smart though..
 
I think this is bullshit; that cannabinoids decrease social anxiety. Me, and countless other bluelighters get a lot more anxiety when we smoke pot then when we are sober. Many of those who don't get anxiety find they become less talkative. Pot increases dopamine which increases NA that increases anxiety... fuck them scientists.
 
exactly.... different things have different effects on different ppl
i smoke everyday and never get anxiety, yet my old smoking partner had to quit BECAUSE of anxiety that the dope was making worse

all it does is magnify or intensify your own personal characterisitcs in my view.... ppl who are prone to worrying about things when sober i find become even more panicky when stoned, while lazy ppl like myself relax even more when stoned

i really dont think ricky williams should be the spokesperson for this theory tho lol, due to his past hes not really taken seriously by mainstream america
 
This is definitely a varying issue for people. I personally found smoking to be very relaxing in the beginning, especially considering the anxiety problems I had. However, 4 years of heavy smoking have brought me to the point that I get crippling waves of anxiety that completely removes me from most situations (whether high or sober). I've decided to [try to] quit smoking weed as I'm almost certain that is what has caused the outrageous increase in anxiety levels.

Just my opinion...late.
 
It's BASED on cannabinoids. THC may cause anxiety, but maybe this drug is based on one of the lesser of the 492 or so (my DARE teacher said 1100 when it turns to smoke, heat produces more) cannabinoids, that is only present in trace amounts/you barely feel.

:)
 
this is probably completely irrelevant, and im certainly not speaking for anyone else on here, but ive noticed that most of the people I know that have increased paranoia/anxiety have also delved deeply into more powerful psychedellic drugs - LSD, Mushrooms, 2C-XX, various other tryptamines, ketamine, etc (and by delved, i surely dont mean experimented a few times). I think once your "doors," to quote Huxley, have been opened widely enough, even if you have stopped using psychedellics for years, mild hints of their aftermath leak back into your psyche when you smoke some potent ganj. Basically what im trying to suggest is that people who have done quite a lot of psychedellic drugs seem to have a greater tendency to be prone to paranoia/anxiety when they smoke marijuana. Ive met many a smoker who recieves these negative effects whom hasnt used any other drugs, but the aformentioned trait(s) seem prevelant in the more 'less socially apt' smokers.

I also think that the increased level of mental activity has alot to do with anxiety. Someone may be deep enough in thought that simple real world activities, such as small talk or other social interactions, become a great task - thus making the individual under the influence feel as though he/she is getting too much unwanted attention, thus increased anxiety.

And to close, id like to add that im out of herb, and I pulled some muscles in my back. If the medicinal practices of this world had any sense, i could go get a g13 script and smoke my pain away. Alas, I am left with naught but a paperclip and some resinated glass...


This is definitely a varying issue for people. I personally found smoking to be very relaxing in the beginning, especially considering the anxiety problems I had. However, 4 years of heavy smoking have brought me to the point that I get crippling waves of anxiety that completely removes me from most situations (whether high or sober). I've decided to [try to] quit smoking weed as I'm almost certain that is what has caused the outrageous increase in anxiety levels.

stop smoking for a minimum of a month, maybe even more. If the marijuana is the cause of this, trust me it will dissapear. Also during that month, take up some cardiovascular exersizes and maintain a healthy diet and sleeping pattern - IMO thats the number one way to eliminate anxiety.
 
i agree with everyone

I can say that I agree with everyone here! When I first started smoking I was just like that, but the more I smoked through out the years it just got to be that much more great! and yeah I think I am litlte more smart at work, but I might not be! donbt know and hoenstly dont care! atleast i am a happy girl!LOL, anywho
to wood, i hate that you are out! specially when you are in pain! isnt that how it always works!!! as soon as we really need it WE RUN OUT8(
 
SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING

YEAH YOU CAN SEE WHAT WEED DOES TO MY SPELLING,,lol, NO REALLY I WAS TRYIN TO TYPE REALLY FAST AND MESSED UP MY WHOLE RESPONSE! ANYWAY SORRY=D
 
Hmmm.... this police-state of a country I'm living in is the source of MY anxiety.

Maybe what they mean is that since being arrested and incarcerated can cause high amounts of anxiety, and smoking marijuana can get you arrested and incarcerated, then smoking marijuana can cause high amounts of anxiety. See, it's kind of like the whole "if a=b and b=c, then a=c" scenario.

8)

Church
 
aye. If we all lived in holland we'd all be yucking it the fuck up instead of deadbolting our doors on a saturday afteroon.
 
"In the meantime, scientists recommend against smoking marijuana to relax."

why would they endorse something that they currently can't make money from ?
enter the designer drug*.

"A compound Piomelli developed at the University of California at Irvine slows the breakdown of the canabinoids that occur naturally in the brain. Tests in mice and rats suggest this may reduce anxiety without causing the memory loss, appetite increase and decrease in cognitive function associated with smoking marijuana"

receiving pleasure via means that do not contribute to a capitalist consumerist society, directly or indirectly, is one of the reasons the drug war exists. by creating a designer drug they are essentially removing the pleasurable effects in order to meet certain requirements needed to attain legal status.

*designer drug
: a synthetic version of a controlled substance (as heroin) that is produced with a slightly altered molecular structure to avoid having it classified as an illicit drug - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
 
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THE WOOD said:

I am a scientist, and I reccomend you smoke weed everyday.



Why do they always do this? Its like, Scientists have discovered that cannibanoids in marijuana destroy tumor cells! However it will take decades to replicate this effectiveness with pharmecutical medicine. Or even, Marijuana has been proven to help AIDS and cancer patients survive much longer, and sometimes live 'normal' lives by increasing appetite amongst they myriad of other medicinal wonders it has, however scientists have failed to create a drug that has the same effect; etc etc - WHY do they always have to "create a drug that can reproduce the effects?!?!?!" God gave us this medical wonder plant, and the high it produces is unmatched! Dont go fucking reinventing a wheel that God himself created. Smoke bud.

This is an absoulutely beautiful point. If we truly live in a democracy, then we (the people) should be able to change the laws of OUR land. So if the most qualified people in our society, along with hundreds of thousands of other civilians, acknowledge that there ARE IN FACT many possitive things that come from marijuana that most likely outweigh the negative, then what the hell is keeping us from legalizing this shit? It seems like if EVERYONE that thinks it should be legalized, including scientists, could come together and put together some sort of informative and factual campaign that legitimately argues in favor of the legalization marijuana, then maybe we could make a difference and maybe get closer to legalizing it.

Also, and I know I'm not the only one that realizes this, the government would benefit tremendously from the legalization of marijuana. They would not have to spend so much on fighting it, and they would obviously get all kinds of taxes from it, not to mention the harvesting, manufacturing and sales of it would boost the economy and create millions of <A TITLE="Click for more information about job" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||job|AA1VDw">job</A>s. And also, the overall moral (did I spell that right?) of the people in this country would go up which could have numerous possitive effects on society and the economy.

One more little thing I find interesting... Last year when I was a senior in High School, they had everyone read this little article on the 'marijuana problem' in this country. We then had to make a chart which listed 5 ways to solve the problem, and then 5 categories that each solution would be evalutated on (e.g. cost, time, effectiveness, public approval etc.) It turns out that about 90% of the kids that did this little activity ended up with results that showed legalizing marijuana would be the most efficient way to solve the so called 'problem' in every category, and I went to a pretty damn big highschool.

Thanks for reading my shit! this is only my 2nd real post on here.

Peace to ALL!!!
 
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