Belisarius
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Judging by the bad trip I had last night, I'd call MJ a psychedelic any day. Closed-eye visuals, feelings of movement, the works. Then again, I very rarely smoke.
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Marijuana is a Psychedelic, is it not?
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drug_mentor
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I have been stoned literally hundreds of times and out of these only a handful did i experience things i would describe as psychadelic, and the majority of people i know that smoke are the same. i would not go so far as to say it is NOT psychadelic but (to me atleast) it certainly is much more of a depressant. i do believe, however, that the intense feelings marijuana can cause is grossly underestimated by alot of people. There is certainly a psychadelic like undertone to the effects like noticing things in music u didnt before and stuff like that but on a whole its depressant effects are much more pronounced.
pr0ficient
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I definitly feel the most psychadelic effect of marijuana when I eat a large amount of it. It can make me feel like I'm coming up on acid or shrooms, right before you'd usually start getting visuals...and it just stays at that level until the THC wears off.
i would agree, but you definitley dont trip from it, but there are some hallucinogenic qualities, espescially if you smoke alot of really good weed. i remeber the first time i smoked a haze (strawberry haze) i saw a record in the air and i was straching it.
I made a firecracker the other day with .75 of a gram and I was tripping for sure.
The reason why, time was going SLOWER than even smoking, slower like acid. My friend knocked on my window and i flipped out even though I knew he was coming over, it was quite a bit more intense than the usual smokin. I guess it's cause I'm not used to whatever it does in the metabolism since I'd never eaten weed before.
The reason why, time was going SLOWER than even smoking, slower like acid. My friend knocked on my window and i flipped out even though I knew he was coming over, it was quite a bit more intense than the usual smokin. I guess it's cause I'm not used to whatever it does in the metabolism since I'd never eaten weed before.
qwe
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^what's a firecracker?
qwe
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i doskahead17 said:
Blowmonkey
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Cannabis does not increase blood pressure, it lowers it due to relaxation of the arteries.
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Blowmonkey said:
I like to refer to this as "training" your heart
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Cannabis surely is a psychedelic. I don't need to smoke much to get really weird and racing thoughts that I normally find more or less annoying. And I often hear aural hallucinations and see something moving near me.
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Psychedelic Experience
A. Alterations in thinking.
Subjective disturbances in concentration, attention, memory, and judgment represent common findings. Archaic modes of thought (primary-process thought) predominate, and reality testing seems impaired to varying degrees. The distinction between cause and effect becomes blurred, and ambivalence may be pronounced whereby incongruities or opposites may coexist without any (psycho)logical conflict...
B. Disturbed time sense.
Sense of time and chronology become greatly altered. Subjective feelings of timelessness, time coming to a standstill, the acceleration or slowing of time, and so on, are common. Time may also seem of infinite or infinitesimal duration.
C. Loss of control.
As a person enters or is in an ASC, he often experiences fears of losing his grip on reality and losing his self-control. During the induction phase, he may actively try to resist experiencing the ASC...while in other instances he may actually welcome relinquishing his volition and giving in to the experience.
D. Change in emotional expression.
With the diminution of conscious control or inhibitions, there is often a marked change in emotional expression. Sudden and unexpected displays of more primitive and intense emotion than shown during normal, waking consciousness may appear. Emotional extremes, from ecstasy and orgiastic equivalents to profound fear and depression, commonly occur...
E. Body image change.
A wide array of distortions in body image frequently occur in ASCs. There is also a common propensity for individuals to experience a profound sense of depersonalization, a schism between body and mind, feelings of derealization, or a dissolution of boundaries between self and others, the world, or universe. There are also some other common features which might be grouped under this heading. Not only may various parts of the body appear or feel shrunken, enlarged, distorted, heavy, weightless, disconnected, strange, or funny, but spontaneous experiences of dizziness, blurring of vision, weakness, numbness, tingling, and analgesia are likewise encountered.
F. Perceptual distortions.
Common to most ASCs is the presence of perceptual aberrations, including hallucinations, pseudohallucinations, increased visual imagery, subjectively felt hyperacuteness of perception, and illusions of every variety. The content of these perceptual aberrations may be determined by cultural, group, individual, or neurophysiological factors and represent either wish-fulfillment fantasies, the expression of basic fears or conflicts, or simply phenomena of little dynamic import, such as hallucinations of light, color, geometrical patterns, or shapes. In some ASCs, such as those produced by psychedelic drugs, marihuana, or mystical contemplation, synesthesias may appear whereby one form of sensory experience is translated into another form. For example, persons may report seeing or feeling sounds or being able to taste what they see.
G. Change in meaning or significance.
After observing and reading descriptions of a wide variety of ASCs induced by different agents or maneuvers, I have become very impressed with the predilection of persons in these states to attach an increased meaning or significance to their subjective experiences, ideas, or perceptions. At times, it appears as though the person is undergoing an attenuated "eureka" experience during which feelings of profound insight, illumination, and truth frequently occur.
H. Sense of the ineffable.
Most often, because of the uniqueness of the subjective experience associated with certain ASCs (e.g., transcendental, aesthetic, creative, psychotic, and mystical states), persons claim a certain ineptness or inability to communicate the nature or essence of the experience to someone who has not undergone a similar experience.
I. Feelings of rejuvenation.
...On emerging from certain profound alterations of consciousness (e.g., psychedelic experiences, ...hypnosis, religious conversion, transcendental and mystical states), ...many persons claim to experience a new sense of hope, rejuvenation, renaissance, or rebirth.
J. Hypersuggestibility.
…The increased susceptibility and propensity of persons uncritically to accept and/or automatically to respond to specific statements...or nonspecific cues (i.e., cultural or group expectations for certain types of behavior or subjective feelings). Hypersuggestibility will also refer to the increased tendency of a person to misperceive or misinterpret various stimuli or situations based either on his inner fears or wishes.
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i definately experience these things when i smoke up
A. Alterations in thinking.
Subjective disturbances in concentration, attention, memory, and judgment represent common findings. Archaic modes of thought (primary-process thought) predominate, and reality testing seems impaired to varying degrees. The distinction between cause and effect becomes blurred, and ambivalence may be pronounced whereby incongruities or opposites may coexist without any (psycho)logical conflict...
B. Disturbed time sense.
Sense of time and chronology become greatly altered. Subjective feelings of timelessness, time coming to a standstill, the acceleration or slowing of time, and so on, are common. Time may also seem of infinite or infinitesimal duration.
C. Loss of control.
As a person enters or is in an ASC, he often experiences fears of losing his grip on reality and losing his self-control. During the induction phase, he may actively try to resist experiencing the ASC...while in other instances he may actually welcome relinquishing his volition and giving in to the experience.
D. Change in emotional expression.
With the diminution of conscious control or inhibitions, there is often a marked change in emotional expression. Sudden and unexpected displays of more primitive and intense emotion than shown during normal, waking consciousness may appear. Emotional extremes, from ecstasy and orgiastic equivalents to profound fear and depression, commonly occur...
E. Body image change.
A wide array of distortions in body image frequently occur in ASCs. There is also a common propensity for individuals to experience a profound sense of depersonalization, a schism between body and mind, feelings of derealization, or a dissolution of boundaries between self and others, the world, or universe. There are also some other common features which might be grouped under this heading. Not only may various parts of the body appear or feel shrunken, enlarged, distorted, heavy, weightless, disconnected, strange, or funny, but spontaneous experiences of dizziness, blurring of vision, weakness, numbness, tingling, and analgesia are likewise encountered.
F. Perceptual distortions.
Common to most ASCs is the presence of perceptual aberrations, including hallucinations, pseudohallucinations, increased visual imagery, subjectively felt hyperacuteness of perception, and illusions of every variety. The content of these perceptual aberrations may be determined by cultural, group, individual, or neurophysiological factors and represent either wish-fulfillment fantasies, the expression of basic fears or conflicts, or simply phenomena of little dynamic import, such as hallucinations of light, color, geometrical patterns, or shapes. In some ASCs, such as those produced by psychedelic drugs, marihuana, or mystical contemplation, synesthesias may appear whereby one form of sensory experience is translated into another form. For example, persons may report seeing or feeling sounds or being able to taste what they see.
G. Change in meaning or significance.
After observing and reading descriptions of a wide variety of ASCs induced by different agents or maneuvers, I have become very impressed with the predilection of persons in these states to attach an increased meaning or significance to their subjective experiences, ideas, or perceptions. At times, it appears as though the person is undergoing an attenuated "eureka" experience during which feelings of profound insight, illumination, and truth frequently occur.
H. Sense of the ineffable.
Most often, because of the uniqueness of the subjective experience associated with certain ASCs (e.g., transcendental, aesthetic, creative, psychotic, and mystical states), persons claim a certain ineptness or inability to communicate the nature or essence of the experience to someone who has not undergone a similar experience.
I. Feelings of rejuvenation.
...On emerging from certain profound alterations of consciousness (e.g., psychedelic experiences, ...hypnosis, religious conversion, transcendental and mystical states), ...many persons claim to experience a new sense of hope, rejuvenation, renaissance, or rebirth.
J. Hypersuggestibility.
…The increased susceptibility and propensity of persons uncritically to accept and/or automatically to respond to specific statements...or nonspecific cues (i.e., cultural or group expectations for certain types of behavior or subjective feelings). Hypersuggestibility will also refer to the increased tendency of a person to misperceive or misinterpret various stimuli or situations based either on his inner fears or wishes.
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i definately experience these things when i smoke up
Even if you argue that marijuana isnt a halluginogen, you absolutely cannot say that it doesnt effect hallucinations of other drugs. Pot is the most synergistic substance ever, i believe. I've had the most insane visuals ever on DOI and MARIJUANA. Ten times better with pot.
Chicago66
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ive smoked to the point where it felt EXACTLY like i was on a low level shroom trip, so i would be a liar if i said i didnt believe it was a hallucinogen.
But on a side note, i need very high doses of it in order to get what i would qualify as a psychedelic experience.
But on a side note, i need very high doses of it in order to get what i would qualify as a psychedelic experience.
dirmaster0
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8) Course its a psychedelic...I'd say Sativa more so than Indica...a concentraited head high will surely be noticed as being a sort of trip...
Shrooms and bud are a pretty nice trip its self..same with 2CI and bud..but you cant really feel the bud high till after youve came down quite a bit...all the same...very much a psychedelic
Shrooms and bud are a pretty nice trip its self..same with 2CI and bud..but you cant really feel the bud high till after youve came down quite a bit...all the same...very much a psychedelic
