marijuana experienced - infinity on the stairs

[cannabis sativa]

i'm normally a daily cannabis user but every now and then i have experiences that blow my mind.

in the days leading up to the experience i had been sick and had taken off from smoking so my tolerance was lower than usual. also i happened to have some very potent weed and smoking in new locatons always makes my experiences more intense. i'll try to keep it breif because there's really only one part of the experience that i feel i learned from.

the experience:

i went outside and smoked a large joint of chronic, taking huge hits. i became very high. i sat down on some steps and just listened to the sounds of nature. after a while i decided to go back to my room but i had to clime 3 flights of stairs. as i was the climbing the stairs i began to experience an increase in the tachycardia i get from high doses of cannabis so i decided to sit down and rest a bit so my heart would slow down. i curled up on of the stairs and i began to notice how altered my perception was. my body felt completely one with its environment and had no attachment to me and my vision no longer appeared external. i began thining about infinity. i thought about how there were so many people but they all look different and basically there are an infinite number of ways a person could look. i felt like all that existed was just infinity experiencing and reexperiencing itself. everything i saw was just a tiny slice of infinity. then i began to question who i was and instantly i came to the conclusion that i was infinity (it seemed very obvious at the time). in other words i was infinity experiencing itself and nothing existed but me. i became very lonely and i thought my mom and my girlfriend for comfort but from my point of view they were just part of me. i could only see myself in them and i realized i always had been and always would be completely alone. i also thought about God and i decided that God (infinity) only exists so long as you percieve yourself to be an individual person. if you realize the truth and see the connectness of everything , then you percieve yourself as infinity and God no longer exists because only you exist. everyone's true self is infinity. everyone is God, we just misidentify ourselves with our bodies for some reason. any thoughts?

 

[lyXw33d]

i've always wanted to experience that, but never have (i've had experienced close to this, but usually when you're high you think you're making sense and getting a revelation and then the next day your realize your concept was vague/stupid/pointless)

but in this case looks like you had an awesome time and opened up your mind....

and instantly i came to the conclusion that i was infinity (it seemed very obvious at the time). in other words i was infinity experiencing itself and nothing existed but me.

somewhat familiar

 

[punktuality]

Love your thoughts on infinity....so close to some of my own experiences.

I never used to get huge mindfucks like that on pot but once i started taking lsd i found that pot became more potent.... I think pot is a more powerfull psych than most people give it credit for....sometimes it is just hard to breakthrough to that higher level which can be very intense and trip-like.

Finding both one-ness and discomfort in the infinte world is also quite familiar. It is so obvious and natural but at the same time a little unnerving. I just think about the fact that things that i like and things that I dislike happen in the everyday world....starring into infinity as you tend to do on some drugs is just a reflection of how the world is.

peace

 

[qwe]

i think, you shouldnt take these pot thoughts literally, but use them to help you understand your mind and your relation to reality (dont use them to directly understand "reality" but understand your own universe)

"vision no longer appeared external"
i know what you mean... your mind relates more to the external world... so its like your vision is no longer made up of what is there, but what is there and how it affects parts of your mind? does that make sense? its like being a toddler i think
"so many people but they all look different and basically there are an infinite number of ways a person could look"
faces in reality are actually very similar, but we spend a lot of pattern recognition power on faces because we become familiar with so many... faces "change" as you get to know the person, faces can be mean angry ugly pretty warm etc... our view of faces is very subjective
"i was infinity"
you are your universe
any universe is infinite (or feels that way)
"we just misidentify ourselves with our bodies"
its very practical to do so... practicality has had us leave our subjective but beautiful/young perspectives

well please respond to my thoughts, hopefully i helped somehow

 

[cannabis sativa]

i think, you shouldnt take these pot thoughts literally, but use them to help you understand your mind and your relation to reality (dont use them to directly understand "reality" but understand your own universe)

i know exactly what you mean. i've also come to the conclusion that my point of reference for understanding the universe is completely arbitrary. in other words the way i percieve when i'm high is no more or less correct than the way i percieve when sober. however by observing the differences between the two i can gain a better understanding of what underlies these 2 states of mind.

"vision no longer appeared external"
i know what you mean... your mind relates more to the external world... so its like your vision is no longer made up of what is there, but what is there and how it affects parts of your mind? does that make sense? its like being a toddler i think

could you explain what you mean a little more? it feels like my vision is part of my mind.

"so many people but they all look different and basically there are an infinite number of ways a person could look"
faces in reality are actually very similar, but we spend a lot of pattern recognition power on faces because we become familiar with so many... faces "change" as you get to know the person, faces can be mean angry ugly pretty warm etc... our view of faces is very subjective

yes, i'm aware that a large part of the brain is dedicated to recognizing and faces . i believe the brain makes a caricature out of the people we see to remember them by. we remember each faces distingishing features.

"i was infinity"
you are your universe
any universe is infinite (or feels that way)
"we just misidentify ourselves with our bodies"
its very practical to do so... practicality has had us leave our subjective but beautiful/young perspectives

well please respond to my thoughts, hopefully i helped somehow

i dont like to think of myself as the universe because the word universe automatically brings up ideas relating to my errored perception of the universe. in other words i use the word universe to mean the world i experience through my senses. i believe that there is a level of pure being and no sense experience that is present all the time.

 

[asmodeus256]

My experience with cannibus, detailed HERE , is very similar.

I experienced the infinite, and then came back down to being a 1 amongst a sea of 1s and 0s.

 

[throwitallaway]

Cannabis can be very strong. Alot of people do underestimate it.

 

[qwe]

i think the reason its not psychedelic for many people is 1. they may not have taken psychedelics to affect their high, 2. they dont think about philosophical issues as often (i think if you do, your very likely to get a meaningful trip), and 3. i think most ppl get high too often, so getting a lot of meaningful highs isnt as easy, it becomes more normal... but to each his own; ive found mine are more meaningful when i moderate myself (and more enjoyable... if i keep getting high all day for a few days, i can experience intense pain through all of my body parts)

you asked me to explain what i meant here--
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"vision no longer appeared external"
i know what you mean... your mind relates more to the external world... so its like your vision is no longer made up of what is there, but what is there and how it affects parts of your mind? does that make sense? its like being a toddler i think
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okay ill get at it froma different angle
i think that experiences determine the system that interprets the world... when you were a child, you had much less experiences to draw from, so each experience was 1. more subjective, 2. more impacting (just like tripping, which, dissolving much of the ego, creates a similar state where the consious mind has less experiences to draw from and you are a kid again) thats my theory

so therefore mental visualizing and interpreting becomes simpler and less characteristic of hte real world (less useful) but also more true to the basis of the mind's interpretation system, only using the most powerful experiences to determine the logic system instead of almost all taht are deemed useful (or perhaps at random... i havent tripped hard but during some trips i felt like i was thinking like another person or being might..on a harder trip i think i might actually "become" another person)

so tahts my theory on becoming a child again.. the ego being unconstructed, you regress to a state of mind similar to that before your ego was as constructed as it is now; there is a psychological theory--state specific memory-- that would help my view, at least for me, because it says that when your in a specific state of mind, memories from that same state of mind from other times are much easier to arise... this would explain why i get tons of childhood memories popping up after any high or trip (is this normal or abnormal? does it happen to you?) and the memories usually are in some way related (or seem to be) to a thought or image i see that brings them up

 

[psychonaut65]

i too am a daily pot smoker; however, i like to smoke it at nite just before i go to bed, the reason for which i do this this is because just before i got to bed i naturally enter a state of peace without interuption: people, places and almost everything seems very distant to me at that time. The introspective analysis i get from tripping re-occurs when i smoke dope at night, i get some funky auditory hallucinations usually as well. Dope can be strong when used in the right circumstances.

peace

 

[qwe]

"in other words i was infinity experiencing itself and nothing existed but me. i became very lonely and i thought my mom and my girlfriend for comfort but from my point of view they were just part of me. i could only see myself in them and i realized i always had been and always would be completely alone. "

your mind failed to think it through thoroughly

your mom and your girlfriend have their own infinite universe... your universe has a relationship with theirs.. you are not so lonely, the lonliness must be some sort of conceptual blockage u had when thinking about them as only a part of you? they have their own universe just as complex as yours

 

[cannabis sativa]

i agree very much with what you said about it being like perceiving like a child, i've often thought about that myself. i feel like sometimes i'm able to percieve things with the complete innocence of a child.

your mom and your girlfriend have their own infinite universe... your universe has a relationship with theirs.. you are not so lonely, the lonliness must be some sort of conceptual blockage u had when thinking about them as only a part of you? they have their own universe just as complex as yours

no because the being in them is the same being in me. an infinite amount of experiences are possible but there is only one experiencer.