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March Madness is among us

KPZ said:
I will get my bracket in a bit later on. I am going to have to pick Kentucky to win it all

I really dont see too many upsets happening this year, but I guess you never do. That's what makes this the best tournament in all of sports.
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I did not see many upsets this year myself, but should of known better. Cause the underdogs have turned this tournament upside down. Some great games have been played. Still in shock Kansas lost. Also Cornell still smashing teams, what fun even knowing my bracket is done.
 
I agree, I could never have imagined this many upsets. I'm excited that Kansas lost, because it could set up a Evan Turner/John Wall match-up. I hate it however it gives my boss's team Mich. State a chance to make it to the final four. I never would have picked them past the 2nd round. But here they are. I'm just hoping Duke loses.
 
Rusty Cage said:
I agree, I could never have imagined this many upsets. I'm excited that Kansas lost, because it could set up a Evan Turner/John Wall match-up. I hate it however it gives my boss's team Mich. State a chance to make it to the final four. I never would have picked them past the 2nd round. But here they are. I'm just hoping Duke loses.
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Without Kalin Lucas, they wont get too much further.
 
So does this tournament prove without question that ESPN and people who ESPN says are experts are morons?
Didn't they shove it down our throats that the Big East was the best conference in basketball? They also told us that Purdue was awful without Hummell.
Well the Big East only has 2 teams left. Purdue is still playing.
 
smotpoker said:
So does this tournament prove without question that ESPN and people who ESPN says are experts are morons?
Didn't they shove it down our throats that the Big East was the best conference in basketball? They also told us that Purdue was awful without Hummell.
Well the Big East only has 2 teams left. Purdue is still playing.
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Hopefully the tournament committee gets it through their thick heads that mid-majors should get more bids (Although I'm sure Bill Self would disagree somewhat! =D). Outside of Syracuse, WVU and uh....ok, maybe Georgetown (usually, d'oh), who else in the Big East wins games in March? The answer: none of them. On paper the BE looked good but when it gets to playing the games, they failed. And I think Purdue is just overachieving at the moment but it sure is funny when ESPN et al have to eat crow though.
 
smotpoker said:
So does this tournament prove without question that ESPN and people who ESPN says are experts are morons?
Didn't they shove it down our throats that the Big East was the best conference in basketball? They also told us that Purdue was awful without Hummell.
Well the Big East only has 2 teams left. Purdue is still playing.
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I disagree with you, Purdue got their asses handed to them without Hummel at the end of the season. It is most amazing that they have gone as far as they have without him. Maybe it was an adjustment period for the rest of the team, maybe they played above themselves the first two games... who knows, but one can only go by what they've seen so far.

Also if you listened to most analysts they all said that Villanova was a bad seed, and they picked the rest ('cept G'town... that one blew everyone away) either 1 and done or less. The Big East also had teams that played Tough out of conference schedules, plus having a rather tough conference as well.

Besides isn't Kansas gone? Did you pick No. Iowa over them? I doubt you're one of the very few who did. These guys look at how a team is playing, and pick accordingly, teams have bad nights, again ex: Kansas. Do you think Purdue is going to get past Duke? I'd bet a months pay that they don't. However Duke could go out cold, and get beat like a drum (which I would be excited about don't get me wrong). Odds are though, Purdue is gonna get beat like a redheaded stepchild caught stealing Gummi bears. Same with a lot of these other cinderella sweet 16 teams. Noone in their right mind picks St. Mary's to the sweet 16, or Cornell, or No. Iowa. Hell even TN wasn't supposed to make it to the sweet 16, and they've been ranked in the top 15 all season long.

If every game was played on paper then there would be no upsets. This is why they play the games. I also believe that there would have been less upsets if seeds had been handed out correctly. ND should never have been a 6 seed, Villanova should never have been a 2 seed, and Wash. should never have been an 11. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, but they didn't. This is what we got right now. I guess if you're a Purdue fan, be happy they made it this far. But don't blame the sports analysts for going on past performances, that's all they have to go on.
 
Rusty Cage said:
Maybe it was an adjustment period for the rest of the team, maybe they played above themselves the first two games... who knows, but one can only go by what they've seen so far.


Or maybe Purdue is much better than the experts tell us. Look, Hummel is a big loss for that team, but it's not as if they are playing freshman at Purdue. Their lineup has a lot of experience on it. And they really didn't play too bad without Hummel starting going 4-2.
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No, but going into the tournament they were 2-2, and it wasn't like the games they won were against any true contestant. I mean seriously Penn St. and Indiana? We aren't talking about teams on an upswing either, these are two painfully bad teams. Indiana went 10-21 and Penn St. went 11-20. And they almost lost to Penn St. If they had lost to either of those two teams, Purdue would have been given a much lower seed, and would probably have already exited the tournament. So lets throw those two gimmies out the window and say that going into the tournament Purdue was 0-2. Realistically speaking, now without Hummel Purdue has beat 2 good teams, and have surprised a lot of people. I never saw them getting to where they are now, and most other people didn't either. But to say that the analysts were wrong for not predicting Purdue to at least achieve the success they have already achieved well it's like calling A-A all in with 2-7 os pre-flop. Winning and then saying see I told you I had the better hand, when clearly starting off you didn't.
 
I think you forgot about their wins at Minnesota (an ncaa tourny team) on Feb. 24th and the win against Northwestern (nit team) on March 12th.

That equals 4-2 overall without Humell starting. not 2-2 like you claim.

but I didn't really think my statement would turn into a big arguement.

all i was trying to say was i think it's funny that guys who get paid to analyze every team and game and give us their "expert" picks are no better at it than you or me.

Let's not turn this into a big thing.

The tournament has been the most exciting I can ever remember and I have a feeling we're gonna see more shocking results before it's all said and done. We can at least agree on that right man?
 
I've been watching this year's tournament, mostly out of nostalgia.

The format is PHENOMENAL, it's packaged well, so that even casual basketball fans get excited (office pools, and rooting for alma maters).

With that said, something I just CANNOT get over is that with the way things have shaken out over the past two decades (Garnett, Kobe, and then just about every great 17-19 year old jumped into the NBA, whereas in the '80's nearly EVERYONE - EVEN college greats like Patrick Ewing and Ralph Sampson stayed for all four years).

So between less cohesion (teams don't get to jell over the course of 3-4 seasons like they used to) and with a SHITLOAD of talent lost to the NBA, sadly, the product just ain't what it used to be.

I'll still watch it, and I'll still enjoy it - but to nowhere NEAR the degree in which I LOVED it back in the glory days of Len Bias, Chris Mullin, MJ, Phi Slamma Jamma, David Thompson, Christian Laettner, The Running Rebels, and, of course, Magic & Larry. <3
 
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