Mandatory abortion proposed in Holland

[MethTheChef]

MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Mandatory abortion
proposed in Holland
Official calls for debate to deal
with issue of unwanted children
Posted: February 21, 2006
11:44 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Marianne van den Anker
A health official in the Netherlands has called for a debate on the idea of forced abortion and contraception to deal with what she sees as a crisis of unwanted children.

Alderman Marianne van den Anker of the Leefbaar Rotterdam Party wants specifically to target communities of Antilleans and Arubans where she sees the biggest problems of unwanted children.

Her comments have stirred protest by a health foundation working with those communities in Rotterdam. The group, which called the comments degrading, is asking Mayor Ivo Opstelten and other politicians to distance themselves from Van den Anker's views.

Van den Anker is a mother of two children and the official in charge of Rotterdam's health and security portfolios.

In an interview in a newspaper Saturday, she said she had tried everything to prevent child abuse.

"I fail, I fail," she told the interviewer as she outlined her controversial idea for a debate on compulsory abortion and contraception.

The target groups for her program are Antillean teenage mothers; drug addicts and people with mental handicaps, she said, according to a report in Expatica.

According to the report, Van den Anker said children from these groups run an "unacceptable risk" of growing up without love and with "violence, neglect, mistreatment and sexual abuse."

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[kittyinthedark]

I believe that forced contraception is acceptable in cases where women are in clearly no position to raise a child. In fact, I have always held the position that contraception for poor or drug addicted women should be free if not mandatory. Forced abortion, however, I take issue with. In instances of unwanted pregnancy, I believe that women in those circumstances should be able to have the option of either a free abortion or giving the child up for adoption.

 

[exarkann]

^ agreed. we need to take responsibility for our species.

 

[Pander Bear]

I'd wager that most people who ever lived were the result of an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy.

 

[IAmJacksUserName]

I support a woman's right to choose. Therefore, I am strongly opposed to this idea. Seriously, this really is a matter of "keep your laws off of my body." What are they to do about women who are members of religious groups who oppose abortion and contraception? Religious persecution, anyone?

 

[luke_dm5]

I support forced sterilisation and contraception only, not terminations.

 

[michael]

WND is probably the worst source on earth for anything regarding abortion or contraception.

 

[Zero the hero]

I support forced sterilisation and contraception only, not terminations.

Yeah, too bad "forced sterilizations" weren't law when your mum concieved...

 

[psychetool]

I support forced sterilisation and contraception only, not terminations.

Ditto.

 

[DigitalDuality]

i can't stand for anything "forced".

There are days i see moron parent who never graduated high school who has 7 kids and is an uncontrollable drug addict.. and i can't help but wish forced sterilization was a reality...

but i think the dangers on infringing on our own freedom are worse. The ability to make that choice yourself i feel is vital.

 

[psychetool]

Actually, you are right DD. It should never be forced. I think people should sign up (and would sign up in droves) to get sterilized for a $7,000 government check. Thats far less then they would end up paying out for a life on welfare/child services and all the other shit. Forced is definitly not the way to go.

 

[Mariposa]

I am with DD on this one. Forced anything is bad, particularly when one ethnic group or community is targeted.

This highlights that pro-choice works both ways; even the most fervent abortion opponents have to admit that.

 

[exarkann]

actually psychetool, thats a good idea. make it 10,000 and i gaurentee that people all over would flock to get it done. that would leave the people intellegent enough not to let their greed blind them have the resources to breed effectively.

 

[Infernal]

This concept is ridiculous. Forced abortions and sterilisation is in keeping with the lofty ideas of gas chambers and 'final solutions.' It becomes an issue of choice and freedom despite the fact that it may save people from having to feed more children. I draw an inference from the Orson Scott Card's book Ender's Shadow which took place in the self-same city. The fate of humanity rested on one of Rotterdam's unwanted children.

Who knows if one of these children could save the world?

 

[Beatlebot]

Actually, you are right DD. It should never be forced. I think people should sign up (and would sign up in droves) to get sterilized for a $7,000 government check. Thats far less then they would end up paying out for a life on welfare/child services and all the other shit. Forced is definitly not the way to go.

That's a really good idea! There is no way any govt would ever bring it in though.

I think there would a be a huge possibility of people later regretting their decision and trying to sue the govt for bribing them, but still, top idea.

 

[MethTheChef]

WND is probably the worst source on earth for anything regarding abortion or contraception.

nah

 

[Kilgore]

I am 100% for people to choose having abortion but this is completely nuts. Forcing others to have abortion is against my views.

 

[kittyinthedark]

Who knows if one of these children could save the world?

But WHAT IF one of those children is the next Hitler? What ifs are pointless.

When it comes down to it, unwanted children or children parents cannot support overwhelmingly become drains on society. Sure, it's a harsh truth, but the stats don't lie.

 

[Belisarius]

<<This concept is ridiculous. Forced abortions and sterilisation is in keeping with the lofty ideas of gas chambers and 'final solutions.' It becomes an issue of choice and freedom despite the fact that it may save people from having to feed more children. I draw an inference from the Orson Scott Card's book Ender's Shadow which took place in the self-same city. The fate of humanity rested on one of Rotterdam's unwanted children.>>

True that. The U.S. has gone the whole forced sterilization route, in the early 20th century, when eugenics was the rage. The Man is really looking out for his best interest, not yours, let alone the human race's. From forced sterilization it would be too easy to go on to killing certain people for their own good ("the poor things"), then deciding what kind of population you want to create, and along what lines. The fact that genetic knowledge will probably increase geometrically over the next generation would only make this slippery slope worse. Got the Hodgkin's gene? "Get your tubes tied, or else." Fuck that.

<<actually psychetool, thats a good idea. make it 10,000 and i gaurentee that people all over would flock to get it done. that would leave the people intellegent enough not to let their greed blind them have the resources to breed effectively>>

I agree. If someone's willing to sell their lifelong fertility, go for it. As for forcing though, no.

 

[Infernal]

When it comes down to it, unwanted children or children parents cannot support overwhelmingly become drains on society. Sure, it's a harsh truth, but the stats don't lie.

I'm sure Hitler said very much the same things about the Gypsies. Such a drain that we should just not allow them to breed. Fuck the stats. And what if it, as Bel suggests, that becomes a trend? Guess we won't let those fucking Muslims breed because they are all terrorists from birth right?