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male vs female drug users

herm1t said:
I've never had trouble buying any Pharmacist medication, just come in with the name of it on a post it note and mispronounce the name, then show the pharmacist the note, saying your mum asked you to get it.
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That used to work for me back in the day. Seems like codeine is slowly becoming extinct.
 
I have noticed a big difference walking in with my trackies and beanie, compared to business attire - nice dress and shoes. It's pretty shit they discriminate like that. I know I don't look like a druggie at all, which of course I work to my advantage. I've never been denied codeine ever though I have been told to take it easy.

I don't think codeine will ever become extinct. Lately I've noticed a trend away from the hard questioning and ID taking of the last 12 months; the last few times I've bought it I haven't had to answer any questions at all. It's just too much of a money maker for them to get rid of completely I think.
 
Busty St Clare said:
Girls get more drugs for free than guys.
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This is also true but in some (most?) cases it's because shmucks think shouting girls drugs will get them a fuck. I like to do drugs when I want to, so I'd never rely on someone else to give me my hit. I've always supported my habits myself, and I wouldn't want it any other way. I've always been one to shout my friends because I like the people I like to be having fun and money doesn't mean that much to me anyway. I really love though that in my current relationship me and my boy are equal in what we do. I never keep track of who has bought what, but with the people that are good friends, everything equals out over time.
 
i have one female friend who has more money than most people but flat out wont buy drugs just because she knows she can get them from guys willing to buy it thinking they might have a chance with her,
i do agree with foots though i'd say more guys than girls are drug users but at the same time from my experience girls are less likely to make it obvious or say that they do
 
I don't feel that the percentage of female drug users is that much lower then that of males, and with hard drugs such as meth or heroin I've seen it is just about the same statistically. I would say the percentage runs 60% male to 40% female average for most drugs. Not only in my experience with many people who use, but I remember reading articles (I'll see if i can't find them) of battling addiction and interview tests, and heroin users came out that 42% were female, and 58% males. In other statistics as well it seems to average for most every drug around this percentage.

In life I've blazed with plenty of girls, rolled with and been around alot of girls using E, hung out with alot of tweakers ages around 17-24 & 35-60, and junkies around the ages of 18-25, all of whom the sex are almost equal IME.
 
Interesting thread footsy. I was introduced to LSD by a girl but all other drugs by males. In my group of friends over the last decade, the females have tended to stick to lsd & mdma and most of my male mates have also dabbled in opiates, speed, RCs etc on top. All pretty big drinkers though. Funnily enough barely anyone I know smokes weed anymore whereas as a teenager we were all stoned 24/7.

they like partying with fun girls, but they want a relationship with someone who is very straight and 'good'. What does everyone else think about this?
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I'm the opposite, I think it'd be hypocritical to be getting high and wanting a partner who was sober. If I'm going to be bending my mind then I want my partner there on the same level as me =D
 
i think the risk-taking behaviours of young men and boys are well documented and widely understood.
as a show of strength, and a demonstration of fearlessness, males have a tendency to want to show others and themselves that they are not scared.
just look at the language used around this forum - boasting about your epic drug use = "dicksizing".

drug consumption is tied in with machismo for a lot of guys. this goes for alcohol as well as all kinds of drugs. if you don't share someone's taste in drugs, or preferred dosage, a guy can be accused of being effeminate, weak, homosexual, etc etc.
"less of a man" in simpleton terms.
that's not to say that women don't also have reckless tendencies and a range of social pressures, but i think what leads people to drug use in the first place can be affected by gender.
i think the "male = risk taker" social force is stronger (in australia, at the current time) than the "good girls don't use drugs" stereotype/pressure. every individual case is different of course...and i'm usually very reluctant to draw stereotypical conclusions about gender and behaviour.
but i certainly agree that i've known more male drug users, and of course that the perceptions of the general public and medical community are skewed in the suspicion cast upon guys in relation to drug use/abuse. the demographic i imagine most likely to be prescribed medications with abuse potential are middle-aged and older women. i don't have any figures for this, just my observations.
this could be their inherent common sense and measured approach to their health, the trust they have built with their doctors, or perhaps a stereotype of restraint and responsibility in regard to these matters.
while there are probably less old ladies going home and crushing their meds and sniffing them or running them through a micron filter- than twenty-something males - it doesn't mean that abuse and addiction isn't likely to happen. i wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of statistical evidence showing a greater potential for drug misuse amongst the male population, but it seems to go against most of our modern understandings of sexual discrimination.

there are a lot of outdated, ugly stereotypes responsible for this (woman as nurturer, etc) and myths perpetuated by the media. so rarely in the narratives put to us in the news, film and television etc is the drug addict presented as female. if so, it is usually represented as the fault of some man corrupting her.
this was a rambling response, but i hope it makes sense. great thread!
 
One stereotype that 'does' hold true in my experience is that there are a far greater number of male drug dealers. I'm too tired to speculate why, but I'm sure there's a good reason for it.
 
spacejunk said:
i think the risk-taking behaviours of young men and boys are well documented and widely understood.
as a show of strength, and a demonstration of fearlessness, males have a tendency to want to show others and themselves that they are not scared.
just look at the language used around this forum - boasting about your epic drug use = "dicksizing".

drug consumption is tied in with machismo for a lot of guys. this goes for alcohol as well as all kinds of drugs. if you don't share someone's taste in drugs, or preferred dosage, a guy can be accused of being effeminate, weak, homosexual, etc etc.
"less of a man" in simpleton terms.
that's not to say that women don't also have reckless tendencies and a range of social pressures, but i think what leads people to drug use in the first place can be affected by gender.
i think the "male = risk taker" social force is stronger (in australia, at the current time) than the "good girls don't use drugs" stereotype/pressure. every individual case is different of course...and i'm usually very reluctant to draw stereotypical conclusions about gender and behaviour.
but i certainly agree that i've known more male drug users, and of course that the perceptions of the general public and medical community are skewed in the suspicion cast upon guys in relation to drug use/abuse. the demographic i imagine most likely to be prescribed medications with abuse potential are middle-aged and older women. i don't have any figures for this, just my observations.
this could be their inherent common sense and measured approach to their health, the trust they have built with their doctors, or perhaps a stereotype of restraint and responsibility in regard to these matters.
while there are probably less old ladies going home and crushing their meds and sniffing them or running them through a micron filter- than twenty-something males - it doesn't mean that abuse and addiction isn't likely to happen. i wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of statistical evidence showing a greater potential for drug misuse amongst the male population, but it seems to go against most of our modern understandings of sexual discrimination.

there are a lot of outdated, ugly stereotypes responsible for this (woman as nurturer, etc) and myths perpetuated by the media. so rarely in the narratives put to us in the news, film and television etc is the drug addict presented as female. if so, it is usually represented as the fault of some man corrupting her.
this was a rambling response, but i hope it makes sense. great thread!
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I agree with everything you said.

In my group of friends, there is a couple more guys then girls who use drugs. But if I take other groups of friends into account I know it's hardly noticable.
But daily users I've found is far more common with guys. I know lots of guys who enjoy a few cones every night but very few girls who do. Same goes with alcohol.
However I find when it comes to harder drugs, the girls that do use them, seem to have far less moderation control then what the guys do, and will constantly be chasing more. I'm not at all suprised girls find it easier to get pharmecutical meds then what guys do athough I do consider it sexist.

This is a good thread and one I've thought about before but never made a thread on. Kudos Footscrazy.
 
I think spacejunk said it well, in that the male risktaking trait makes it more likely guys will use drugs. I've also found the same as what thestudent said in that daily users tend to be blokes. I guess I've noticed that a lot of my female friends like doing things as a group, so taking drugs may be more of a social thing, whereas using daily is quite independent. I've never minded doing things on my own though, in fact I prefer taking drugs alone and these days taking drugs for me is a very solitary pursuit, and that's the way I like it.

I don't know if I agree with girls being able to exert less moderation when it comes to hard drugs though. If anything I think maybe girls are more likely to put it out there, because girls are more likely to have others support their habits than the other way around (as much as I hate to say it, it seems to be true). I decided pretty early on that I would support all my own habits myself, just because I want to do as much drugs as I want, when I want! It does seem easy for many girls to get guys to give them drugs though.
 
It does seem easy for many girls to get guys to give them drugs though.
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The flip side is that a lot of guys do it themselves, either in the hopes of getting laid, or just to play the role as the provider, or for some other reason.

I know when I was with a girl who for a time wasn't working, I'd usually end up buying drugs for both of us on a night out, because the alternative was stay sober (which would suck), or get off chops while she was sober (which felt distinctly un-gentlemanly). Fortunately her tastes leaned more towards weed and acid and she was less partial to the ice and MDMA I was such a fan of at the time, so it wasn't all that extra a cost.
 
^ yeah definitely... In most relationships I've been in I've shouted my boyfriend the drugs, just because it feels rude to get high around someone who has to stay sober, and I like my friends/boyfriend to feel high and happy anyway.
 
^agree footscrazy, usually, I think in general as was posted above, men especially younger men do partake in more risky behaviour, and also, in general, have a higher disposable income, or at least would rather spend it on drugs than handbags or shoes...however i do disagree with the getting laid thing... I reckon by having a couple of good women around the campfire, its often just the dynamics are more pleasant... so yes i would say that men spend more money on drugs, but are more likely to share with a sexy woman... lol
 
I'd say this debate needs to go a little further than sex and extend to social groups as well.

I'll use gays as an example. I have a group of fairly closely knit gay and female friends - most of these happen to these days be heavy meth users, and IV users (particularly the girls who weren't before)

With zero of my own input into the situation, in groups like these there tends to be a drone of girls who hang around the gay guys and use drugs, and obviously the status quo of shouting a girl drugs to get laid doesn't apply here because the males in question are gay.

fuel to the fire...
 
are you saying that the guys in this group still supply drugs to the girls?
p'haps it's just the gentlemanly thing to do ? :)
 
I've always noticed a fairly substantial difference in the ratio of male:female drug users....this might not be accurate though as maybe females are more likely to keep it hidden *shrug* Or maybe it's just the fact that most the females I know are more straight/geeky types, more likely to use very occasionally (if that)

Maybe it would help if we looked at different drugs...are certain drugs more appealing to one sex? Is the way those drugs are used different between male/female users?

Might be easier to look at drug addicts rather than users. At different methadone/bupe clinics I've been to the majority is usually male. Maybe there's some stats somewhere for breakdown of people prescribed methadone, or usage of DA services.

It's so variable our personal experiences don't really mean a lot, we need surveys or studies done on large numbers of people to get more insight into this. It's an interesting topic to discuss though.

bustabraincell said:
^agree footscrazy, usually, I think in general as was posted above, men especially younger men do partake in more risky behaviour, and also, in general, have a higher disposable income, or at least would rather spend it on drugs than handbags or shoes..
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That makes sense...but as you mentioned I've also noticed all sorts of female users not having to pay for their stuff, everything from addict to occasional.
 
The area where I live, the ratio has always been pretty even..from prescription to marijuana to hard drugs I've run into a mixed group since my pre-teens. There are ladies that go just as hard if not HARDER
The vast majority of the company I keep is male, and now that I think about it I was pretty clean before I met my boyfriend..but I was going to seek out drugs anyway, he just helped me get comfortable.
Also, I've gotten drug favors in the past but I always feel obligated to pay the person back in some form because I don't want to come across as dependent or needy.
 
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