OrbitalCombustion
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Approximately four years ago I saw a short documentary on VICE about a young man traveling to Nepal to partake on the perilous journey to consume Mad Honey in the Himalayas. Like many, I was attracted to how the honey was portrayed, touting it as a psychedelic.
I finally ordered from a reputable supplier and eagerly awaited its journey halfway across the globe from Kathmandu. The night it arrived I opened the well-packaged container and shoveled two teaspoons down the hatch on an empty stomach. As opposed to your common honey, it is quite a runny consistency; it is a darker reddish-brown color with an almost fermented, malty, slightly bitter taste. Still tasted quite good despite the profile.
The honey is harvested in the Himalayas by the largest bee on Earth. They harvest from a flower called Rhododendron, and from what I've read the alpestrine nature of the conditions causes the plant to become 'sick' and produce a grayanotoxin. There are some interesting historical anecdotes that I encourage you to look into about an ancient army eating the honey and being ransacked by enemy forces while inebriated.
Initially, I was a bit concerned about the potential cardiac issues this honey can bring about, which kept me on high alert for the first 30 minutes. I noticed on my smartwatch that my heart rate increased by about 30 beats per minute, but nothing worrying. I even have an EKG monitor on it and everything was in sync. During that first half-hour I noticed some slight perceptual changes and some parasthesia. A warm, sedating effect became ever more present, almost feeling stoned to a degree. Time slowed down considerably as I smoked cigarettes and focused on the high.
At 40 minutes in the effects were very pronounced to the point I half-stumbled into my bedroom to lie down. The sedation was to the point that I wanted to go to sleep. As I lay down the effects became much more pronounced and new sensations emerged. I had this extremely pleasant warmth coursing through all parts of my body. Tingly sensations in my chest, stomach, back of my head and arms. There was a marked heaviness in my feet too. It was unlike any drug I've taken before. If I had to compare it to anything it was like an opiate, a sedative, and alcohol in one.
All my aches and pains disappeared and I became completely inebriated by this magical ancient medicine. About an hour and a half in I noticed that my sinuses were clearing up, felt very similar to a strong antibiotic. I've used various honey in the past for this precise purpose, but nothing on this level. The immune-boosting effects of this particular variant have been known and used for millennia in Nepal and Turkey. It's rather amazing that honey can have this effect on a human. It's known to kill animals, especially horses. Even some bees die from it, oddly enough. Just to note, the Himalayan variety seems to be much less toxic than the Turkey variety, according to the literature. This is because in Turkey they harvest from Rhododendron ponticum.
As I lie in bed, I was overwhelmed by the sheer warmth and sedation, I was practically catatonic. I could feel this glowing heat in my chest accompanied by an odd euphoria that seemed in sync with arrhythmia. Just a word of caution to those afflicted by heart conditions, the grayanotoxins affect sodium ion channels and can cause heart palpitations and such, so be careful! This effect lasted for a few hours as I dipped in and out of consciousness. Honestly felt amazing.
I slept like a rock, having had a tremendous amount of deep sleep according to my smartwatch. It felt very similar to the first time I took opiates or got stoned. Of particular interest were my sinuses; I blew all kinds of mucus out. Within a few hours, I felt amazingly refreshed and clear, nice energy boost. Having abused narcotics for 20 years I did have minor pain in my right side, which was not surprising considering the toxic content. It's even known to have stellar hepatotoxic effects.
If you decide to partake on this one of a kind experience be aware of the following (this does not mean I am encouraging you to consume this honey, just my two cents):
(1) in my experience it was more sedative and stoned-like than psychedelic, albeit in higher doses that might be more pronounced
(2) perform an allergy test if you can (lick the seal, for instance); then start with the recommended dose of one teaspoon, this is not to be trifled with and has documented deaths (albeit very rare and none have been reported in over 100 years)
(3) make sure not to be somewhere where you have to drive yourself home, it can cause blurry vision compounded with sedation
Other than that it was a great experience and I just ate some more now, a day later. Bee safe! (haha get it, 'bee' lol)
***UPDATE***: It has been roughly a fortnight since posting this and I have had the opportunity to try Mad Honey half a dozen times. I wanted to update my report to observe several things, listed below:
1) There appears to be quite a substantial tolerance to the initial effects - as in all my subsequent experiences were much less pronounced than the first. Granted, I have stayed in the 2 teaspoon dosage range, and taken predominantly at night time while watching a movie, so I will be increasing the dosage safely to see if I can get those same effects. That being said, there was still a noticeable inebriation caused by the honey which is mostly a dizzy, sedated, analgesic aura. What i'm really looking for was the warmth that I felt from the first time, hard to describe what that felt like but it was amazing.
2) In an effort to test out different vendors, I received an additional package in the mail. Off the bat I noticed how much lighter in color it was, and unfortunately the entire bottle was crystallized leading me to believe it was not as fresh as the runny, reddish-brown batch that I received first. The new batch smelled the same, for the most part, however it did not taste as good to me personally, plus I was thrown off by the texture from it being crystallized. I thought about putting it in a warm pot of water to de-crystallize but feared damaging some of the active compounds; although, I may still try this anyway for science's sake.
3) On each occasion I cannot stress how amazing the sleep was, you'll sleep like a rock!!! In fact, every time I was off to bed within 2 hours - sometimes achieving sleep quickly and other times just hanging out in bed - regardless it should be known that it is quite sedating.
4) **This next part is a bit gross, just a warning**. It is no surprise that honey of all varieties provide antimicrobial, antiparasitic, and antifungal properties. A few days after my second dose with Mad Honey, I was in the shower and went to clean my rear-end, I noticed something stuck in the hairs leading to my anus, I cast it off not thinking anything of it until it hit the ground - it was white. Having been obsessed with parasite cleanses years ago, I immediately thought to inspect it to see if it could be the infamous tapeworm....and after I picked it up I believe that it was from my inspection (I have experience with these little critters). However, I must state that I was using a medicinal grade (850+ MGO rated) Manuka honey concurrently with the Mad Honey (not at the same time but within 24 hours of each other), so it seems inconclusive to me which one could be the culprit. Since eating these medicinal honeys i've noticed my GI tract being cleaned out, including some pain on my right side and my intestines upon waking. I have IBS so the honey has been quite helpful in repairing damage done to my lower GI. In fact, several days in using the medicinal Manuka honey, I noticed a HUGE release in my gallbladder. WOW, talk about relief, instantly my entire body felt at ease, lungs opened up, all the pain and discomfort that is a part of my everyday life vanished (accompanied by all kinds of sounds - squish, squirt, svroom, splish). I've experienced this same release on many occasions while doing juicing cleanses; one of those releases caused me to pass 100s of tiny gallstones which I defecated over the course of 4 days, expelling tons of toxic garbage from my body and in the process feeling the best I have in 30 years. The Manuka honey in addition opened up my lungs beautifully, enabling me to take large, deep breaths with ease. You cannot put a price on having that freedom. Thank you bees!
5) This report is simply my experience with Mad Honey. In no way, shape or form am I encouraging another human being to consume it. I fully understand and accept the risks from eating this unique honey. I will re-state though that this has been used by many for several millennia without issue, take that for what you will. Like anything in this world, you can take too much, you could be allergic, or a batch could be very strong without your knowledge. If you do end up ordering/consuming this honey, perform an allergy test and use sparingly at first, that is the most important recommendation I have. Of course, I am not a scientist or a doctor so I cannot provide every detail of what is in this honey and the short or long-term effects of those compounds in a scientific manner. I am a human reporting about a food that has been touted to cause inebriation and health benefits, that is it.
~ OrbitalCombustion
I finally ordered from a reputable supplier and eagerly awaited its journey halfway across the globe from Kathmandu. The night it arrived I opened the well-packaged container and shoveled two teaspoons down the hatch on an empty stomach. As opposed to your common honey, it is quite a runny consistency; it is a darker reddish-brown color with an almost fermented, malty, slightly bitter taste. Still tasted quite good despite the profile.
The honey is harvested in the Himalayas by the largest bee on Earth. They harvest from a flower called Rhododendron, and from what I've read the alpestrine nature of the conditions causes the plant to become 'sick' and produce a grayanotoxin. There are some interesting historical anecdotes that I encourage you to look into about an ancient army eating the honey and being ransacked by enemy forces while inebriated.
Initially, I was a bit concerned about the potential cardiac issues this honey can bring about, which kept me on high alert for the first 30 minutes. I noticed on my smartwatch that my heart rate increased by about 30 beats per minute, but nothing worrying. I even have an EKG monitor on it and everything was in sync. During that first half-hour I noticed some slight perceptual changes and some parasthesia. A warm, sedating effect became ever more present, almost feeling stoned to a degree. Time slowed down considerably as I smoked cigarettes and focused on the high.
At 40 minutes in the effects were very pronounced to the point I half-stumbled into my bedroom to lie down. The sedation was to the point that I wanted to go to sleep. As I lay down the effects became much more pronounced and new sensations emerged. I had this extremely pleasant warmth coursing through all parts of my body. Tingly sensations in my chest, stomach, back of my head and arms. There was a marked heaviness in my feet too. It was unlike any drug I've taken before. If I had to compare it to anything it was like an opiate, a sedative, and alcohol in one.
All my aches and pains disappeared and I became completely inebriated by this magical ancient medicine. About an hour and a half in I noticed that my sinuses were clearing up, felt very similar to a strong antibiotic. I've used various honey in the past for this precise purpose, but nothing on this level. The immune-boosting effects of this particular variant have been known and used for millennia in Nepal and Turkey. It's rather amazing that honey can have this effect on a human. It's known to kill animals, especially horses. Even some bees die from it, oddly enough. Just to note, the Himalayan variety seems to be much less toxic than the Turkey variety, according to the literature. This is because in Turkey they harvest from Rhododendron ponticum.
As I lie in bed, I was overwhelmed by the sheer warmth and sedation, I was practically catatonic. I could feel this glowing heat in my chest accompanied by an odd euphoria that seemed in sync with arrhythmia. Just a word of caution to those afflicted by heart conditions, the grayanotoxins affect sodium ion channels and can cause heart palpitations and such, so be careful! This effect lasted for a few hours as I dipped in and out of consciousness. Honestly felt amazing.
I slept like a rock, having had a tremendous amount of deep sleep according to my smartwatch. It felt very similar to the first time I took opiates or got stoned. Of particular interest were my sinuses; I blew all kinds of mucus out. Within a few hours, I felt amazingly refreshed and clear, nice energy boost. Having abused narcotics for 20 years I did have minor pain in my right side, which was not surprising considering the toxic content. It's even known to have stellar hepatotoxic effects.
If you decide to partake on this one of a kind experience be aware of the following (this does not mean I am encouraging you to consume this honey, just my two cents):
(1) in my experience it was more sedative and stoned-like than psychedelic, albeit in higher doses that might be more pronounced
(2) perform an allergy test if you can (lick the seal, for instance); then start with the recommended dose of one teaspoon, this is not to be trifled with and has documented deaths (albeit very rare and none have been reported in over 100 years)
(3) make sure not to be somewhere where you have to drive yourself home, it can cause blurry vision compounded with sedation
Other than that it was a great experience and I just ate some more now, a day later. Bee safe! (haha get it, 'bee' lol)
***UPDATE***: It has been roughly a fortnight since posting this and I have had the opportunity to try Mad Honey half a dozen times. I wanted to update my report to observe several things, listed below:
1) There appears to be quite a substantial tolerance to the initial effects - as in all my subsequent experiences were much less pronounced than the first. Granted, I have stayed in the 2 teaspoon dosage range, and taken predominantly at night time while watching a movie, so I will be increasing the dosage safely to see if I can get those same effects. That being said, there was still a noticeable inebriation caused by the honey which is mostly a dizzy, sedated, analgesic aura. What i'm really looking for was the warmth that I felt from the first time, hard to describe what that felt like but it was amazing.
2) In an effort to test out different vendors, I received an additional package in the mail. Off the bat I noticed how much lighter in color it was, and unfortunately the entire bottle was crystallized leading me to believe it was not as fresh as the runny, reddish-brown batch that I received first. The new batch smelled the same, for the most part, however it did not taste as good to me personally, plus I was thrown off by the texture from it being crystallized. I thought about putting it in a warm pot of water to de-crystallize but feared damaging some of the active compounds; although, I may still try this anyway for science's sake.
3) On each occasion I cannot stress how amazing the sleep was, you'll sleep like a rock!!! In fact, every time I was off to bed within 2 hours - sometimes achieving sleep quickly and other times just hanging out in bed - regardless it should be known that it is quite sedating.
4) **This next part is a bit gross, just a warning**. It is no surprise that honey of all varieties provide antimicrobial, antiparasitic, and antifungal properties. A few days after my second dose with Mad Honey, I was in the shower and went to clean my rear-end, I noticed something stuck in the hairs leading to my anus, I cast it off not thinking anything of it until it hit the ground - it was white. Having been obsessed with parasite cleanses years ago, I immediately thought to inspect it to see if it could be the infamous tapeworm....and after I picked it up I believe that it was from my inspection (I have experience with these little critters). However, I must state that I was using a medicinal grade (850+ MGO rated) Manuka honey concurrently with the Mad Honey (not at the same time but within 24 hours of each other), so it seems inconclusive to me which one could be the culprit. Since eating these medicinal honeys i've noticed my GI tract being cleaned out, including some pain on my right side and my intestines upon waking. I have IBS so the honey has been quite helpful in repairing damage done to my lower GI. In fact, several days in using the medicinal Manuka honey, I noticed a HUGE release in my gallbladder. WOW, talk about relief, instantly my entire body felt at ease, lungs opened up, all the pain and discomfort that is a part of my everyday life vanished (accompanied by all kinds of sounds - squish, squirt, svroom, splish). I've experienced this same release on many occasions while doing juicing cleanses; one of those releases caused me to pass 100s of tiny gallstones which I defecated over the course of 4 days, expelling tons of toxic garbage from my body and in the process feeling the best I have in 30 years. The Manuka honey in addition opened up my lungs beautifully, enabling me to take large, deep breaths with ease. You cannot put a price on having that freedom. Thank you bees!
5) This report is simply my experience with Mad Honey. In no way, shape or form am I encouraging another human being to consume it. I fully understand and accept the risks from eating this unique honey. I will re-state though that this has been used by many for several millennia without issue, take that for what you will. Like anything in this world, you can take too much, you could be allergic, or a batch could be very strong without your knowledge. If you do end up ordering/consuming this honey, perform an allergy test and use sparingly at first, that is the most important recommendation I have. Of course, I am not a scientist or a doctor so I cannot provide every detail of what is in this honey and the short or long-term effects of those compounds in a scientific manner. I am a human reporting about a food that has been touted to cause inebriation and health benefits, that is it.
~ OrbitalCombustion
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