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Harm Reduction Macgyver micron filter

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First off, I would like to ask you to read this and ad your opinion on how well this design filters, if it would be able to filter pills better than compressed cotton in a syringe, what materials would be best suited, and if the design can be sterilized.

I got this idea when I was filtering crushed codeine tablets (cwe). When I want to do this outside of my home I take a 10cc syringe, stuff a cotton ball in it, then add the pill sludge and push the mixture through slowly with the plunger. As the paracetamol acumulates on the cotton ball, the mixture becomes clearer and the resistance increases. To me this means that the liquid has to pass through smaller holes, meaning that it is being filtered better.

My idea is to use some type of powder which does NOT pass though a cotton filter, wet the cotton filter, put the powder on top, and run clean water though it and compress it (inside the barrel of a 10cc syringe). Then SLOWLY pass the pill sludge through onto a "spoon" and then filter that once more by putting a cotton into the spoon and sucking it up through a syringe. This seems to be a very cost efficient way to filter pills, and the degree of filtering seems to be far better than a cotton wad by itself. It should however be noted that a micron filter is still better.

Although I have never used this method for any type of tablet, I have used it for crushed up activated carbon (this does not get filtered out by a cotton filter), manganese, and many other tiny insoulube particles. This works the same way as ground water filtration. I think the powder I last used was flour, but I'm not sure. I also don't think that flour is ideal for filtering thing which are going to be injected because flour can harbour many types of bacteria. Please help me find the perfect filtering substance. Thanks for reading this, looking forward to replies.
 
How to test the degree of filtration

I just came up with an idea on how to test this as a filter. Someone who has a micron filter, please help out. First off, we need a control, 3 micron filters and a large number of any pill that can be injected (don't worry, the pills can be still be used and none will be wasted). The control should be clean water. Pass this through a micron filter, to prove it doesn't clog. Now filter a bunch of pills through a cotton and pass the liquid through a micron filter until it clogs or until the resistance becomes so great that there's a chance of breaking the micron filter. Record how much of the liquid it took to clog the filter. Now repeat this with the same quantity of pills and the same quantity of water using my filtering technique instead of the cotton. Record how many mls it took to clog the filter this time. Put the results on this thread for everyone to see. Please add the size of the filter (diameter, how many microns etc). I would do this myself but I don't have any micron filters at the moment.
 
Sorry to be a pessimist here, but I'm pretty sure you won't be filtering to micron size with your method, and I don't think you're going to get many volunteers to waste their $7 filters for your experiment. I could be wrong, or maybe someone's got a free supply, so good luck in your quest.
 
By macgyver micron filter I mean the closest possible thing to a micron filter without a proper filter membrane. Btw, a coffee filter supposedly filters to 15 microns and a cotton to 50 microns. This filters better than a cotton or a coffee filter as far as I know.Also the micron filter wouldn't be wasted, your filtering your pills either way, so the micron filters and the pills are being used as they would usualy be, the only difference is that this way the cotton is replaced by my "technique". Hell, you might even be saving your micron filters.

Anyway, I also doubt that anyone will try this, but hey, it's worth a try. Also the results would be so useful for people without access to micron filters. If anyone has another idea how to test the degree of filtration, please post the process.
 
Dude! I just said this stuff filters BETTER than a coffee filter! Not trying to sound pissy, just thought I should mention it.
 
sorry, i was tired. IME several layers of coffee filters comes out cleaner than compacted cotton. way less resistance too, so you are not trying to squeeze the shit through with your fingers about to split open.
 
Coffee filters are a good way to filter. Maybe it would be good to add a coffee filter in the bottom of the syringe (to avoid particles which were meant to filter). Anyway, I don't know if you meant that, but thanks for the input.
 
Pool filters are filled with fine sand. The water is on top, and it has to run down through the sand (on top, there is a "pre-filter" sand, that is a little more larger in particle size, underneath there's a very very fine sand) to get out of the filter machine. It's the same technic that you explained with your "macgyver powder filter". But this won't work in such small quantities, and it won't filter properly. Remember: You're injecting this stuff, not swimming in it!

If I couldn't get my hands on micron-filters, no matter what, and I MUST inject because I'm craving so much and I'm so sick, I'd filter with the finest coffee filter available. There are different pore-sizes available. I'd choose the finest one and then I'd filter with it. Maybe buy a big syringe (10ml or more) because you'll have to dilute your solution much more in order not to lose much in your filter. And you have to flush the filter with water after your solution has run through it to get remaining dope/desired drug of choice.
 
Do you mean celite? I think that's what it's called. That's exactly the technique I was thinking about using. Ofcourse coffee filters are the most likely choice for dope sick iv users, I agree. I was just thinking about IV'ing pills because they need alot of filtering. As you said this isn't something we are gonna swim in, so the powder needs to be sterile (and stuff similar to silicone is not good to IV, think of the cyclizine and dipipanone pills) and cannot under any circumstance pass through the cotton onto the spoon. Any ideas? This is an idea which is "designed" for IV'ing tablets.
 
Celit - Diatomacious earth. Silica would work too, but the powder is so fine it's hard to manage without inhaling it and getting it everywhere, I also wouldn't think it advisable to inject.
 
Here those micron filters (called hifi-filters here) cost around 6euros per 12 pack. How came they cost ten times more in states?
 
This is a terrible idea. Just order some micron filters - there are models that screw onto the end of Leur-Lock syringes, making them the ultimate portable filter.

I don't think that this is a good idea or something that really anyone should attempt.
 
muvolution said:
This is a terrible idea. Just order some micron filters - there are models that screw onto the end of Leur-Lock syringes, making them the ultimate portable filter.

I don't think that this is a good idea or something that really anyone should attempt.
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This is true.

If you are going to be injecting, and don't have an ampule of something meant to be injected, then micron filtering is really worth it.
 
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