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Opioids Lucid dreams on opiates?

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Anon610

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Anyone experience lucid dreams on opiates? For me its like clockwork. I take 75-200mg of Morphine SR or 30mg of Oxycodone before I got to bed and I always get these weird, lucid dreams.
Anyone else experience this? Just curious because its something I've wondered about for the past 2 years.
 
I'm not really sure. But it does cause the occasional hypnagogic auditory hallucinations for me, which is a phenomenon strongly tied to lucid dreams, so I would think so.

An interesting little factoid is that morphine was named after Morpheus, the Roman god of dreams, which would also suggest a connection.
 
Yes, it's called nodding off and it's what we are all after when we pop our pills and have our shots :)
 
Toz said:
Yes, it's called nodding off and it's what we are all after when we pop our pills and have our shots :)
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Nodding off to me is just passing out. I get a good high and get to sleep, I'm not necessarily nodding out. I haven't took enough to nod out in a while.
 
To me, nodding is when you're high enough to hang out in that space between asleep and awake. This happens frequently when I dose before bed. I can lie there in a semi dream state and have lucid dreams.
 
Yeah, that would happen all the time. I've had some of the most lucid/in-control dreams while on opiates..a lot of them are pretty apocalyptic, and the other majority could mirror what I've been watching on TV or what games I've been playing, cuz that seemed to be all the real stimulation I'd get on opioids and benzos. I would also get the best sleep in the world on Alprazolam. I don't know if I could contribute lucidity to Alprazolam, seeing that I would definitely always be on an opioid if I was on Alprazolam, but I would wake up after 4-8hours of sleep so refreshed and energized.

Oxy-codone I would typically not remember sleep, but that was probably because once I woke up I'd be scraping off green paint from an 80 without considering at all "where" I was during my sleeping state. I would get really dark lucid dreams detoxing with Oxy-codone though. Buprenorphine definitely caused my normal lucid dreams without a doubt though. My normal lucid dreams are probably most peoples nightmares though..:)

And to me, nodding out is similar to being in a meditative state for about a hour but meditating on clarity/nothing. Not remembering where you were the past time, but you've been on the couch, so it's easily pieced together that you've been on the couch. The most euphoric feeling on opiates is right where you're just about to actually nod out to the nothingness, but you just can't ever keep it there for some reason...at least I couldn't...maybe that's why I'd blow through so many pills in a day. When I was actually "in a nod," it was really just a feeling bliss. I wouldn't feel anything, but it's not like that was a bad thing...
 
sometimes i nod out and wake up saying random shit like i'm actually talking to someone lol but it feels so real. like one time i nodded out taking a piss and i found myself trying to pet an imaginary dog. weird shit...
 
emjay said:
An interesting little factoid is that morphine was named after Morpheus, the Roman god of dreams, which would also suggest a connection.
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I found this extremely interesting.
"Sertürner originally named the substance morphium after the Greek god of dreams Morpheus (Greek: Μορφεύς) for its tendency to cause sleep."
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
What induces lucid dreaming in me is melatonin or nicotine patches. Opioids don't by themselves seem to cause lucid dreams.
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Melatonin doesn't do anything for me. Never tried nicotine patches, but I heard thats a fool proof way to lucid dream. Also, when I use Alpha Brain before bed I get crazy dreams.
But, before I even started using that substance my Morphine SR 200mg would almost always induce lucid dreaming.
 
Anon610 said:
Melatonin doesn't do anything for me. Never tried nicotine patches, but I heard thats a fool proof way to lucid dream. Also, when I use Alpha Brain before bed I get crazy dreams.
But, before I even started using that substance my Morphine SR 200mg would almost always induce lucid dreaming.
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I should clear up what I meant, I do have lucid dreams while on opioids alone, but they aren't nearly as reliable at inducing lucid dream states. In fact, even with the melatonin, I wouldn't call them lucid, in that I know I'm dreaming, but vivid and memorable. Had a cute girlfriend in my dream last night %) From what I remember the nicotine patch dreams were what I would call lucid, in that I had as close to conscious control of my actions.

Recently, for the first time, while I was on some oxycodone (or was it methadone?) I woke up from a dream - into another dream. Freaky thing to happen when you think you're conscious and still dreaming.
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
I should clear up what I meant, I do have lucid dreams while on opioids alone, but they aren't nearly as reliable at inducing lucid dream states. In fact, even with the melatonin, I wouldn't call them lucid, in that I know I'm dreaming, but vivid and memorable. Had a cute girlfriend in my dream last night %) From what I remember the nicotine patch dreams were what I would call lucid, in that I had as close to conscious control of my actions.

Recently, for the first time, while I was on some oxycodone (or was it methadone?) I woke up from a dream - into another dream. Freaky thing to happen when you think you're conscious and still dreaming.
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I notice that I get more lucid dreams on long last opiates. Like the Morphine SR, so to me sounds like Methadone. I kinda just fade out on oxy's and get weird dreams.
 
Dreams, being subconcious thoughts, are pointless trying to understand consciously IMO, and basically the whole world.
They are mysterious and intreaging and................they are dreams.

Must have been Trillions of studies done on them, and still there isn't a finite answer, so what I am trying to say is enjoy them and don't try to consciously link them to the use of a chemical or situation or..............etc.... they are dreams.

You don't want to hypnotise yourself into thinking a certain medication, addictive or not, has anything to do with them.
If you start to think in this way then.......well...... consciously realise it is frivilous thinking and it will con you into so many justifications for self medicating it isn't even worth 10 seconds of thought.

Obviously this is all, like , just my opinion ........man....
ala
- The Dude
- The Big Lebowski.
 
I always referred to them as vivid dreams rather than lucid but either description works. Oxycodone would put me into a state of experiencing dreams within dreams to the point that I felt like freaking MILAGO IN WONDERLAND.

The dreams would be so vivid that they would stick with me for days and some of them I still cannot shake, years after having them. I still do not completely understand the physiology behind it but it varies from individual to individual and involves specific neuro transmitters.

I was just watching a movie with Wild Bill Hickok who started smoking opium and having incredibly lucid, vivid dreams. In fact it starred The Dude, The Big Lebowski himself.
 
i take suboxone every night,and i have really vivid lucid dreams that i can pretty much have a whole life in my dreams and when i wake up i actually miss the people in my dreams and felt like i just came back from a trip. I LOVE DREAMS!!

also i have about a dozen dreams in the last 15 years that i can remember very vividly. i have alot of dreams that have to do with my teeth falling out and car crashes,and time travel,really vivid time travel dreams that are trippy as fuck. like ill go on the subway and when im on it ,i look out the window and i see the whole landscape changing then i see a billboard that says arpil 2043. and i look over to the person sitting next me and he is just smiling at me ,and i ask him what about my family in 2013 and he replies "this is worth them".


also my dog died last month and every night since she has been in my dream,young and happy. i had one dream where she came back for one day only and we all knew that she would die again after 24 hours. then she went away after the 24 hours and it felt so real.

i swear i have some of the most crazy dreams,thhat if turned into movies would be the most brilliant,out of this world films ever.
 
shreddedlettuce said:
Dreams, being subconcious thoughts, are pointless trying to understand consciously IMO, and basically the whole world.
They are mysterious and intreaging and................they are dreams.

Must have been Trillions of studies done on them, and still there isn't a finite answer, so what I am trying to say is enjoy them and don't try to consciously link them to the use of a chemical or situation or..............etc.... they are dreams.

You don't want to hypnotise yourself into thinking a certain medication, addictive or not, has anything to do with them.
If you start to think in this way then.......well...... consciously realise it is frivilous thinking and it will con you into so many justifications for self medicating it isn't even worth 10 seconds of thought.

Obviously this is all, like , just my opinion ........man....
ala
- The Dude
- The Big Lebowski.
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I'm not sure I get what you mean. The content of dreams is a subconscious construct of your mind, the only thing I think that medications have to do with them is to make them experienced more directly. I don't take the drugs because I want to dream, that's merely a side effect, I take them because I'm an addict - I.E. I need no reason to take them! I think that most of the drugs that cause dreaming are disturbing your true cycle of sleep on some level, but this can't be all that's going on as melatonin seems to work for me and is a natural hormone.
 
I understand.
And I'm an addict too.
Basically in a nutshell what I was trying to say is that dreams have been studied and researched with all the tools, money and all the research that has gone into trying to understand them or using them to improve mindset, stress or as a tool to answer psychological issues.............they still haven't been "solved".

It's damn interesting, I know, but we really are baffled by them.
That's what makes them dreams.
It wouldn't be dreaming anymore if we could control them in any way (from purely a logical aspect).

I just think if one is in a good, comfortable mindspace then they would be more vivid and that opiates create this type of feeling without a "knock-out" stage like a hypnotic drug has (which is its purpose).
So maybe being in that semi-conscious state makes them easier to remember compared to a subconscious one that deep sleep or a hypnotic drug would produce.

But ultimately these questions aren't going to get any definitive answers based on how hard people have tried and still are baffled.

Hope that makes my post a bit clearer.
 
Completely! Thanks for replying.

Dreams are pretty cool, usually. Where else can you crash a plane with no consequences (well... a simulator I suppose)? I was pretty worried I was gonna get in trouble for crashing the 747... until I woke up.
 
For what it is worth, IME the pretty cool dreams always start becoming pretty depressing dreams after you realize that you are becoming dependent to the very drug that started the whole process.
Just a heads-up and a warning sign to look out for.
 
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