LSD Flashbacks

[Thatmdmahead]

Morning /Evening PD

My biggest fear about experimenting with LSD is a piece of information I have had in the back of my mind for a long time that I'm hoping you guys can put to rest. I heard that some of the LSD can be stored in some way in your body and then hit you many, many years later, leading to heart attack?

Thanks for your advice my friends

Love to all

 

[DOB]

Heart attack? why?!!? LOL I never had flashback,and I am using lsd and other halucinogens very often.My friend sayd that flashbacks are only bad if you are in work or driving car.

 

[ladyinthesky]

ugh that is not going to happen

 

[Thatmdmahead]

Thanks guys! Thats exactly what I wanted to hear.

 

[Shambles]

Some people do apparently have acid flashbacks, but it's not down to any of the chemical being leftover in the body - more a psychological thing, I should think. Certainly no connections with heart attacks either. From a physical perspective it's one of the (if not the) most benign drugs out there. You could probably drink a pint for breakfast every day of your life without it causing any physical problems... would probably cause a few mental ones though 8D

 

[kzorro]

I've had flashbacks but I find em quite enjoyable because well, I love acid. I feel no harm during them and doubt I'll ever feel any physical side effects in the future, as Shambles mentioned above

 

[Thou]

Every time something strange happens to me I think to myself "finally, one of those famed 'flashbacks' they've been promising us for lo these many years," but it's never so, always a false alarm.

I do however have those intense HPPD-esque visual changes in my visual field, LSD-25 most certainly played a role there, along with DXM being the two most significant. They can be a bit of niusance at times, but for the most part I don't notice them (I am taking a break from all drugs ATM for this reason, already about a month in). I had done mushrooms frequently for 5 or so years without suffering anything of the sort, which is funny because I've heard that mushrooms are a major trigger for these kind of symptoms in a lot of people. Just goes to show, everyone's different.

My girlfriend had taken the same tabs as me, and DID suffer flashbacks, which I found interesting. Then again, she has a few neurological problems that could have attributed to it.

 

[malakaix]

I never believed in the 'acid flashbacks' until it happened to me lol.

Marijuana brought upon two of the most intense flashbacks, both involved ego death.. which is quite a surprise when you had the intention of getting stoned. I enjoyed both of them.. even though they were quite confronting since it involved the deprogramming of myself and reality.. but it just means i'll be more prepared the next time i have a toke lol.

 

[Toltec]

This old soul has tripped for 30 years and I have never had any type of
flashbacks, the only side effect, I and many other trippers notice is the small amount of trails after you move your arms around.
Cheers

 

[weekapa]

i think that everyone who trips is going to have some sort of reprecussion but i dont think this is a bad thing...per-say...i also sometimes see trails and watch floor tiles move slightly...i have only been tripping for 5 years... but i have only ever met one person who has HPPD and not been able to function normalily and that problily wasent due to just lsd

 

[dread]

The second time I did acid, I smoked weed the morning after and I had a massive flashback. All the aspects of the trip came flooding back. It was deja vu all over again... truly.

 

[phatass]

i don't think its stored in your body, rather that there can be something (a colour, a sound, a feeling) which brings back up the memory of the LSD trip and makes you live it... interesting subject, hard too explain, well i don't know much about it

 

[cosmic charlie]

Ive been taking LSD for the last 10 years and Ive never had Flashback while I was sober. Sometimes when I smoke a very large amount of pot I will experience alot of visual distortion and be super high. But I don't consider that a flashback really because it was brought on by the use of marijuana. It's not a bad thing at all either , I actually enjoy when it happens :D

 

[any major dude]

This sounds like a combination of urban myths/possible gov't propoganda that have been going around since the 60s.

I've heard, and read, people claiming that LSD could be stored in fatty tissues in the brain, which is completely false. Most of this was spread around by law enforcement officials.

Also, I remember reading about the "only LSD related death" being a subject in an experiment who had a heart attack. While it was unclear if the heart attack was due to the acute effects of the drug, or this guy just happened to have a heart attack while on lsd.
Whatever the case may be, LSD has one of the shortest half-lives in the body of any drug. Even a massive dose (in the milligrams) would be completely undetectable by any known instrument or measurement after 3 days

 

[Ismene]

I heard that some of the LSD can be stored in some way in your body and then hit you many, many years later, leading to heart attack?

No, what happens is that when you take LSD your brain cells burst (that is what makes you trip) and the blood then runs down from your brain onto your spine coating it in LSD. Then the next time you crack your back you are instantly transported back to the peak of an LSD trip.

 

[ABDF]

No, what happens is that when you take LSD your brain cells burst (that is what makes you trip) and the blood then runs down from your brain onto your spine coating it in LSD. Then the next time you crack your back you are instantly transported back to the peak of an LSD trip.

Lolz.

 

[Thatmdmahead]

Haha I'd have to start cracking my back more often

Sorry if the question was silly but its something I heard

 

[veniti]

My good friend (who had taken acid on a number of occasions) decided to try a cocktail of various legal stimulants (natural ones that were ordered online consisting of plant matter extract) smoke some pot and then took half a tab of some fairly strong acid ... he spent 6 hours in hospital with an elevated heart rate and compared the experience to a bad DMT trip. He has constant flashbacks during the day and night with various visual effects (such as trailing and colour distortion).

For the first week or so after the trip the flashbacks were really intense and he couldn’t really do much but after a week or so they have become manageable (but haven’t disappeared completely)

Valium and alcohol seem to help. I was wondering if anybody knew of any other chemicals/ medications or therapies that would help alleviate these symptoms?

 

[cegli]

It's called HPPD. Promising meds for it are mostly anti-epileptic drugs. Clonazepam is suppose to be the best benzo for it, because it also reduces usages of serotonin along with the traditional GABA-A effects.

There are many other drugs that seem to work for some and not others such as Keppra (leviractam). Check out www.hppdonline.com for more information.

 

[jamaica0535]

^^ fuck keppra... shit made me pissed off, emotional, drowsy, dizzy, nauseous, and i felt like i was on the verge of the "bizzare hallucinations" at the point where i was supposed to double the dose i was taking.... All to keep me out of car accidents, kind of counter productive seeing as how i was passing out at the wheel, fighting nausea, and on someones ass going 85 down the highway while screaming at them.....

horribly expensive stuff without insurance, thank god for copay....

But an LSD flashback is not going to cause you to have a heart attack, nor is it the result of stored LSD in your spine breaking off and traveling to your brain like a trippy anyerism....

Its more of a form of post traumatic stress syndrome, or something similar to it... Psychs cause powerful respnses in the brain, many of these can be very powerfully emotional and psychological.... They leave an impact, your brain makes memories and sometimes they can be triggered.

Its honestly not as bad as the media makes it out to be for most, HPPD is a little bit more of a concern because that is persisting hallucinations. Certain locations will cause me to have tracer type visuals at night, often places that have nothing to do with psychedelic drug use. There is one camp ground that does it, and whenever i camp anywhere else it doesn't seem to happen. The only conncection i can make is my lakeside acid/kayak trip way back about a year ago....

Its all psychological.... LSD and its metabolites are pretty much all out of your system by the time your done tripping... 3 days and your not going to find anything that would be testable, much less in amounts that would cause you to trip....