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(LSD) First time: Possibly the worst circumstances ever

iChelsea

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So me, A(my best friend) and J take two doses of LSD each. We drive out to a place J says is pretty cool and walk into a forest. I lay down and look up and this is where my actual trip starts. In the clouds, there is Buddha's everywhere. I just keep talking about how the sky is a "fat asian dude"

So were in the forest and I remember just walking through the woods. I remember talking almost the entire time, but I have no idea what we were saying now. The most vivid part I remember is just walking and my entire visual field being composed of fractals. I had a bit of anxiety, but I was prepared and I just kept saying "This is the whole point of tripping, its fun" and I managed to calm myself down. When we are walking A keeps saying how it comes in "waves" and its almost too intense to handle.

Whenever I get scared trying a new drug, I always know I can talk to my best friend and she will calm me down. She is like my safety net. All of the sudden A has a seizure. I can't think and I don't know what to do. After what seemed like an eternity I called 911 but realized I couldn't even talk on the phone because I couldn't understand the operator. So J takes the phone and starts talking, and I remember to turn A on her side to stop her from choking on her vomit. After a few minutes, she stands up and looks COMPLETELY fucked up, like so out of it that its not even funny. She starts trying to walk around but is like tweaking out and bending over weird and scaring the complete shit out of me. I try to make her lay down but she won't listen to me so I try to help her. J is nowhere in sight. I look up the trail and see a random kid. I go up to him and just ask him if he can help me because my friend had a seizure and I am on drugs and I don't know what to do.

SO we both manage to help her walk and we finally get to J's car and there is an ambulance there. They start examining her and I am just tripping so hard my thoughts basically consist of single concepts like "police" "bad" "cell phone" At one point I asked the cop a completely retarded question like something about "Does her cellphone have any battery?" They keep asking me questions about her family phone numbers and stuff but I just can[t remember shit I am tripping so hard. They ask us if we have taken any drugs, and we say no. Eventually A admits she has taken some acid. Me and J are sitting in the car and I am so paranoid at this point and he keeps telling me to just deny it no matter what. The cops come to the car and keep asking us if we have taken any drugs and all I do is say "no" and look completely relaxed. I still have no idea how I managed to keep my composure at this point so many thoughts are racing through my head like "police" "evil" and I am so sure that I am going to jail and my life is completely fucked. Eventually J's mom came to get us, A went to the hospital. In the car J's mom asks me a few questions and her voice sounds completely flat and emotionless. J says I can just stay the night, but J's mom sounds hesistant. She asks if I would be comfortable, and I say it is fine, I just need to sleep.

So me and J are in his basement, I am still tripping balls. We just sit there and talk for a while. He tells me that is the hardest he has ever tripped off of two hits.

Now this last part is going to just sound crazy but I swear on my life that I wasn't just tripping, theres no way I hallucinated all this shit continuously and it was still there when I left and I was barely tripping.

First of all, J's parents kept somehow magically appearing in the basement. I was getting so confused, I kept hearing someone behind the wall right behind us and then they would come out of a door. Then they would go back up the the staircase that me and J came down. J kept saying really weird statements like "There's NO WAY they can test for it right" really loudly like he was trying to get someone to hear.

So J goes to bed and I am left alone in the basement. I start watching TV but I just cant focus on it. As i'm flipping through the channels i notice something strange. The television station corresponding with channel numbers keeps changing. And is on multiple channels. For example Disney channel is on channels 34, and 52. I also hearing this weird beeping every few minutes. And then the channels change, now Disney is on 14 and 45. WTF?!?! I think maybe I am just tripping but I test this multiple times. I also notice that the remote feels weird, and when I shake it it feels like there is something inside it.
There is also a bunch of tape, like the remote has been taped shut and then opened lots and lots of times. Kind of like there is a tape recorder in the remote.

I look around the room. There are all these weird pieces of paper placed in random positions. There are also lots of pieces of paper taped shut, and weird things people wouldn't leave out like passwords and usernames, drivers licenses.

At this point I conclude that I am in the house of a paranoid schizophrenic, or something similar.

I decide to look in the door that his parents kept coming out of. There is an empty chamber right behind where me and J were sitting with a single chair and a staircase leading upstairs.

I start thinking "Okay there is no way all this stuff is happening and the things I am seeing are consistent with someone who is completely paranoid" and realize maybe I am schizophrenic and hallucinating all this shit.


I pick up the phone to call my boyfriend because I need to talk to someone and I am starting to get scared that I'm crazy. I dial his number and hear the dial tine, but it is completely off. The distance between rings is too short, and the operators ladies voice sounds off. Also, its not even the right voicemail, I know my boyfriends voicemail by heart. So I keep calling but the same thing happens. I press the flash button and dial his number, and the call goes through, and the dial tone sounds right. He answers his phone and we start to talk. Suddenly I hear a noise like someone picking up the phone, and a door creaking. I just ignore it and talk to him about how I am scared that maybe I am going crazy but I don't wanna tell him about all the stuff in the house because I feel like someone is listening to the phone call. So me and my boyfriend talk all night and eventually it becomes morning and J's mom takes me home.


I know that all the stuff in the house sounds crazy, and its entirely possible that I was suffering a schizophrenic break or something, but I don't know, it just doesn't seem likely. I didn't feel scared like someone was out to get me or like i was in danger or anything, I just found all the stuff really weird. If anything I was scared that I was going crazy, which is the last thing on the mind of someone who is actually going crazy.

Anyways, I've tried tripping since then and my trips just seem to be getting worse and worse. I haven't even gotten close to tripping as hard as I did that day and my last trip was really bad I "realized I was God" and then I convinced myself that I was schizophrenic and I've had some pretty bad anxiety since then. I have random panic attacks where I am afraid that I am slowly becoming schizophrenic.

Do you think I will ever be able to trip again and have a good time? It seems like the first time I tripped was a lot more fun before my friend had a seizure, ever since then my trips haven't been the same.
 
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In a sense, LSD enables the user to see the world through the eyes of a schizophrenic. People often claim to figure out the universe, why things are things, etc. Schizophrenic people are retarded, but smart. They're eccentric, and constantly hallucinate friendlies and enemies their subconscience conjures. It's a blessing & a curse, but to go experience it temporarily is just awesome. Please stop seeing it as a bad thing, it's your negatory mindset that gives you panic attacks; you're reinforcing your brains chemistry to reject it's now familiarised substance, LSD. I apologize in advance if you don't understand. I'm very high atm.
 
So it was like a schizophrenic break? I dont know, I've never heard of someone realizing they were having a schizophrenic break in the middle of their schizophrenic break. I guess I'm just really smart? o_O?
 
I was trying to break down schizophrenia so you can understand it, not be afraid. Just stop taking LSD if you get visuals when sober, more LSD makes the effects last days-permanent. I would'nt want to sit in a straightjacket with spiders laying eggs in my scrotum, do you?
 
I find these kinds of thoughts completely normal in a difficult environment. You no longer feel safe, are worried about your ability to function, etc. These thoughts and moments come during any trip where you're afraid of losing control, you're worried of losing your mind and so you do anything you can to reassure yourself. Counter-intuitively, the only way to deal with this is to *trust* yourself. You arranged a space with people you trust, so never surrender the fact that if you simply do *nothing* then you are safe. Who cares if you're a competent decision maker when you can always just make no decision? When you get past all the worrying and let yourself sink back into the depths you can pass through whatever issues weigh on your mind to a catharsis of acceptance and bliss. I promise. If you're willing to remain still and drive forward, without reassurance, accepting fear, you'll figure out why you haven't been tripping as hard and why you have been so frightened. You were fighting something, without even realizing it.

Just my opinion.
 
I was trying to break down schizophrenia so you can understand it, not be afraid. Just stop taking LSD if you get visuals when sober, more LSD makes the effects last days-permanent. I would'nt want to sit in a straightjacket with spiders laying eggs in my scrotum, do you?

I don't remember saying anything about visuals when I was sober.

I find these kinds of thoughts completely normal in a difficult environment. You no longer feel safe, are worried about your ability to function, etc. These thoughts and moments come during any trip where you're afraid of losing control, you're worried of losing your mind and so you do anything you can to reassure yourself. You arranged a space with people you trust, so never surrender the fact that if you simply do *nothing* then you are safe.

The thing is, these thoughts weren't just coming from being afraid of losing control or losing my mind. The environment I was in was completely fucking weird. I felt like I was being spied on by his parents or something, it was just a completely uncomfortable environment and I'm pretty certain that something really weird was going on in that house. I could have just been tripping but I felt fine just watching tv and chilling out until I started noticing all the weird shit in the room. Its not like I started having bad thoughts, and then started noticing the weird shit.

I think part of the reason I keep having bad trips is because I was sort of nervous to try it in the first place but I really wanted to experience it. Once I tried it I felt really confident that I wasn't going to get scared, and I was really enjoying it. I was just going with the trip but then all that shit happened with the seizure and my mind kind of created a block for it like "you can't let your guard down with this stuff or something really bad could happen." Honestly I can't think of much else going wrong, having to talk to those cops was one of the scariest moments ever I thought my life was over and I was going to jail.

I guess I just have to work on constantly reassuring myself that I'm going to be fine, and that I've some really bad stuff happen to me during my trips and I still came back fine so I'm obviously going to be okay. Theres no reason to stress out about something that serious until you are absolutely sure of it and the anxiety is just my body's counter-objective way of trying to protect itself.
 
It seems probable that your friend's parents were keeping an eye on you, given the earlier events. Your emotions have a way of impacting your perception of reality on LSD. You could feel upset and frightened, but instead of just feeling it inside your body the world that reflected back to you is upset and frightened too. I think the best thing for you would be to take a break from psychedelics for a while, until you feel grounded and your fears are resolved. You stand the chance of reliving your bad trip until you work it through.

Oh just edited to add that it seems like you handled yourself quite well given your circumstances. You probably felt like you acted worse than you actually did.
 
In a sense, LSD enables the user to see the world through the eyes of a schizophrenic.

I am going to quote this when people ask me about LSD. I find it to be 100% accurate with my experience. I have only done LSD once, but it was enough for me, I had an experience similar to OP's and felt I was God. A year or two later I tried mushrooms and the same thing happened, I have since sworn off any hallucinogens, including cannabis (which triggered this same thought patterns a couple times).

I know some "psychonauts" talk almost as being elite, and that only "weak minds" can't handle hallucinogens, but it's simply not the truth OP. Hallucinogens are not for everyone and there's nothing wrong with that.

edit- I'm not referring to any 'psychonauts' in this thread, or even this board.
 
I also notice that the remote feels weird, and when I shake it it feels like there is something inside it.
There is also a bunch of tape, like the remote has been taped shut and then opened lots and lots of times. Kind of like there is a tape recorder in the remote.

That sums it up. You were tripping. I wouldn't call it a schizophrenic break because you were questioning your sanity so much. A full on schizophrenic break is much more intense, people thinking they're God going on week long quests. What you experienced is just the weirdness of tripping.
 
Worst trip circumstances ever!

SOunds like you made the best of a bad situation though.

How did your friend w/ the seizure turn out? is she okay? do they know what caused it?
Did she get arrested ?
 
I find these kinds of thoughts completely normal in a difficult environment. You no longer feel safe, are worried about your ability to function, etc. These thoughts and moments come during any trip where you're afraid of losing control, you're worried of losing your mind and so you do anything you can to reassure yourself. Counter-intuitively, the only way to deal with this is to *trust* yourself. You arranged a space with people you trust, so never surrender the fact that if you simply do *nothing* then you are safe. Who cares if you're a competent decision maker when you can always just make no decision? When you get past all the worrying and let yourself sink back into the depths you can pass through whatever issues weigh on your mind to a catharsis of acceptance and bliss. I promise. If you're willing to remain still and drive forward, without reassurance, accepting fear, you'll figure out why you haven't been tripping as hard and why you have been so frightened. You were fighting something, without even realizing it.

Just my opinion.

I cannot thank you enough for posting this. These are really really good words.
 
That's funny, I've said for a long time now that LSD/psychedelic drugs in general allow you to experience schizophrenia for a short time. Except in the case of one of my best friends, who, after tripping mushrooms the first time, had a schizophrenic break and is now completely crazy. He had latent schizophrenia, it ran in his family. This is something anyone should take into consideration before ever taking a psychedelic for the first time.
 
I had a very similar experience. My brother had a seizure, I was on something like 4 hits and 2 points of Molly. Well surly enough I lost it..hard. I thought life wasent real I was the only one alive people were just figments of my imagination. It sucked I thought my brother died I was a wreck.
But anyway I was skeptical about tripping ever again but I have tripped sense both times were great. I had to face my fears. That's how I like to deal with things I guess...
But if you don't want to trip don't trip if you want to do it with positive intentions.
What exactly caused the seizure? Withdrawal? Or just to much going through your friends head from the L?
Be careful, be safe have fun..but its not all fun and games which I'm sure you realized.
Don't let your self trick you. Chin up life is a journey :)
 
So it was like a schizophrenic break? I dont know, I've never heard of someone realizing they were having a schizophrenic break in the middle of their schizophrenic break. I guess I'm just really smart? o_O?

People with schizophrenic psychosis have delusions and aren't aware that they're psychotic. It may be hard to convince them that they're really having delusions.
You however immediately recognized the schizophrenic symptoms as some kind of defect in your mind. I don't think it means you're smart, on the contrary: why didn't you know that psychedelic drugs can cause symptoms similar to schizophrenia and bad trips with paranoia etc? But you're not crazy. Though you were obviously tripping bad because you thought you were going crazy. That's not unusual on psychedelic drugs. Many users may trip bad at some point because of their fear about going crazy. That's what tripsitters are there for. They will reassure you that it's just a trip and that it will be over at some point.

I think the experience with your friend having seizures might have been traumatic. But I remember when a friend had seizures in the middle of a city while I was tripping and this had no significant impact on my later trips.
But you write that you've had some pretty bad anxiety since then, so maybe you should stay away from psychedelics for some time. Another psychedelic experience might help you with the anxiety, enabling you to have even better experiences than your first one. But it might also make it worse.
Maybe you should be able to deal with your panic attacks before you try psychedelics again. And visit a psychiatrist if your panic attacks don't go away.
 
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