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LSD despite anxiety?

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Mjean

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Hi guys,

I've been wanting to try LSD for a long time now and it seems like the opportunity might present itself soon.
My fear though is both my personality and my previous experiences.
I'm a very overthinking person in general. That likely lead me to have several bad experiences with cannabis... It makes me way too aware of the changes in my body caused by the drug, and I suddenly pay a lot of attention to my breathing, heart rate, feel like my throat is closing etc. That makes me totally paranoid and is the reason I cannot enjoy weed. Once or twice the same thing happened with alcohol. MDMA and Ecstasy on the other hand were great experiences for me... The MDMA come up was a little tricky because of the increase in heart rate and almost triggered a panic attack, but that passed soon enough.
My fear now is that since LSD obviously is going to change the way I experience the world and my body, I might panic again. What do you guys think? Awful idea, or manageable? I'm not too afraid of the introspection aspect of a trip (I am in treatment for depression also, but of course would only trip on a good day where I'm doing fine), just of me panicking because I suddenly "feel" different.
 
Well really you must come to accept the way these chemicals cause to your physical self. Simply understand that in 99% of the cases, especially with a single psychedelic chemical taken, you are 100% safe and any of the weirdness is in your head. Its quite common for people to begin to overfocus on things like that. Even though I can be a terribly anxious person at times i've found this to never really effect me because I know its simply the chemicals workings. LSD plays very nice with most people, its unbelievably strong but at the same time it has few side effects, a negligible body load, and the come down is like a walk in the park compared to others. You should also make sure you have things around to distract at the least or to actually calm yourself, like a close friend or something thats meaningful to you. You could even make sure to have benzos around in case things get to hairy, but be careful as those with serious anxiety can find benzos a bit to hard to resist. If anything occurs just attempt to slowly quite your mind and when its toned down, simply remind yourself you;ve taken a chemical and that will effect you/your body but that you are perfectly safe if you've taken the right precautions!

P.S. Welcome to BL!
 
Or maybe just a really light hit til you get the hang of it. Some people like to trip light, some heavy, there is no right or wrong way to trip!
 
I have awful anxiety, had been on and abusing Benzos for years to deal with it. I can say that the only thing that will make your trip bad is you. if you are feeling anxious about it than dont do it. Ive taken LSD hundreds of times and am now at the point where i conquor my anxiety when going into a trip. Realize that it will only be a bad experience if you think it can be. LSD creates the most wonderful changes in your perception and of self and the world if you let it. It can be a bit daunting coming up for the first time but once you settle in it is fantastic. Also the other key is setting, if you in a warm environment with people who are close friends and the music is good (or nonexistant not exactly a necessity but its always nice) than youll feed off the vibrations in that room. But remember LSD has been widely used recreationally for about 50 years and it isnt going anywhere so perhaps just buy some and sit on it until you feel the time is right. I just came off of 6 months without mushrooms lsd 2c-x's due to my anxiety from getting off benzos but lately ive been able to take copious amounts of these drugs again and its been wonderful. Keep in mind though that these drugs arent for everyone and do extensive research into the psycological effects and decide if that is what you want before ingesting
 
I can't handle weed either, I'm a depressive, who is prone to paranoia but I love LSD. In your case, you might have the worst panic attack you've ever had in your life, you might have a wonderous life changing experience, it might just be pretty neat, it may be a let-down, or it could be all of those and more. If you do it, I'd just have some benzos and a friend who knows how to deal with panicky you - who normally doesn't lead to panicky you. The bodily sensations can be pretty startling (I tend to feel like I'm neck deep in warm water, and then start to merge with inanimate objects, damn common for me) but you won't die, and make sure your friend knows that, cause you might forget.
 
Hi, I react the same like you. Often I cannot manage cannabis or alcohol(high dose); my thoughts somehow turn clear again and I feel like there is a fight in my head against the drug.
I then tried DXM and DXM+DPH. It should be come a DXM trip as the one before which was low dosed, but I took too much DPH and I went into a low-middle dosed DPH trip. It was like being in horry movie but I didn't care thanks to the apathy DPH brings(flying ghost spiders, the floor covered in thick dust in which I could write glowing signs, dots moving down wood, falling down to the floor being cockroaches that fell on each other. 100% real motions and sounds(!) despite I knew it was the DPH. I looked away, looked back; everything was still there - it even moved the time I did not look). Got a HPPD from that and kinds of 'flashbacks', but different story.

That being said, I was very unsure about doing drugs anymore. I am happy I finally did 2C-C. The coming up triggered the old fear but then it moved away and I was happy watching the wall and other stuff. I even felt better after that. The link in my head "drugs <-> DPH" is removed now. I also had some benzos available, that made me brave. Long story short, I also have fear on cannabis and alcohol (and other stuff), but I did not experience this on my first "real" psychedelic 2C-C except during the come-up(therefor I did nasal the first times). I was happy instead.
:-)
 
Fairly important - when you say you're getting treated for depression, does that mean you're on antidepressants? If you're on a medication from the SSRI class, it will (ALMOST certainly) prevent you from tripping, just FYI.
 
Have a benzo (Xanax, Valium, Ativan, etc) on hand "just in case". Even if you don't use it, just knowing you have it will help prevent freakouts.

I've successfully tripped despite anxiety. Not on acid, but on lots of other weird things. For me, bad trips aren't all that anxiety-producing...just uncomfortable. YMMV.
 
IamMe90 said:
Fairly important - when you say you're getting treated for depression, does that mean you're on antidepressants? If you're on a medication from the SSRI class, it will (ALMOST certainly) prevent you from tripping, just FYI.
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I've tripped on SSRIs just fine. They usually don't prevent tripping, they just dull the trip somewhat. See here Bluelight Wiki - SSRIs and Hallucinogens

On a sidenote, I wonder why under mirtazapine that page says "Hallucinogens seem to be MUCH stronger in combination with mirtazapine". It acts more like full stop for psychedelics, and looking at pharmacology of mirtazapine, that kind of reaction would seem more logical.
 
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