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Lysergamides LSD and strange bladder pain

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Has anyone else experienced strong, persistent bladder pain while doing LSD? This happens to me every time, even when microdosing. I'll begin feeling minor discomfort and then a few hours in it turns quite painful with a constant urge to pee, but where nothing comes out.

The first time I tried LSD, this got so painful I had to go to the emergency room and the pain persisted for many weeks afterwards. I mistakenly attributed it to ketamine, which I did the day before. However, I haven't touched K since, and LSD still has the same effect every time I do it, without fail.
It's getting quite bothersome, seeing as I love everything else about acid and want to continue experimenting.

And before anyone asks, no, I don't think this is merely the psychedelic experience making me think my bladder hurts. The pain is quite real and very physical, even in low, barely perceptible doses.

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would be due to the vasocontriction i have felt this on some trips in the past. its due to impure LSD. Find a higher quality source and bodily discomfort disappears
 
fear of ketamine bladder issues becomes experience while tripping.
 
Could be related to nutrition. I used to have intense bladder pain during the come up due to bad nutrition.
 
It could point to impurities/adulterants in the LSD. From what I know its not a usual occurence but that doesnt mean its "wrong" or indicative of something. It could be psychosomatic ie you push into the reality the ailment of bladder issues. Or, like mentioned, it could be the LSD which might need analysing.

I get bad wind from acid. One time I held in my farts for a full trip and afterward when we had come down, I decided to let rip on public transport (toilets of a train) it was like something died in me. No bladder issues though but sometimes I feel cramps but I think this can be a product of the experience itself and tightness in the body from the trip. I sometimes realize I am tensing and sometimes rigid and this is then felt with discomfort in the body, until I relax, especially with strong DMT trips.
 
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. :)

Regarding purity - I did test my LSD with both Erlich and Marquis test kits which showed it to be pure, though technically more tests are needed to completely verify this, I suppose. What adulterants are typically added to LSD? And why the fuck do dealers even bother?

Regarding nutrition - I'm very healthy. I eat next to no junk food, lots of vegetables and up until recently exercised all the time. I don't think it's that, either. Thanks for the input, though, healthy eating is definitely an underrated factor.

Regarding my gender - Nope, I'm male.
 
Oh, and regarding the fear of K induced bladder issues - I definitely considered this, but often the bladder pain will persist for days or even weeks after tripping, which to me indicated it is something physical. And they're there even if I'm not in the least bit afraid of them before doing acid.
 
are you sure it is pain? i always had to piss a lot on LSD and could really feel my bladder

are you sure you are taking plain old lysergic acid diethylamide?
 
you need to get needlepoint LSD. White fluff gives me bladder pains 100% of the time. There are no adulterants to the LSD its just how careful the chemist was in the sythnesis to purify it
 
you need to get needlepoint LSD. White fluff gives me bladder pains 100% of the time. There are no adulterants to the LSD its just how careful the chemist was in the sythnesis to purify it
honestly i've heard needlepoint is usually just marketting, and i don't think 'whitefluff' are one of the common like 4 or 5 terms to refer to different purity of LSD
 
honestly i've heard needlepoint is usually just marketting, and i don't think 'whitefluff' are one of the common like 4 or 5 terms to refer to different purity of LSD
Somewhat this is true – that they're marketing terms. However, the terminology originated with the Grateful Dead Family chemists and the color spectrum concept comes from the practice of purifying LSD via liquid phase chromatography to separate out iso-LSD, lumi-LSD, nor-LSD, and whatever other by-product impurities may be present. The lightest, cleanest fraction gets syphoned off from the rest via a needle and syringe, hence the name "Needlepoint". White, Silver, Cream, Beige, Amber, Lavender… yeah it's a bit of a silly concept, but it's fun to think about nonetheless, and there's certainly a correlation between this and quality LSD. To @TripSitterNZ 's point: having really clean acid really does minimize virtually all body load discomfort. Dirty acid is just rough on the nervous system, ya know?
 
needlepoint refers to high quality LSD that is 99.5% as a minimum or more. this stuff should have zero body load if it even has body load it was never needlepoint and the guy lied or vendor.

white fluff refers to 95% LSD. as it goes down every 1% the worse the body load gets.
 
Regarding purity - I did test my LSD with both Erlich and Marquis test kits which showed it to be pure, though technically more tests are needed to completely verify this, I suppose. What adulterants are typically added to LSD? And why the fuck do dealers even bother?
These reagent tests do not prove the purity of LSD. They only prove the existence of the substances they are sensitive too. Drugs such as DOx, NBOMe, fentanyl, mescaline derivatives, triptamines, cathinones, and synthetic cannabinoids have all been found on ‘LSD’ blotters. Though not commonly so.

LSD does not react with Marquis. However it will react to show nBOMe drugs and DOx drugs. Ehrlich reacts pink-purple to every indole based substance including lysergamides (LSD) and tryptamines (DMT). It goes to pink-blue for psilocybin. It also reacts for several LSD analogues and does not differentiate clearly between them.
 
Has anyone else experienced strong, persistent bladder pain while doing LSD? This happens to me every time, even when microdosing. I'll begin feeling minor discomfort and then a few hours in it turns quite painful with a constant urge to pee, but where nothing comes out.

The first time I tried LSD, this got so painful I had to go to the emergency room and the pain persisted for many weeks afterwards. I mistakenly attributed it to ketamine, which I did the day before. However, I haven't touched K since, and LSD still has the same effect every time I do it, without fail.
It's getting quite bothersome, seeing as I love everything else about acid and want to continue experimenting.

And before anyone asks, no, I don't think this is merely the psychedelic experience making me think my bladder hurts. The pain is quite real and very physical, even in low, barely perceptible doses.

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Yes. To start off I am the author of this sticky thread regarding bladder damage and ketamime:


I was a true poly drug user (not alot of stimulants but heavy alcohol and dissos and RC use).

My bladder damage was likely caused by dissociatives. But I will tell you that when I had that the turning point of completely blowing out my bladder where it was never the same again and I never drank, took psychedelics, dissociatives, or stimulants again....was caused by an LSD trip.

Prior to that trip I had bladder issues but they would come and go with my dissociatives use. I was never a regular user of pure psychedelics...much more of an empathogen (MDMA) and dissociative user.

However I did LSD and my bladder exploded (figuratively) and the pain was some of the worst I've ever had in life and lasted months. I had not done dissociatives in weeks and was feeling normal prior. My bladder was never the same again after that LSD trip.

The diseasenis called interstitial cystitis (IC) or ketamime cystitis (KC). They look the same to doctors with cameras in the bladder and are the result of the immune system attacking the bladder. Ppl that have never done drugs get this horrible bladder disease too. The cascades of immune responses cause by a drug as powerful as lsd are not fully defined. Nobody can prove lsd agonized that 5ht 2a receptor amd dopamine receptors in a vacuums and there are not all kinds of downstream effects. We have no clue off all the downstream cascades and cytokine/ stress response when an experience as powerful as lsd is experienced. Lsd is safe for healthy people but it's downstream pharmacology isn't understood for shit.

It's well accepted among the IC community that psychedelic drugs, stimulants, and dissocistives aggravate IC.

You may have IC from natural causes or from damage to the bladder causes directly from caustic drugs or immune attacks on your bladder caused by drugs or just your natural immune system..

This is a very serious painful and life altering disease with no cure or good treatments. If you have it, drug induced or not, stay far away from psychs and stimulants.

1st order of business is for doctors to rule out a UTI. If this pain you describe is chronic and intense or mild even it is textbook IC in my opinion. I'm a PhD in chemistry and have read a quite a bit of the science behind the mechanisms ofnthis disease in both drug users and no users.

Go to r/interstitialcystitis on reddit they will tell you to stay the fuck away from psychedelics. The cascades of immune and cytokine responses unleashed from powerful psychedelic trips are complex and not even fully characterized.

Talk to moderator xorkoth. His GF has IC has can't tolerate psychedelic even in microcose as bladder pain increases.

I'm not blaming lsd for the damage..im.blamimg dissociatives but LSD will blow IC symptoms up big time just like eating very spicy food or extreme stress are also known to do.
 
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honestly i've heard needlepoint is usually just marketting, and i don't think 'whitefluff' are one of the common like 4 or 5 terms to refer to different purity of LSD
There is def different purities of lsd out.

A good friend of mine always sends a few tabs of each bunch for purity test.

Needlepoint is when there is barely any iso-lsd or other crap left after the synth.

I have tried several different needlepoint lsd in the past 5years.
The ones my friend showed verified lab results from were spot on.
He sent 3different very fresh samples which were all supposed to be needlepoint.
2 of them were pure enough but one was slightly less.

Most people who tried them prefered the purest batches.
As far as i know they were all supposed to be grateful dead needlepoint.

So there is alot of fake needlepoint around.
It costs more for a reason.
 
Which impurity is anything like as powerful as lsd? Isnt it like someone at the top pissing in the niagra falls and you standing at the bottom opening your mouth and saying "that motherfuckers been eating asparagus"
 
Which impurity is anything like as powerful as lsd? Isnt it like someone at the top pissing in the niagra falls and you standing at the bottom opening your mouth and saying "that motherfuckers been eating asparagus"

Do you mean what could trigger his bladder?

Im honestly not sure, my guess that is that something in it could make the vasoconstriction worse.
Generally random muscle or joint pain is a common side effect from dirty acid.
Along with a more cloudy headspace.

However there are many other factors outside of the substance that matters.
 
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