Has anyone else experienced strong, persistent bladder pain while doing LSD? This happens to me every time, even when microdosing. I'll begin feeling minor discomfort and then a few hours in it turns quite painful with a constant urge to pee, but where nothing comes out.
The first time I tried LSD, this got so painful I had to go to the emergency room and the pain persisted for many weeks afterwards. I mistakenly attributed it to ketamine, which I did the day before. However, I haven't touched K since, and LSD still has the same effect every time I do it, without fail.
It's getting quite bothersome, seeing as I love everything else about acid and want to continue experimenting.
And before anyone asks, no, I don't think this is merely the psychedelic experience making me think my bladder hurts. The pain is quite real and very physical, even in low, barely perceptible doses.
Yes. To start off I am the author of this sticky thread regarding bladder damage and ketamime:
EDIT: The first thing I want to add to this thread is that if you have any odd sensation whatsoever in your bladder, difficulty with strong stream, or pressure. STOP YOU ARE LIKELY DOING PERMANENT DAMAGE 2nd: If you are having pain, the most important thing to halt it is to switch to this...
www.bluelight.org
I was a true poly drug user (not alot of stimulants but heavy alcohol and dissos and RC use).
My bladder damage was likely caused by dissociatives. But I will tell you that when I had that the turning point of completely blowing out my bladder where it was never the same again and I never drank, took psychedelics, dissociatives, or stimulants again....was caused by an LSD trip.
Prior to that trip I had bladder issues but they would come and go with my dissociatives use. I was never a regular user of pure psychedelics...much more of an empathogen (MDMA) and dissociative user.
However I did LSD and my bladder exploded (figuratively) and the pain was some of the worst I've ever had in life and lasted months. I had not done dissociatives in weeks and was feeling normal prior. My bladder was never the same again after that LSD trip.
The diseasenis called interstitial cystitis (IC) or ketamime cystitis (KC). They look the same to doctors with cameras in the bladder and are the result of the immune system attacking the bladder. Ppl that have never done drugs get this horrible bladder disease too. The cascades of immune responses cause by a drug as powerful as lsd are not fully defined. Nobody can prove lsd agonized that 5ht 2a receptor amd dopamine receptors in a vacuums and there are not all kinds of downstream effects. We have no clue off all the downstream cascades and cytokine/ stress response when an experience as powerful as lsd is experienced. Lsd is safe for healthy people but it's downstream pharmacology isn't understood for shit.
It's well accepted among the IC community that psychedelic drugs, stimulants, and dissocistives aggravate IC.
You may have IC from natural causes or from damage to the bladder causes directly from caustic drugs or immune attacks on your bladder caused by drugs or just your natural immune system..
This is a very serious painful and life altering disease with no cure or good treatments. If you have it, drug induced or not, stay far away from psychs and stimulants.
1st order of business is for doctors to rule out a UTI. If this pain you describe is chronic and intense or mild even it is textbook IC in my opinion. I'm a PhD in chemistry and have read a quite a bit of the science behind the mechanisms ofnthis disease in both drug users and no users.
Go to r/interstitialcystitis on reddit they will tell you to stay the fuck away from psychedelics. The cascades of immune and cytokine responses unleashed from powerful psychedelic trips are complex and not even fully characterized.
Talk to moderator xorkoth. His GF has IC has can't tolerate psychedelic even in microcose as bladder pain increases.
I'm not blaming lsd for the damage..im.blamimg dissociatives but LSD will blow IC symptoms up big time just like eating very spicy food or extreme stress are also known to do.