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lsa a/b extraction

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stretch2011

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So I have been doing an experiment with morning glory seeds and want to know what the results are that I got out of it. steps 1. wash 1lbs seeds with water, let dry, the grind. 2. place in half g jar and let soak with acetone. strain and repeat with 91% iso alcohol. 3. place acetone and iso in a 5g stainless steel pot and evap. when its almost. All the way evaporated mix with distilled water/tartariac acid. what's left is scrapped out with a razor blade and naptha. 4. Place distilled water/ naptha in a mason jar. add in little bit.more water till around .4l add in more naptha. 5. swirl around. 6. pull naptha off he top with a syringe into a separate jar. 7. *swim forgot* add in naoh in the pure naptha solution and also in the water/naptha solution. Results: in the separated naptha there is naptha and a large amount of white precipitate. in the water/ naptha mix there is, bottom to top,bright yellow stuff, dirty water, a layer of crude do to pour filtering, naptha, more.bright yellow around the jar. also more.white precipitate through the mixture. Is the lsa the white precipitate and/or the bright yellow stuff? I know I did some unessecary steps and poor technique
 
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you are aware that LSA is only soluble in polar solvents, and really best soluble in simple water? what are you doing with the naptha? that's a non-polar solvent. the problem with natural products extraction is that you will end up extracting all kinds of stuff and it's really hard to separate out any one thing, especially when the amount of that thing is very small. how much LSA do you think is left over after all this chemical manhandling? why not just eat the seeds straight up and you'll know for sure that you're getting 100% of the LSA that's in them.
 
Thanks for the info. and yes there has been some.unessecary "chemical handling". like i said I've done some things that wasn't needed. the non polar solvent was used to take out more of the junk, BC lsa is polar and that's all i want then the non polar solvent will take out what the polar solvents won't. also you use non polar solvents and polar solvents in an acid base reaction. ANYWAYS... The experiment has continued. the solutions have separated in the quart with naptha there is little amber liquid. then a white salt. a pinkish salt. then naptha *bottom to top*. in the water jar there was some precipitate, an amber liquid, water, and green gunk *plant matter*. also from top to bottom . the water was separated into another jar. added in some clean naptha, there was a salt btw the naptha and water i think tartariac .then shaken. settled. then alittle bit of naoh was added. it turned yellow. then the water turned the same amber color.

Oh on another note. the procedure started with 1lbs or seeds. there are on are on avg 25 seeds per gram. each seed on avg contains .002g lsa. do the math that's over 160grams of lsa in one theoretical extraction .
 
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Less than that, about 0.04% actually.

Please be aware that the crew might merge this thread with the centralized extraction thread, previously linked to. That is at their whim basically...
 
Im not sure what the exact number is actually. i just seen the .002 on the internet. this is my delima; is the bright yellow the lsa in the polar solvent the lsa, or is it the precipitate in the non polar? id whether not injest lye. thank you for the heads up
 
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