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Lowering Opiate tolerance with coke

Str8Facts

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I have been on and off opiates for past 10 years switching with subs but this past 5 years cant seem to switch back to subs.has anyone tried lowering their opiate tolerance with small coke use? trying to get down low enough for a smooth transition onto suboxone but a year has gone by and i keep failing so wondering if maybe doing some coke during the day will take my mind off the opiates so i can hopefully do less. Iv done coke for years and never felt addiction to it but honestly at this point i wudnt mind trading any other substance addiction ..Opiates are ruining my life.Any info greatly appreciated thnx!
 
Honestly I normally give what most wouldn’t call sound advice and tell people about my success or at least partial success about quitting one substance by using another one, sometimes at the cost of switching addictions(but not usually). But opiates to stims for some reason does not work for me, at all. I tried it in my teen years, tried it in my 20s and just recently tried it in my 30s, just for subs this time. Every single time I just end up with the same ole opi addiction with a heavy dependence of a stim thrown in.

Tried it with coke, tried it with adderall, tried with Molly/Ecstasy(with tramadol of all drugs). They were all combined with a tramadol addiction at one point actually, I’m lucky as fuck I didn’t end up with serotonin syndrome at some point. The most current stim is meth and while I can say I’ve been off subs for a few days now it’s only because my hook up went MIA. Been randomly finding pieces of sub and baggies with subutex powder all over the house so sometimes I’ve been having it 😂 meth dependence and opiate withdrawal is one hell of a ride I’ll tell you that.

I don’t know your background so can’t say for sure coke will ruin your life more than opiates, but I can see that scenario going up in flames real fast if you have shit self control as most of us addicts tend to. Personally when I do coke it just makes me wanna feel fuckin GOOD despite how great I already feel. I’ve done by far the most dangerous and reckless drug/alcohol combinations while under the influence of it, and while I personally have never developed a real addiction to it, it just made my opiate and alcohol intake even worse than they already were. As well as pretty much whatever else I could toss down my gullet or put up my nose. For some reason my dick works great on amphetamines but never has on coke so I gotta fill them pleasure receptors somehow ya know lol

If you think coke would actually take your mind off opiates rather than make that voice in the back of your skull dig into you until you cop then I would say go for it, only you truly know yourself. But if you’re anything like me it’s honestly a bad idea. I haven’t been able to do coke “responsibly” ever, and by that I mean just coke. I’m a crazy motherfucker but hide it well, even on drugs like meth that tend to really bring peoples mental instabilities out. But on blow there is no containing it. The few times I tried to substitute opiates with it went worse than anything else, the worst probably being when I did most of a quarter oz to myself over a few days, barely ate and drank nothing but whiskey and ice beers and did H for the first time since rehab then decided to drive to the city to pick up a large package from my boy living down there and passed the fuck out driving my cousins car less than 2 miles from his house. Only about 265 miles from my destination and managed to dodge enough trees while unconscious to make it far enough into the woods where nobody ever saw me. Could have been dead and nobody would’ve known for don’t even know how long cause it’s posted property that nobody ever goes on until deer season. Woke up the next day, texted my cousin that his car was wrecked and upside down and shut my phone off and walked home. Dude still doesn’t talk to me to this day lol, can’t say I blame him. Pretty sure he tried to press charges against me but I don’t think he knew where the car was and I wasn’t exactly an easy person to find back then.

Sorry for the novel, but in short I’d say no. Maybe my experience with coke is the opposite of the norm, maybe it’s not, really don’t know. But it makes me do crazy shit and when I did it with friends we’d do crazy shit together. IMO almost any other drug would be better. The only good thing I can say about my coke use is my ability to stop using it when I run out, and if it wasn’t for the fact that I realize it makes me go fuckin nuts(the price doesn’t help either) I probably would have done it a lot more.

Good luck man. Hopefully it’s not fent you’re doing, stay safe.
 
Honestly I normally give what most wouldn’t call sound advice and tell people about my success or at least partial success about quitting one substance by using another one, sometimes at the cost of switching addictions(but not usually). But opiates to stims for some reason does not work for me, at all. I tried it in my teen years, tried it in my 20s and just recently tried it in my 30s, just for subs this time. Every single time I just end up with the same ole opi addiction with a heavy dependence of a stim thrown in.

Tried it with coke, tried it with adderall, tried with Molly/Ecstasy(with tramadol of all drugs). They were all combined with a tramadol addiction at one point actually, I’m lucky as fuck I didn’t end up with serotonin syndrome at some point. The most current stim is meth and while I can say I’ve been off subs for a few days now it’s only because my hook up went MIA. Been randomly finding pieces of sub and baggies with subutex powder all over the house so sometimes I’ve been having it 😂 meth dependence and opiate withdrawal is one hell of a ride I’ll tell you that.

I don’t know your background so can’t say for sure coke will ruin your life more than opiates, but I can see that scenario going up in flames real fast if you have shit self control as most of us addicts tend to. Personally when I do coke it just makes me wanna feel fuckin GOOD despite how great I already feel. I’ve done by far the most dangerous and reckless drug/alcohol combinations while under the influence of it, and while I personally have never developed a real addiction to it, it just made my opiate and alcohol intake even worse than they already were. As well as pretty much whatever else I could toss down my gullet or put up my nose. For some reason my dick works great on amphetamines but never has on coke so I gotta fill them pleasure receptors somehow ya know lol

If you think coke would actually take your mind off opiates rather than make that voice in the back of your skull dig into you until you cop then I would say go for it, only you truly know yourself. But if you’re anything like me it’s honestly a bad idea. I haven’t been able to do coke “responsibly” ever, and by that I mean just coke. I’m a crazy motherfucker but hide it well, even on drugs like meth that tend to really bring peoples mental instabilities out. But on blow there is no containing it. The few times I tried to substitute opiates with it went worse than anything else, the worst probably being when I did most of a quarter oz to myself over a few days, barely ate and drank nothing but whiskey and ice beers and did H for the first time since rehab then decided to drive to the city to pick up a large package from my boy living down there and passed the fuck out driving my cousins car less than 2 miles from his house. Only about 265 miles from my destination and managed to dodge enough trees while unconscious to make it far enough into the woods where nobody ever saw me. Could have been dead and nobody would’ve known for don’t even know how long cause it’s posted property that nobody ever goes on until deer season. Woke up the next day, texted my cousin that his car was wrecked and upside down and shut my phone off and walked home. Dude still doesn’t talk to me to this day lol, can’t say I blame him. Pretty sure he tried to press charges against me but I don’t think he knew where the car was and I wasn’t exactly an easy person to find back then.

Sorry for the novel, but in short I’d say no. Maybe my experience with coke is the opposite of the norm, maybe it’s not, really don’t know. But it makes me do crazy shit and when I did it with friends we’d do crazy shit together. IMO almost any other drug would be better. The only good thing I can say about my coke use is my ability to stop using it when I run out, and if it wasn’t for the fact that I realize it makes me go fuckin nuts(the price doesn’t help either) I probably would have done it a lot more.

Good luck man. Hopefully it’s not fent you’re doing, stay safe.
It can work first 2 days you have to take load along with lope to stop shits.
By day three the anxiety is so bad that you do a line and ok fo 2 mind then anxiety I reckon throw in pregab and small amount of clonzepam might be able to but then I end up addicted to heroin and coke and pregabs never worked for me
 
It can work first 2 days you have to take load along with lope to stop shits.
By day three the anxiety is so bad that you do a line and ok fo 2 mind then anxiety I reckon throw in pregab and small amount of clonzepam might be able to but then I end up addicted to heroin and coke and pregabs never worked for me
That’s been my biggest problem with no subs + doing meth, especially when I do find some sub and I basically set the WD back to square one or close to it. I’ve shit more in the last 5 days than I have in the last 20 years 😂

It’s been some years since I’ve done coke so I don’t remember how bad the shits are, but think I’d remember if they were this bad. Meth opiate WD shits are no joke

But yeah, I’ve managed to quit opiates by switching to alcohol and smoking weed a few times but it never ends up being enough and I go back after some time. Sometimes a few weeks, sometimes a few months. It’s been my most successful at being opiate clean but it’s never permanent. Stimulants just don’t work at all though
 
That’s been my biggest problem with no subs + doing meth, especially when I do find some sub and I basically set the WD back to square one or close to it. I’ve shit more in the last 5 days than I have in the last 20 years 😂

It’s been some years since I’ve done coke so I don’t remember how bad the shits are, but think I’d remember if they were this bad. Meth opiate WD shits are no joke

But yeah, I’ve managed to quit opiates by switching to alcohol and smoking weed a few times but it never ends up being enough and I go back after some time. Sometimes a few weeks, sometimes a few months. It’s been my most successful at being opiate clean but it’s never permanent. Stimulants just don’t work at all though
I've quite opiates about 20 detox at hone it just dont last I prescribed subs they gather dust bit I wonder if a quick r day run with either subs or the patches then jump but its staying of I just accepted im a lifer until I get sick of the slavery to opiates then detox
 
I don’t know your background so can’t say for sure coke will ruin your life more than opiates, but I can see that scenario going up in flames real fast if you have shit self control as most of us addicts tend to.
I ve had this amazing idea myself and ended addicted to both opiates AND blow ( a couple pf weeks of hardcore blow use and if you are like your humble here you ll be a mess of anxiety and do more opioids than before). Maybe something less compulsive like Ritalin or some other stimulant? is weed an option ( for me is not , it makes me super paranoid)
 
Apparently some people have used stims to get off of opioids/opiates, but the idea sounds insane to me. The stim comedown makes me want to take more opiates, and if I'm dealing with opiate WDs the stim crash is so much worse than normal.

I ve had this amazing idea myself and ended addicted to both opiates AND blow ( a couple pf weeks of hardcore blow use and if you are like your humble here you ll be a mess of anxiety and do more opioids than before).

Yeah that's exactly how I imagine it would go for most people. "Amazing idea" LOL

I just accepted im a lifer until I get sick of the slavery to opiates then detox

That's unfortunately very relatable.
 
I ve had this amazing idea myself and ended addicted to both opiates AND blow ( a couple pf weeks of hardcore blow use and if you are like your humble here you ll be a mess of anxiety and do more opioids than before). Maybe something less compulsive like Ritalin or some other stimulant? is weed an option ( for me is not , it makes me super paranoid)
I really can’t smoke either any more. I was a daily smoker from 12 on, and I can’t tell you the exact time frame when it started giving me massive anxiety but the first I remember is around the time I started trading weed for methadone when my OC80 guy died. The original OCs lol, life hasn’t been the same since in many ways. Nobody else around would sell enough at a time to keep me well after playing “how many 80s can we eat today without an ER trip” for a few months. Tramadol withdrawal I think was the worst I ever had but I’m pretty sure it was only because I was taking well over a gram a day, I really only count it as the worst cause I’d still be in severe withdrawal even on high doses of other opiates, but the WDs between losing my 80 guy and finding the methadone connect were absolute living hell as well.

That’s the last time I remember comfortably smoking weed, if you can call it comfortable lol. Maybe I had such bad anxiety during those WDs it permanently altered me to associate being high with a deep anxiety. Who knows, I’ve had all the fuckin hippies before anybody even starts tell me to try “Indica instead of sativa” or whichever way it goes and believe me, I’ve tried it all. People to this day still have a hard time believing that I don’t smoke weed anymore and it’s been about 6-7 years since I gave up trying(except rare occasions). I’ve been smoking the highest quality bud forever, and I might not know which strain is which but I know it all makes my heart and brain bug the fuck out lol. Can’t make the same claim for bud as I can for other drugs(been going for 21 years) but I can say it’s the one thing I’ve managed to abstain from the longest 😂
 
Yup you guys are correct here..some days while blowing lines I did less opiates maybe half the usual days amount nd it worked out but then days I got geeked from blow and did double opiates so cancelled it out..this is a fail 🤣
 
Ah here comes another "brilliant drug addict idea"bc I'm such a genious🤥" ..gunna make another post .itl be called something like "is Tranq(xylazine) technically an opiate/opiod or not? "
Gunna talk how It boosts opiates and I think binds to opiate receptors? but does that make it an opiate/opioid itself?pretty much if you did straight xylazine would you still be full on dopesick or feel a small bit of relief from withdrawal?Comment if you guys see it..
 
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Ah here comes another "brilliant drug addict idea"bc I'm such a genious🤥" ..gunna make another post .itl be called something like "is Tranq(xylazine) technically an opiate/opiod or not? "
Gunna talk how It boosts opiates and I think binds to opiate receptors? but does that make it an opiate/opioid itself?pretty much if you did straight xylazine would you still be full on dopesick or feel a small bit of relief from withdrawal?Comment if you guys see it..
Xylazine has zero recreational effect. They put it in fent to knock you out to make you think you’re getting a good nod or some shit. Not really sure on that. But it has a fuck ton of horrible effects on your body and health, please do not purposely use xylazine. It will not get you high and it will not stop you from being dope sick
 
No no not looking for recreational high at all.I absolutely HATE xylazine(tranq) hate the way it feels hate everything about it BUT im wondering if it may have some use in what im trying to do?. lower my opiate toleranance so I can finally get off this shit.. for some time now i have been trying to get off Fent but I cannot seem to get my tolerance low enough where the withdrawals wont be insanely hell for those 3-4 days i need to wait to hop on suboxone .So my thought by snorting a tiny bit of xylazine with my Fent for a few weeks(like a literal grain im talking.. nothing more..which I have tried and does knock me out)..could it possibly help me get closer to suboxone since its not an opiod and will keep me knocked out longer so I do less Fent throughout the day.this may be a bit confusing Im not sure if Im explaining correctly but if anyone kinda understands what Im asking plz let me kno thnx!
 
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