Lowered iq by antipsychotics

[Ab33]

Since having taken them my intelligence seems to have dropped; I cant plan or organise. Cannot think anymore,have basically no inner monologue anymore,cannot concentrate,have impaired cognition,loss of general knowledge,vocabulary,known facts,difficulty concentrating,ask stupid questions,etc

Its been like that for 5 months. Ive been off them since 1.5 months.

 

[Jabberwocky]

This is a very common side effect of anti-psychotics. Which one were you taking? I know that when I quit taking Abilify and Seroquel it felt like a huge part of my personality came back online.

 

[Ab33]

This is a very common side effect of anti-psychotics. Which one were you taking? I know that when I quit taking Abilify and Seroquel it felt like a huge part of my personality came back online.

Temesta dont know much tbh (1 day)
Abilify 10 mg (2 weeks) gave me horrible akhatisia
Zyprexa 10 mg(1 week) basically lost all my memories from last 5 months and im also cognitive impaired from it
Invega 3 mg 2 weeks(Gave me a huge memory loss,basically cant speak dutch and french anymore . I mean these are my 2 main languages)

I cant benefit from coffee,ritalin etc
Other people use them as cognitive enhancers and I cant even get a slight effect from these meds, its almost pointless using it.

I cant bathe,watch tv,work,study,do all basic things,read,write,only complain how though it is
Only thing I can do is just laying in bed whole day.

I even lost vocabulary in english. I cant even bring up my concerns as my use of language had been greatly reduced. Its a hell
Im thinking of suicide sometimes its really though. Im only 19 years, still have to finish high schoom as these ap's rob 5 months from me.

 

[Jabberwocky]

They are very serious side effects to be having after such short period. However it is common for psychiatrists to cycle you through a number of different AP’s until they find the one you tolerate best. I probably went through six or seven before settling on Abilify as the most tolerable (although it still had many side effects).

Don’t be too despondent, the side effects generally disappear within a few weeks or months of taking the APs - especially if you are leading a healthy lifestyle with plenty of exercise. Even short, slow gentle exercise to start has a huge benefit. SO does a good diet. Definitely make sure your psychiatrist is aware of these side effects to - it sounds like the whole class of APS might be unsuitable for you.

 

[ions]

If you can take marijuana to calm your temper. I’m on invega shots monthly and as it’s the lesser of two evils it’s still an evil nitemare. I’m fighting for cannabis freedom and psychiatric dissolution.

 

[Ab33]

antipsychotics can work in very low doses so they can stay active for long time after you stop them
i have a prior experience with respiridon and olanzpine they seems to work up to 4 days after stopping
but saying they steel work after 1.5 month is really rules breaker

Srry im even wrong though. Its been 5 months its been that way srry. I mean im cognitively impaired for 5 months!! 5 months not being able to play videogames,watch tv,yt videos,carry on conversations,etc

But yeah having stopping taken it is 1.5 months I believe.

 

[Jabberwocky]

If you can take marijuana to calm your temper. I’m on invega shots monthly and as it’s the lesser of two evils it’s still an evil nitemare. I’m fighting for cannabis freedom and psychiatric dissolution.

What about the people cannabis makes psychotic?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Olanzapine is hell drug.
They gave it me in rehab, 30mgs a day.
Caused huge twitches on my face and i couldn't speak because my tongue was cramping. It's terrible drug and unless you're literally psychotic i wouldn't use it.

 

[ions]

What about the people cannabis makes psychotic?

How psychotic? I mean we all have an internal monologue. Autonomous voice communication. I think some of these observations are the side effects of psychedelics and could be better understood if treated as such. If not thc then cbd.

 

[Ab33]

How psychotic? I mean we all have an internal monologue. Autonomous voice communication. I think some of these observations are the side effects of psychedelics and could be better understood if treated as such. If not thc then cbd.

Mine has been deleted by antipsychotics unfortenately. I guess they caused dementia to me, I feel more retarded and retarded by they day even after discontinuation. Im only 19 years and im losing my ability to recall words,memories,etc,etc

Suffering from this for 5 months! Im closer and closer to end my life. Whats the point of waking up and not haveing the ability to open your pc and pkay a game or not having the ability to learn something new

 

[Jabberwocky]

How psychotic? I mean we all have an internal monologue.

my internal monlogue completely disappeared when I took anti-psychotics. It was silent inside my head most of the time. Like a void. Unless I was specifically thinking about something on purpose. Was marvellous for reducing my anxiety since I never ruminated on anything.

But maybe I misinterpreted your post - were you recommending cannabis or its extracts as an alternative to anti-psychotics? Sorry if I misunderstood but I'm not sure the science would rate that as harm-reduction. Most of the evidence seems to suggest that cannabis brings on psychosis to those likely predisposed to it. I had a few non-drug related episodes of psychosis in my late 20s / early 30s and I personally would put them down to the huge amount of hydro weed I smoked in my mid-teens.

 

[ions]

Mine has been deleted by antipsychotics unfortenately. I guess they caused dementia to me, I feel more retarded and retarded by they day even after discontinuation. Im only 19 years and im losing my ability to recall words,memories,etc,etc

Suffering from this for 5 months! Im closer and closer to end my life. Whats the point of waking up and not haveing the ability to open your pc and pkay a game or not having the ability to learn something new

my internal monlogue completely disappeared when I took anti-psychotics. It was silent inside my head most of the time. Like a void. Unless I was specifically thinking about something on purpose. Was marvellous for reducing my anxiety since I never ruminated on anything.

But maybe I misinterpreted your post - were you recommending cannabis or its extracts as an alternative to anti-psychotics? Sorry if I misunderstood but I'm not sure the science would rate that as harm-reduction. Most of the evidence seems to suggest that cannabis brings on psychosis to those likely predisposed to it. I had a few non-drug related episodes of psychosis in my late 20s / early 30s and I personally would put them down to the huge amount of hydro weed I smoked in my mid-teens.

I think it’s better to embrace the monologue as it comes back with cannabis use than numb it with synthetics. It’s an advance in intelligence that the psychedelic renaissance is beginning to come to terms with. APs bring on the weight gain and lower iq. I know haldol and risperdol made it seem like I was operating at 20%. And now ten years of antipsychotics I’m over 100lbs heavier than before. So many side effects. Where cannabis is natural.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I think it’s better to embrace the monologue as it comes back with cannabis use than numb it with synthetics. It’s an advance in intelligence that the psychedelic renaissance is beginning to come to terms with. APs bring on the weight gain and lower iq. I know haldol and risperdol made it seem like I was operating at 20%. And now ten years of antipsychotics I’m over 100lbs heavier than before. So many side effects. Where cannabis is natural.

I'm sure it can work for some people. I hear you on the weight gain from APs I put on close to 40 kg when I first started taking them. Stupidly ended up having gastric band surgery instead of just stopping the AP's. No matter which one I tried I just could not keep the weight off. Seroquel was the worst for weight gain (but best for all other side effects).

I'm also pretty sure that psychadelics can be of benefit to some people otherwise being treated with APs - but it's a difficult job for physicians or healers to know which ones will be helped and which one's will be made more fucked up by psychadelics.

 

[ions]

I’m experienced with all three cannabis psychedelics and antipsychotics. I know psychiatrists profit off insurance and prescribe these APs to keep their margins. I like cannabis and psychedelics as they are euphoric and pleasureable. Then again I’m a rather intelligent individual that will keep good frame of mind under the influence. Start low and find a happy frame.

 

[Shady's Fox]

Yeah drugs can alter your left side. Your left side it's you and because drugs interfere with receptors and damage your cognitive. Thing is, you still have that knowledge but they temporary damage your ability to think those things -- but don't follow misconception. That doesn't mean you have to stop your treatment. You need to be careful about how you make your environment and I am gonna end this with -- be careful about doctors, first line treatment may prescribe you some weird shit that you don't need.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

What about the people cannabis makes psychotic?

what, you mean the (at a guess) 0.01% (at the very most I'd estimate) that tries it?
(basing my estimate on a coupkl decades of mental health work)

even then, I'd say that most (all?) of them had underlying latent psychosis

causation v correlation as always

having said that I'm in no doubt whatsoever that it can be brutal - I have worked with ONE person in all that time who had an extreme reaction - a single toke on a bong followed by 4 months in psych hospital. He recovered and tried it again 4 years later - exact same result unfortunately. He's fie now after having not touched it since

 

[Jabberwocky]

what, you mean the (at a guess) 0.01% (at the very most I'd estimate) that tries it?

I have absolutely no idea what the actual number is - my understanding is that the correlation remains one of the great unknowns of mental health at this point in time for people likely to have had a predisposition to mental illness. It's impossible to measure the predisposition and probably impossible to get a reliable teenage drug history from everyone presenting with psychosis later in life - or to factor in the environmental facotrs that are also causative. I do know though that it remains a very active hypothesis in science and is subjec to quite a bit of research. My gut feel is that it might be higher than .01 % though. Although even .01 % of all the people presenting with psychosis at some point in their life would be a very high emprical number anyway and enough to worry about.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

^^^ my feeling is that it's less than .01%, not more.

I guess it's something that we'll never be able to truly prove. It's definitely very low though!

EDIT - I wouldn't be pushing it as a cure for psychosis however, but thats very different.

I'd also personally not touch an antipsychotic with a freakin bargepole too from what I have seen over and over again in real life