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BrainChild said:
Yes, it does, that's what nihilism is, everything is okay.
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Nietzsche hated nihilism. Nietzsche advocated living life with as much passion and intent as you can, thats damn far from nihilism.

"Those who lack the courage will always find a philosophy to justify it."
I think its kinda funny when people declare themselves bona fide nihilists without realizing that its basically impossible and that its really just a backdrop or foil for other philosophy to expound on. You remind me of the nihilists from the big lebowski.
 
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nearjat said:
Shit like this has fucked up my relationships before.
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Quoted for motherfucking truth.

Don't act on the feelings drugs give you. I pretty much threw away the best person i've ever had in my life because of what I was feeling after a few pills.
 
BrainChild said:
Meh, I haven't like a girl like this in a couple of years, so you know life happens and shit and then you die, don't see much sense in guilt tripping myself to serve society at large.
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I never thought there was another person that thought like me on this subject (although i can't say I'm a nihilist). You, sir, are awesome. There is no need to be bound by social norms or mores (although there is a risk of formal sanctioning in the violation of most mores -- such as the mos of recreational drug use) if you don't agree with them. It's important to think for yourself, and find your own path in life that is appropriate for you. No need to judge =)
 
ganja god said:
Nietzsche hated nihilism. Nietzsche advocated living life with as much passion and intent as you can, thats damn far from nihilism.

"Those who lack the courage will always find a philosophy to justify it."
I think its kinda funny when people declare themselves bona fide nihilists without realizing that its basically impossible and that its really just a backdrop or foil for other philosophy to expound on. You remind me of the nihilists from the big lebowski.
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Hey, I have passion and intent, it's just void of any real application in terms of purpose. I never claimed to be a nihilist, I have tendencies that I prefer to keep in a nihilistic light. I'm just fractured into bits and pieces that could never assemble themselves into a definite thought. I like myself but I see too many angles, for better or for worse.

Yeah, I don't think it's cowardly though to lie to yourself at all. We all bullshit our ways through life to justify actions of any kind. I'm no different, and I'm sure you're not either.

Either way I broke up with my girlfriend, she'll never know I cheated on her, and we're both better off without each other and now I have a new side project.

Tell me who didn't win?
 
AylaV said:
I never thought there was another person that thought like me on this subject (although i can't say I'm a nihilist). You, sir, are awesome. There is no need to be bound by social norms or mores (although there is a risk of formal sanctioning in the violation of most mores -- such as the mos of recreational drug use) if you don't agree with them. It's important to think for yourself, and find your own path in life that is appropriate for you. No need to judge =)
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"What does a scanner see? Into the head? Down into the heart? Does it see into me, into us? Clearly or darkly? I hope it sees clearly, because I can't any longer see into myself. I see only murk. I hope for everyone's sake the scanners do better. Because if the scanner sees only darkly, the way I do, then I'm cursed and cursed again. I'll only wind up dead this way, knowing very little, and getting that little fragment wrong too."
 
The fact that it's chemically induced doesn't mean it can't be real, I can legitimately say I love some of my friends in a large part due to having taken MDMA with them. It's not exactly the same as the "let's lock legs and swap gravy" kind of love but I still feel the same kind of tenderness as I do when I think if say an ex girlfriend I still care about. I'm not someone different when I'm high, it simply brings forth specific parts of who I am, and if I wasn't fine with that I wouldn't be using anything.
 
BrainChild said:
Hey, I have passion and intent, it's just void of any real application in terms of purpose. I never claimed to be a nihilist, I have tendencies that I prefer to keep in a nihilistic light. I'm just fractured into bits and pieces that could never assemble themselves into a definite thought. I like myself but I see too many angles, for better or for worse.

Yeah, I don't think it's cowardly though to lie to yourself at all. We all bullshit our ways through life to justify actions of any kind. I'm no different, and I'm sure you're not either.

Either way I broke up with my girlfriend, she'll never know I cheated on her, and we're both better off without each other and now I have a new side project.

Tell me who didn't win?
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Well at least your not misleading anyone I guess. Although you relied on nihilism to justify your actions so your as good as claiming to be one. And when you say that morals are there to "serve society at large" how exactly is not making a farce out of someone's feelings serving society? I don't know the dynamics of that relationship, so she might not even have feelings to make a farce out of, she might even be a cheating lying bitch herself, I'm just trying to see it through the eyes of someone who genuinely cares about the relationship. Though I think its obvious that if your choosing to live by something other than what you believe and hold as truth (and everyone has a basic intuitive sense of truth, however buried and repressed it may be) you can only be doing it out of an egoistic rejection of reality, which is basically the same thing as cowardice. The real existentialist virtue, which almost seems like your trying to claim is to transcend that cowardice and self deception. I don't claim to be beyond it or not incredibly weak existentially compared to what I could possibly be, but the effort to stop deluding yourself for the sake of whats easy is worth while despite how incredibly great a task it is.
 
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ive had the best of d n ms when on e, i would have hugged my worse enemy if i saw them in a club, but it doesnt last and only when your in that same mind set are you really that close (unless their your best mates of course)

you will notice when your sober and bump into them, convo does not flow so easily..

just my 2 cents :)
 
Drugs like X and Heroin give you (or at least me) intense feeling of love
then when you're not high anymore everything feels like a lie.
Drugs fuck up relationships a lot..
 
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