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Lost and Trying to Find Myself... Poppy Tea isn't Helping

Well I commend you on being strong enough to face this head on. I think that you have a very good chance of being successful and staying that way when you are this motivated! It sounds like everything went really well! I really hope that you continue on this path and TDS will be here to encourage you!
 
Just to add an important piece of wisdom to this thread.

For pod users I think a lot of them are in the dark about getting off pods because of the fact that theres not really a whole hell of a lot of people using pods. I realize theres a fair deal, but its still much less I believe than a drug like heroin or oxy.

And I think they become trapped somewhat because of this, not understanding exactly how possible it IS to stop using pods. When a new user comes on this forum and see one person succeed at stopping pods, they tell themselves "that person must be a lot stronger than me".

But when they see 2 or 3 people getting off pods, they start to realize how "easy" it actually is. I'm glad to see this thread come out with the OP getting clean. I DO think a taper is the single best way to get off pods. And I DO think if you take it slow enough you can even make the process enjoyable.

Thats right I said it. Most people would say "by tapering you can make it bearable" but you really can make it "enjoyable" on the taper by slowly reallowing yourself to experience the natural highs life has to offer.. which is way more than drugs imo. All a pod user ever has to do is take it slow and listen to their body. I'm not completely off opiates and am going back to pods to taper next week just because thats part of my plan but I know and feel success already. And its because the shift happens before the taper, not after.

I just want any active pod addicts to realize its VERY possible and VERY plausible to get off pods when you make up your mind that life has more to offer w/out them. The hardest point imo is just coming to realize that belief or shift. But once that happens imo the taper basically will piece itself together w/out much trouble at all.
 
i use them for chronic pain, and have been for around a year. i keep my dosage level low, when my tolerance for daily average use gets to 4 or 5, i drop back down to one or two.

some times, with the paps rather then the gigantherums ill get the classic feelings, but my pain is managed more, and tapering is easy when needed compared to the level i would be if i didn't ' stop & drop' my average intake.

this is safer, cheaper, as effective, you can easily sleep off the WD's in a week, you take less risk riding dirty less often with less, the ups guy comes a lot less... w/e

less is more, i am proof, i can manage this great 24/7 pain by simply knowing when to drop my dose, have very minor wd symptoms then in 2-3 days be back to how it should be, with a noobs dose...
 
Wow. you guys have really inspired me to quit PPT. I have tried to quit in the past but with no luck. I am so scared but I am going to try to taper off. I had already started the taper and now I'm gonna stick with it. Starting PPT was the worst decision of my life. If I knew back then how hard to kick would be, you better believe I wouldn't have touched the stuff.
 
I quit on May 30th, just over 4 weeks ago. This is the longest I've been clean since I started using 2 summers ago. I agree that a taper can be favorable in a lot of circumstances, but for me it seemed it wouldn't work because I always tapered in the past to reduce my tolerance. Tapering seemed to just be a way of managing my tolerance without going cold turkey and I would always get high after tapering. It was an endless cycle.

When I did quit, I took off about 6 days from work and used phenazepam to help me through the first week. I don't really remember much of that week, but I know that when I returned to work I was lightheaded, weak, and felt generally shitty. It took about 2 weeks for the worst of ithe withdrawal to subside, then I was left feeling sort of empty and restless for the following week (week 3).

Presently I can feel my brain returning to normal. I still am dependent on loperamide (3 pills per day) but I'm fine with that and in no real hurry to get off the lope. I don't feel cranky and restless all the time anymore, I can smoke a cigarette without it tasting like shit, have been able to sleep about 6 hours at night. I notice that I don't feel like yawning all the time anymore which is really nice, I must be producing endorphins again in sufficient amounts to keep me comfortable.

My experience was following 2 years of chronic and somewhat heavy usage as I approached the end of my addiction. I don't think I would have felt this bad for so long if I would have stopped sooner. 2 years is pretty long though so I guess I had it coming, had to pay the piper sooner or later and putting it off just made it worst.

If I'm honest I will admit that I have considered relapse from time to time. I have a moderate amount of chronic pain and PPT really helped but it hurt me more than it helped in the long run. My parents caught on to the fact that I was ordering poppies and I was more or less forced to stop, but I know I could just get a mail box at the UPS store and a coffee maker or something to make a crude tea. I know that doing this will likely bring back my withdrawal symptoms and I really don't want that so for now I'm staying clean from it. Now I just smoke weed which has been far less detrimental to me.

*Edit* - Congrats to mushroompizza for getting off the pods too, I know how hard it can be.
 
A little bit of personal insight to the OP...

I've never tried PPT, however I know all too well the feeling of other opiates. The painful beauty behind such drugs are that they provide you with a false sense of satisfaction. The type of "feel good" sensations you should be getting, though perhaps to a lesser degree, from every day life doing other things you love.

It has been covered already but I can't stress enough that exercise is a very important part of recovering from this sort of addiction. When I made the first major step to get myself clean I was coming off of a long use of Oxy and Tramadol. The feeling of hopelessness and depression was worse than the many restless nights of anxiety and sleep-deprivation in which I didn't even know if I had fallen asleep at any point or not.

I started taking multi-vitamins as well as Omega-3's daily (<--- highly recommend this!) to get my body back on the right track. If you have access to a treadmill, start out slow and do a casual walk for half an hour the first day, and step up the speed / duration a little bit as you go, while keeping yourself exerted yet still in a comfort zone. Not only does all the sweating help further cleanse your body, it also helps it correct serotonin production as well as gives you that "runners high" feeling. TRUST ME - you will NOT regret making this a habit. I suggest the treadmill mostly because it can be done from the privacy of your home until you feel comfortable taking advantage of being in the beauty that is the world around us.

It takes that first step to get started down the path to a better you. If you recall the progression of your addiction to PPT, you'll realize you started slowly and built yourself into negative habits associated with it. Just keep that in mind on your journey. It takes a slow progression to correct those negative habits and replace them with positive ones.

On a final note: never feel that you're "too old" or that your opportunity to succeed has passed you by. There's many different forms of success that can benefit you, and I'm not just speaking financially. Start using the internet for research into new hobbies, new topics which interest you, and start exploring them further.

Love and Peace :)
 
no nope, its never too late, our addictions and our manipulative tendencies start to work at us eventually; by rationalizing, justifying after a few months that the problem is deserved again. then, slowly slip back into our ' using-mind-set', where we can go different routes.

i use to slowly work myself into what i felt was a point of no return, and it was then the fixation, obsession, allowed to take over seeking escape from all the destruction i would create in my life, bridges burnt, and loved ones conveniently crushed and pushed away.

you know, now that ive fucked you emotionally, ill really show you by blowing a hole in my soul with virtual a needle-point.

i have a friend here that kicked a twenty year iv opioid addiction, in around a month, with only a few subs i believe. that right there is what i think of if i get too self involved kicking. that and, compared to alcohol or benzos,,, its just like having a nasty lingering virus or the flu for 10-15 days, not seizures, DT's, and\or death.

it is guaranteed to suck, and most certainly end. you life will be drab for a while, but there are many good god ways to fight that.

sex is suddenly, a very high priority...:D then the rest will start coming together in time.
 
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