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"Looping" in trips - Explain first hand accounts

Notice how everything comes into synchronization, without time to measure the 'difference' between spacial awareness.. everything appears to be as one and eternal. This is why psychedelics can be confusing, because your been forced into an awareness of your eternal self while still caught up in the play of consciousness; so everything appears to be looping in on itself.. it sure as hell makes everything really interesting, very psychedelic! But it's impossible to understand because at it's essence it's nothing.. so you just go around in circles until you manage to distract yourself again.

This is obviously my extreme view of thought looping; the minds attempt to grasp the infinite that has manifested itself through a simple thought loop, as Flickering said it's usually one or two thoughts that play off each other.. much like the dance of duality.

I can relate to the 'prankster' feeling, you sense that everyone knows something you don't' specifically about "you".. that somehow all of this, this entire existence is one massive joke. The punchline is you realize everything is you.
 
I never got the prank feeling, but my shroom trip devolved into a very lonely solipsism... all my friends and family were figments of my imagination... life seems to meaningless when it's just you.

There was definitely duality to my own thought loop, and I could even tell it was happening, to the point where I started to anticipate that I'd swing back to the opposite thought in about two seconds. "I'm on mushrooms, it's a bad trip! NO I'm God, the mushrooms are part of maya! NO I'm on mushrooms, I must accept the depressing reality that I will die one day! NO I'm God, in an the idealistic high! NO I'm on mushrooms! I bet in a second I'll think I'm God again. Well yeah of course because I AM God! NO..." I articulated this thought cycle on the second page. It wasn't fun.
 
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Oh man i can sympathize there, i do remember something strikingly familiar with myself on Mushrooms.. it's as though you come to two 'absolute' conclusions but there in direct conflict with each other, so you swing back and fourth unable to decide which is true and which is false; this became a recurring theme of mine with most traditional psychedelics.. It was only when i broke-through on DMT that it seemed to actually collapse that duality into a paradoxical void.. "Oh so i'm everything and nothing simultaneously."

I found it particularly daunting on LSD because i was often caught up in recognizing two absolute conclusions about my reality, that it was either organic of artificial. And i went through the same dance with duality "Everything is a simulation" "No everything's organically natural".. over and over in an hour long though-loop, there's nothing more nerve wrecking then re-definding your entire existence every couple of moments.. intense!
 
You said it. The pendulum just goes on swinging. Whooaa we're back to this again ---- ooooh we're at that other thought now, and here we go back to the original one.

I can't wait to try DMT. :)
 
The only loop during a trip I've had is getting caught injecting MXE by my parents, and been in hospital been asked to explain what I took.
'Meth-ox Meth-ox Meth-ox Meth-ox-'etc for about 30 seconds.
 
Flickering said:
You said it. The pendulum just goes on swinging. Whooaa we're back to this again ---- ooooh we're at that other thought now, and here we go back to the original one.

I can't wait to try DMT. :)
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Yes! This is the exact conclusion that me and my friends came to about 4-aco-dmt. There's a pendulum swinging (especially when you're coming down). You swing between super fucked up and near sober. It's quite confusing. But during the trip itself, around peak/plateau, I get that same feeling of going from thought to thought at light speed. As well as the feeling that I'm constantly 'waking up', if you understand what I mean.
 
Ive definitely experienced looping several times. Most noticeably on + doses of 2ce, where a number of related objects would suddenly become identical (trees in the forest were all exactly the same, same pattern of branches, same number of branches, everything. the same could be said for cracks in the pavement, blades of grass...). My thoughts would follow, and I would think of the amazing cycle of similitude all around me, and then notice it again in something new, and then think of it again etc. Looping has also happened to me when trying to figure out larger concepts that are presented before me, like the wheel of life (the juxtaposition of sunset and moonrise on LSD, as mapped in the stars). I simply cannot wrap my mind around what is being shown to me, and I keep returning to the question. It isn't so much unpleasant as it is overwhelming, and more often than not its brought me up another level or 2, in the end.
 
Had some crazy ones! A few that come to mind:

- Feeling like I'm walking down the same street over and over.
- Repeating the same 'intellectual' thought and deep conversation pretty much every 5 minutes, starting with 'what I'm trying to say is...'

I find music can be a big contributing factor to these sort've things, sometimes when things are starting to get a little tense just pause the track temporarily and see how quick things go 'calm'.
 
I've had this looping. It's absolutely terrifying. I can't even begin to convey the actual thoughts that were looping, but I can tell you that I kept thinking to myself "this is exactly how a crazy person must feel!". I felt like I was thinking someone else's thoughts, like I had nothing to do with it. I also noticed that the looping thoughts loop at an exponential rate, meaning the loop, or better yet SPIRAL gets shorter, and shorter, and shorter every time you loop through it, and eventually, for lack of a better description, the thoughts reach the center of the spiral and begin to loop so indefinitely that they eventually implode into themselves, your thoughts seem to be completely alien and coming from somewhere else, you officially reach a point where your consciousness simply cannot handle it anymore, you say to your friend "Dude I'm tripping really hard, I think I'm going to go lay do....." and then ---SNAP!---

I passed out, mid-sentence, while standing in my kitchen talking to a friend who was tripping with me. I literally just stopped talking in the middle of my statement, and fell to the ground, bashing my head into the wall...out cold and unresponsive. When I awoke, my friends were all around me, throwing water on me, slapping me around trying to get me to wake up. When I awoke, my heart was pounding, I was pouring sweat, and had absolutely no concept of time, space, self, anything. Completely blank mindset. I felt like I was nothing but an entity in "space", I didn't even have a body anymore, I had the perspective of a first person video game like Halo, I can see everything in front of my as if it was real, I can look down at my body and see that it is there, as if it was real, but I didn't actually exist. Everything behind me didn't exist, anything I wasn't looking at wasn't being rendered in 'reality', and there was no such thing as 'the past', there wasn't future either, there was simply right now, nothing more. Like I said, it's nearly impossible to convey this all into words, but that's the best I can do. When I awoke, I didn't recognize my girlfriend of 5 years, nor any of my roommates or friends, didn't know where I was, couldn't even begin to comprehend time, and everything in the world was colliding into the center of my vision. I also remember the sound, my hearing was turned off, I couldn't hear anything anyone was saying, all I heard was what sounded like a helicopter landing on my roof. I was aware of the sound and that it wasn't normal, and could only think that "this is the sound of your conscious" and even more strangely, the sound was oddly familiar as if I've heard it my whole life but never noticed it. As the thoughts raged through my head, I felt like I could actually hear the motion of the thoughts like a car making sound as it drives. Finally, after about an hour or so, the loops were calming down, the loops were widening again and allowing in voluntary thoughts again, and I was overcome by the most euphoric feeling I have ever experienced, and it was triggered by the absolute most simplest and basic thought imaginable.

I became aware that I was alive. I cried tears of joy like a baby in front of all my friends, and they even called me on it. "You're probably just glad to be alive, huh?" Fuck yeah I was!!
 
Had this a few times, though only the first time it was truly scary. On maybe 30mg 2c-b inflated , literally saw "the loop" such intense closed-eye visuals, same damn Frenchman singing Modest Mouse in French, same damn taste the rainbow flavours. Got scared as hell, started crying, but went outside and everything was pretty much fine after 5min aka 2 hours.

After this experience I was only caught in the loop when I was in a psychedelic coma, ODed on a AMT + 2c-e + JWH-122 combo. Noticed looping when I ODed on DOC, also noticed looping when I went insane on a DOI + Meph + spice combo. Makes me think what fractals, mandalas, religious symbols in Christianity, Buddhism, Islam are about. Yin Yang, some centric thing.
 
Seattle_Stranger said:
I've had this looping. It's absolutely terrifying. I can't even begin to convey the actual thoughts that were looping, but I can tell you that I kept thinking to myself "this is exactly how a crazy person must feel!". I felt like I was thinking someone else's thoughts, like I had nothing to do with it.
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ive felt exactly this. literally thought i had permanently sent myself insane, and i was gonna remain like that forever. thought i was headed straight to the nuthouse. scared the shit out of me lol
 
The "prankster" feeling is really scary... a few weeks ago when I was tripping on LSD I felt like everything around me and everyone was doing things or saying things related to me and my life and my past. I would be walking down the street and see something that tripped me out and was convinced that someone put it there for the sole purpose to upset me because they somehow "knew" I was on acid and they wanted me to freak out, if that makes sense... I felt everyone was out to get me. Later I came back to my room when I was coming down and my roommate was watching a movie; I thought the movie was about me and my life and it started freaking me out and I had to turn it off. Earlier that night I was stuck in this loop that I finally got out of once I came down enough from the trip. My short term memory was absolutely terrible and I would forget everything I was about to say. I was convinced that I was going mentally insane. I was stuck in a loop of being in a loop... I would say over and over again "I'm in a loop... I'm in a loop... I know it. I'm in a loop... Why am I stuck in a loop? Fuck." So that was quite a strange experience...
 
DivineMmtsofTruth said:
The "prankster" feeling is really scary... a few weeks ago when I was tripping on LSD I felt like everything around me and everyone was doing things or saying things related to me and my life and my past. I would be walking down the street and see something that tripped me out and was convinced that someone put it there for the sole purpose to upset me because they somehow "knew" I was on acid and they wanted me to freak out, if that makes sense... I felt everyone was out to get me. Later I came back to my room when I was coming down and my roommate was watching a movie; I thought the movie was about me and my life and it started freaking me out and I had to turn it off. Earlier that night I was stuck in this loop that I finally got out of once I came down enough from the trip. My short term memory was absolutely terrible and I would forget everything I was about to say. I was convinced that I was going mentally insane. I was stuck in a loop of being in a loop... I would say over and over again "I'm in a loop... I'm in a loop... I know it. I'm in a loop... Why am I stuck in a loop? Fuck." So that was quite a strange experience...
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Spot. Fucking. On.

You're not alone my friend. All of my bad trips have been exactly like that. It feels like they're fucking with me because they know I'm on acid. I always start asking myself "why did I take it? It wasn't worth it!" It just goes on and on and on, and it feels like they can read your mind and your thoughts. It feels like they know your deepest darkest secrets (aka your skeletons in the closet) and it's a really scary feeling overall. No matter how long I spend sober after a bad trip, even if it's a year, I still get paranoid while sober. I have to constantly reassure myself, it was all a drug.
 
sorry if has been asked but my vertion of a loop is i moved some cushions soon as id moved them they were back were they started now i know this didnt happen but nobody was there to tell me what i was doing in the time i thought i was repeatedly doing this any one have a idea
 
also on solvents i used to see pack man running away from alf robberts (home and away) but then alf would be in front of him not behind and shout in a language only i can understand "oh no you don't" then it would go back and start again the packman had his own language to i think he used to say here i come

Around the same i was trippin on solvents again and 5seconds of a film looped for hours
 
The phrase:
Everything's going in circles! Everything's repeating itself!
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was uttered oh so many times by a mate of mine on shrooms. I can completely relate but I don't let it get to me as it just turns into some form of negative feedback loop.
 
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