Looking like an Addict. Lifestyle v. DOC v. All drugs

I'd definitely argue with anyone who said they can always (as, you can't) spot an addict. Some?, yes. All, no.

I agree with this. When I was in Hawaii this summer, I saw two women in the pharmacy late at night who were DEFINITELY meth heads, and it was incredibly obvious. At the same time, I've met people who do opiates or coke regularly and I couldn't tell at all. Also, I've been asked "are you high or hungover?" for the dark circles under my eyes which I have naturally, regardless of amount of sleep I get. Really, sometimes it's rather obvious, but for every person that you can say "s/he's definitely an addict" there's another one that you'd never guess by their appearance.

As mentioned a couple times, things like cigs/alcohol take their toll on the skin/face more than opiates do, so I'm assuming this also depends on the "addiction" in question. But, I agree with woamotive really.
 
Like attracts like. If you are an experienced drug addict, you will in most cases (note: I said most), be able to spot another person with the same poison. I've had experiences with all sorts of drugs—let me tell you, I can spot an opiate addict or tweaker from a mile away! In many cases, they aren't even necessarily blatantly using. Drug addicts are not always (but often are) unhygienic and either on the nod...or 'wild eyed'. I've always been an avid people watcher, and I can observe the way a person carries themselves and quite often accurately determine (and later find out) that they were/are an addict.

Sometimes the defining moment can be something as small as the words they use while talking. Drug addicts often have a different set of lingo due to the 'street smarts' we are forced to obtain if we want to things run smoothly with dealers, users, ect. We also have a different set of mannerisms. A lot of both practicing and non-practicing drug addicts have a set of 'cancelled eyes'...eyes that have a sense of guilt, pain, and doubt behind them. Drug addicts also often tend to either make too much or too little eye contact. After getting 'caught', we begin fooling the people we're able to by staring them directly in the eyes. Also, there's that looking at the floor/around the room move. I see that one a lot with active AND non-active tweakers.

Last but not least, the obvious—that physical appearance that says it all. That "rode hard and put up wet" appearance. Not all drug addicts get this, many are in denial that they have it, but it is frequently visible to another addict (even just a trace of it to me gives it away)!

I'm going to throw in a personal example here to perhaps elaborate. From what I've been told, I have luckily been pretty blessed when it comes to looking 'youthful' (for the amount of drugs I've consumed in the past 7 and a half years. Let's face it, though. We all have our moments. Haha. ;)

Well, a few months ago I went completely overboard on Oxycontin and Lortabs. For whatever reason, Oxycontin always seems to add years on me quicker than any other drug...including heroin and meth. Anyway, to cut to the chase, during the height of this AM-PM opiate binge, I got summoned for jury duty. When I walked up the stairs to the courthouse, this young yet 'rough around the edges' looking woman approached me with a mischievious yet worn out grin on her face. I had a few minutes to kill, I was high, and she seemed interesting, so I sat on the bench for a bit and talked to her. As I had suspected, she had just been released, haha.

As the story continues, I let her use my cellphone and we joked around a bit. A few minutes later, I looked at the time and saw that I had to enter the courthouse for jury duty. I told the young woman goodbye and we exchanged mischievious grins once more. When I got up and started heading towards the courthouse, she screamed "Good luck!" and gave me a bit of a wink and a chuckle. I responded with the same exact gesture and remark...only my chuckle was a bit more intense. I had gone there to WITNESS a trial! I wasn't ON trial! Haha. It was then that I realized I had better slow down on the drugs, hahaha. 8) Granted, the young woman was pretty rad, but she had that wear and tear on her face that screamed "SEARCH ME, OFFICER!". After that experience, I literally detoxed cold turkey. When I do use now, I make it a point to look myself in the mirror and examine how different I look. If I look in the mirror and see that I gained 4 years in 4 days—I quit (if applicable), or seriously slow down until I look less gaunt in the face.

I'm a bit too narcissistic to turn into the female equivalent of Keith Richards. :p
Anyway, just my two cents (possibly four since I tend to ramble). Hopefully, my words and experience helped answer your question at least somewhat. :D
 
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the original post in this thread is complete garage! this person acts as though he/she has super powers or magic "essence" decoding goggles and can spot any drug user straight away. Garbage!

Now on to the subject of looking like an addict. Anyone ever see that one movie with Christian Bale were he has severe insomnia and doesn't sleep for like a month. A person suffering a similar fate could look like an addict. Ive learned time & time again not to judge a book by its cover...even if i do look like an addict myself. Ha!
 
My ex could identify an addict from a mile away. He used to point them out to me like when we were at the beach and some guy was around. Who knows if he was right.
 
Ugh.. this hits close enough to home.

I'm not a heavy stim user (don't do coke, and there's no speed where I live), but have been known to take large doses of Adderall.

I've lost about 20 lbs since I started 8 months ago, and make a real effort to keep my face plump, not drawn in. And meditation keeps helping with relaxing my eyes so they don't pop.

Getting back into health ftw.

@Android: Looking a proper mess 8) and Of COURSE I will show up for family Christmas after 2 days of no sleep. Dressed WELL. There ya go.

(LOL@ getting called out for it and being surprised I didn't pull it off.)

Do you have any advice on keeping your weight while on adderall? If i do like 90mg-140mgs in a day and stay up all night, i'll weigh myself the next morning and will have lost at least 5 pounds.. in less than 24 hours. Eating is next to impossible , but i would just chew up my food slowly and force swallow it with a drink, it sucks, fuck you have to do it. I just need to know how to stop loosing all this weight its rediculous. I regain it fast when i stay off it for a few days, but when i take adderall it just falls right off
 
This is an answer to a question that doesn't even exist? oh well, i'll chime in.

Their eyes may lose some of the 'vibrant' glare they used to have, they may become slightly bloodshot or even yellowish, they will often recede into the skull a little, and bags will become larger and darker than they were before. The eyelids will look more wrinkled, skin all over the body (look at the hands and face) will seem drier, possibly more wrinkly, red, or pale, their skin, around the wrinkles, may seem whiter. Usually, hygiene worsens noticeably, or in some cases the person will be hyper-aware and they will become anxious and possibly paranoid. They often seem weaker as well. And lots of other stuff.

Remember that you can be very 'observant', but you might be wrong much of the time, and really you may just be judgemental. I went through periods of feeling like I was identifying everyone perfectly, and others where I thought I could see so much but never knew what to think of what I saw.

To be honest, once it gets bad it should be obvious to most people (well, I've learned that many, many people are very passive and don't pay much attention to looks for observational/ learning purposes. It also depends on the drug quite a bit, but I am trying to be as specific as I can for 'drug abuse' in general
 
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Of course it exists, it's my favorite game to play when I'm out in public. I can spot exactly, what they are addicted to as well.

Also, the mental effects are pretty obvious after long-term, the mannerisms, the weird movements, the schizo-type stuff, buts after at least a decade of use.

It's not every person tho, if you think everybody is on something that means your look too much into it.

Like for instance, there was this women on heroin on the subway today, and it's pretty fucking obvious.
 
Last but not least, the obvious—that physical appearance that says it all. That "rode hard and put up wet" appearance. Not all drug addicts get this, many are in denial that they have it, but it is frequently visible to another addict (even just a trace of it to me gives it away)!

Nice post. Can you elaborate on this look? I kinda get what you mean, but if there's anything more specific you can cite, that'd be great.
 
I'd definitely argue with anyone who said they can always (as, you can't) spot an addict. Some?, yes. All, no.
Well, yeah. This should have been implied.

Like attracts like.

Sometimes the defining moment can be something as small as the words they use while talking. Drug addicts often have a different set of lingo due to the 'street smarts' we are forced to obtain if we want to things run smoothly with dealers, users, ect. We also have a different set of mannerisms. A lot of both practicing and non-practicing drug addicts have a set of 'cancelled eyes'...eyes that have a sense of guilt, pain, and doubt behind them. Drug addicts also often tend to either make too much or too little eye contact. After getting 'caught', we begin fooling the people we're able to by staring them directly in the eyes. Also, there's that looking at the floor/around the room move. I see that one a lot with active AND non-active tweakers.

"rode hard and put up wet" ...frequently visible to another addict

I look in the mirror and see that I gained 4 years in 4 days—I quit (if applicable), or seriously slow down until I look less gaunt in the face.

I'm a bit too narcissistic to turn into the female equivalent of Keith Richards. :p

Wow great response :)

I left the parts in the quote that resonate with me most.

The "CULTURE"'s mannerisms (non-verbal language), and language are, as you say, the best clue. Though if I use my magic "essence" decoding goggles, I have no need for speculation.. harhar..

I too, am interested in the "rode hard and put up wet" / rough around the edges look. ESSENCE. Language fails us in this thread apparently, I won't take the blame.
 
Do you have any advice on keeping your weight while on adderall? If i do like 90mg-140mgs in a day and stay up all night, i'll weigh myself the next morning and will have lost at least 5 pounds.. in less than 24 hours. Eating is next to impossible , but i would just chew up my food slowly and force swallow it with a drink, it sucks, fuck you have to do it. I just need to know how to stop loosing all this weight its rediculous. I regain it fast when i stay off it for a few days, but when i take adderall it just falls right off

If I'm on a binge, I don't eat much other than applesauce and tea.

When taking it daily though, it's good to have a planned time to EAT. Put soo much butter on your bread, and basically drown your pasta in olive oil.

Throughout the day, force yourself to eat scoop(s) of peanut butter/ almond butter, etc.

So how do you use your Adderall?
 
My gf was an light opiate user for 2 years before i hooked up with her & I didnt know she used until she told me. Her skin was so soft & looked great & she never had bags under her eyes & never looked tired so I think its how on eperson takes care of themselves. Bottom line, you need to eat & get enough sleep & you should be okay. As far as using heroin & looking normal, I wouldnt know because neither of us use it.

Forgot to mention that you should drink alot of water because lots of water makes your skin look good.
 
Thank you! :) Here's the whole "rode hard and put up wet" detailed explanation for you all. (For those of you who were confounded by that idiom, it basically means the person is not looking their best due to looking rough around the edges. Also, by rough I do NOT mean style. I am talking soley about looking as though your lifestyle choices have taken a toll on you. (Think of Amy Winehouse DURING her addiction in comparison to that photo that circulated the net everywhere when she had some weight on her and looked healthy!)

Well, to list some of the features of an addict, here are the ones I consider to be a dead giveaway when paired with the mannerisms of an addict.

First and foremost, extremely pronounced cheekbones. I am not talking that "Oh, look! She has such high cheekbones!" deal. I am talking to the point where the actual fatty part of the cheek has diminished when smiling. At this point, when the addict smiles, the cheek has turned to nothing but skin against bone. If that person normally has dimples, they are no longer showing.

Next, anything going on in the under eye area that looks too extreme to be related to stress or sleep deprivation alone. This is where age plays a big factor, too. Although you have people who are genetically predisposed to things like slight under eye lines (at a younger age even), circles, bags, crows feet, and maybe even a few flat out 'wrinkles', if it is genetic, it shouldn't look that 'dramatic' until the observed person is much older. Unless, of course, that person is very ill with a physical disease.

Moving along yet staying on topic regarding premature aging, think 'laugh lines' (nasolabial folds). Drug use is proof that laugh lines are not exactly funny! Haha ;) These may also be the sign of an addict. Again, some things are hereditary—some happen due to what we put in our bodies.

Last but not least, body type. Often times addicts have a body type that does not match their fat to face ratio. If you see someone who is 300lbs with very little fat content on their face in comparison...you might be staring at a drug addict! Also, if you see someone who is overly thin in all areas—heroin chic anyone?

The extremely rad news is that all of these can usually be reduced (sometimes totally gone depending on the situation). All it takes is the right amount of cleaning up your act and taking care of yourself =D
 
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PS. I've never been on Adderall before for an extended length of time, but I do have years of experience with meth. Every drug will take its toll on the body/mind a bit differently, but those are the characteristics I see as 'basic' physical drug addict attributes.

Oh, also...one thing I forgot to mention which pertains more to the posters drug of choice is the thinning of hair. If you're on Adderall and your concerned with looking like an addict, try not to put your hair through too much damage :) Back when I used meth, speed ruined my hair for quite some time. Then again, I have always had thin hair :\
 
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Last but not least, body type. Often times addicts have a body type that does not match their fat to face ratio. If you see someone who is 300lbs with very little fat content on their face in comparison...you might be staring at a drug addict! Also, if you see someone who is overly thin in all areas—heroin chic anyone?

Thanks for explaining. I totally have this, I'm about 250lbs but my face does not reflect that at all, not much fat. Former drug addict. I wonder what the scientific reason is, if this is a true sign of an addict.
 
Thanks for explaining. I totally have this, I'm about 250lbs but my face does not reflect that at all, not much fat. Former drug addict. I wonder what the scientific reason is, if this is a true sign of an addict.

No problem! That's interesting that you haven't gained the weight back in your face. I've seen that from time to time. Occasionally, I see that it takes some people longer for their body to get back to normal. Other times we're left with a few battle scars. Hell, at least you beat the addiction :D
 
No problem! That's interesting that you haven't gained the weight back in your face. I've seen that from time to time. Occasionally, I see that it takes some people longer for their body to get back to normal. Other times we're left with a few battle scars. Hell, at least you beat the addiction :D

Yeah, mostly beaten, anyway. About once a month I get myself a pill and get disappointed and then forget about how it sucks until a month later and do it over again. I just got a new phone number though, a lot of that temptation came from a dealer calling me.


I need to lose some weight :|
 
most of the time I think it takes an addict to notice another addict, because honestly I can see the signs now that I've been through them but I wouldn't have been able to before my drug experiences.

I think the most important thing if you are using and don't want to appear like you are using is to get some sleep, eat somewhat regularly, dress well and take care of your personal hygiene. I've been accused of being strung out during times when I was completely sober mainly because I wasn't sleeping or eating enough. I've also been told that I looked great when I've been on Heroin just because I had slept ate and was dressed well and wasn't nodding out.

Other addicts will spot you no matter what you do if they are tuned into you enough, they may have to know you if you aren't straight up strung out. I've met Heroin addicts who I would have never suspected to be H addicts, and even years later if it weren't for my own experience and knowing the person I wouldn't have a clue. There are some highly functioning addicts out there that are very hard to spot.

As far as the pinpoint pupil thing it's not always reliable because some people just have really small pupils in all shades of light.

I think speed and alcohol take the biggest toll and are the easiest to spot even when people try to cover them up. Cigarettes are pretty brutal to peoples skin as well, but alot of it is genetic, some people are much more physically affected by drugs than others.

I wouldn't put any bets on spotting addicts I didn't know, it can be tricky but I usually will have some sort of intuitive feeling when I meet an addict even if there are no obvious physical signs. However there's always those people who you'd never guess in a million years.

I wanted to add that alot of looking like a non addict when you are one is just knowing how to present yourself appropriately in whatever situation you are in, alot of people can't even do this sober, some of it has to do with how you were brought up or just with how observant you are. It's like that movie Catch Me If You Can, most people are too caught up in themselves to notice the little things so if you nail all the main things in any social situation and are confident and dressed appropriately they usually won't notice.
 
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I've been able to spot a heavy user for years since I have been a heavy user in almost everything at some point or another. I'm sure i'm not right 100% of the time but sometimes I can not only tell if someone's fucked up or getting fucked up in general, sometimes I can even guess what that person's on by their demeanor or appearance. I've just been there so many times it sticks out to me. There's been a couple of situations where i've guessed what someone was on to later find out it was true. Like I said I don't get it right every time and I'm sure there's been people that was high and I missed but usually I can tell if someone's on something and what they're on, even multiple substances.
 
I suppose people on stimulants have caught my eye & people obviously on heroin but i cant say i'm exactly walking around like a radar detecting every person around me on opiates.

I can usually tell if a person is likely to have ever 'tried pot' in their lifetime.
 
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