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Looking for fulfilling belief system

Believe it or not I've been reading about Satanism for years and I think it's probably the closest thing so far that connects with me - I just wish they would change the name. It's soooooo tacky.
 
I don't think it would be right for anyone to recommend a particular belief system; IMO, it's best if you read up on them and pick whatever makes you feel happiest at a particular point in time. If someone else were to recommend a belief system, you'd only be getting something that works for *them*, and it might not be the best choice for you.
 
^I wasn't recommending satanism - just mentioning it. Frankly, it is possible to have the religious experience without believing in anything. It's all about ritual, culture and mind set.
 
Also, I find looking at things holographically to be quite fulfilling.
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Before I finish reading this I just want to say that so far it is fascinating. I have spent many hours since I learned how to read studying Einstein and Hawking. The concepts of relativity and quantum physics are like some sort of intellectual narcotic for me. Thank you!
 
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The third eye?!? I read that and I thought it was one of the most badass books ever written!:D
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I'm reading the turd eye* now, and am enjoying it alot. Years ago I read "Feeding the Flame".... I think it was about trolls on message forums*.

On a more serious note, I really don't understand the need to be part of a standard belief system. Everyone's POV is absolutely unique. Labels, names, ideals and rules work only as guides, not as unquestionable laws.


*no dis intended, just my retarded humour
 
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Yeah, you can have spiritual experiences without any belief system as we have the necessary components within us, its a part of who we are but there's always going to be an ego and thus related cultural ideas, personal experiences etc. Overall its probably better to have a belief system thats open, and allows possibility of things you've never experienced, how else do you go to higher awarness?
 
I don't have a religous bassed belief system, yet I can still feel fullfilled.
I believe in Newton's Law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction - some may call this Karma.

But at the end of the day, even with an explanation, does it change the way things are?

Say if you had a loved one that died, and I could explain to you why it happened, and who was responsible - it may make things a little easier, but at the end of the day, you still wont get that person back.

Colin.
 
good point.....

at the end of the day things are only "the way they are" and nothing will ever change that. "Beliefs" are simply explanations to explain the world we do not understand. I think far to many people get preocupied with this and neglect a beautiful world that we know lots about! What is needed is simply to accept the way things are. If you can accept that the word "is" and things "are" then you are a good way on the track to being happy.

Someone asked me on the weekend the simple question "why?"
His question was somewhat philosophical and retorical yet I still answered his question with the simple yet totally correct answer of "Because!"
 
Like many others who have posted so far, I don't subscribe to any pre-set religion. I like making my own decisions (my whole basis for rejecting Christianity as a child, but don't get hung up on that), so I did just that.

I believe in Karma, that what goes around comes around.

I believe in a persistent life-force that exists after death (the soul, if you want to give it a name).

I believe that one's 'soul' is not just oneselves' own spiritual 'force', but something greater - even possibly another being with a seperate will, like a guardian angel or something along those lines. A being that co-exists in our minds, sharing a symbiotic relationship, or perhaps merely a function of our brains, like a computer program.

And above all, I believe that because life has no specific meaning or purpose, that the best thing you can do is always do good by someone, even if they have once wronged you - sometimes they can turn out to be a good friend.

that, and,

Killarava: That page about the holographic universe, it's all in one paragraph. Perhaps you or someone else could give an outline, given its immense difficulty to read?
 
colicolo said:
I don't have a religous bassed belief system, yet I can still feel fullfilled.
I believe in Newton's Law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction - some may call this Karma.

But at the end of the day, even with an explanation, does it change the way things are?

Say if you had a loved one that died, and I could explain to you why it happened, and who was responsible - it may make things a little easier, but at the end of the day, you still wont get that person back.

Colin.
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I realy am uncomfortable in the aggressive coping status of our country too. I read about a yogi who when deying said "don't worry, nothing happens" what an odd thing to say, it seems utterly wrong and right at the same time, maybe it is the duality of culture. But I do believe that we are but a borrowed vessel in this existance. as not to steal I must continue off of anothers brilliant water analogy with psuedo creativity.

One drop of water in an ocean can clash on a rock, it will fall back into the sea and it will continue to be, but it will never be that drop on that rock again.

we always are a drop of water, what ever happens to seperate us from life and humanity, that seperation is just an illusion of self, because with out the body of water there would be know drop to regenerate. -imo
 
All religions are the devil!!! Sounds like an oxymoron? I think not. Imagine if there was no religion? What a wonderful world. Drugs are the answer. As if Jebus wasn't on drugs. Walking on water? Yeah, good one buddy. Pass those shrooms over this way will ya?
 
Speaking of Thelema, made me think of Alisteir Crowley, and Hermetics is something you may want to look into.

To me hermetics sums up my favorite quote "we place no reliance on virgin or pigeon. Our method is science, our aim, religion"

I am a big believer in Magick, and God, and a massive spiritualist. But, I am also madly logical and believe science can explain the supernatural.

If you want scientific spirituality, this is a good route.

here is some readin for you..

http://www.hermetics.org/ebooks.html

I am in the same boat as the others who won't claim a religion.

To me, to find truth you can't limit yourself. You will stagnate in one religion. But if you research all you can, you will begin to find amazing truths that are the same througout, and begin to see the metaphors in all that bind them and show that they all in fact just may be divinely inspired.
 
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nicky j , I do not believe it is an oxymoron because MOST religions have a devil or a dark equalibrium to there good god, thus the religion is the idea, and since devils are an idea of religous constructs, nothing else could be more that idea in existance, because nothing else is tangably connected to that idea, some religions like buddhism and judaism however, are void of such concepts.

I believe the oxymoron applies to darthmom's point of supernatural, infact I believe the expression "naturally made by machines" makes more since then supernatural. because as exstentions of our nature, machines are a part of nature that is void of any super or unexplainable phenominon.
 
Spiritual awakening and egoless states take more then just practice, you need to be prepared to push the boundries. worth it though.
 
I love the philosophy of the movie dogma, in that it is much better to have an idea then a beliefe. I think beliefs direct the emotion of awakenings or revalations , where as ideas still leave room to expand the realms of possabilities.
 
^^For that reason I could never be an atheist, but I don't think I'll ever fall back into any kind of dogmatic belief system. Right now the only religion I follow is that of doing my best and trying to create the best life for myself, regardless of what kind of wild shit waits on the other side (there's no way for anyone to know what happens there anyways!)
 
is a "best life" vallued by honesty or conformity , money or contentment? I think niether, for most people it is just the easiest softest way, which is conformity I suppose.
 
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