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Lithium interactions...

I understand your interest/desire for recreational drugs....personally, I get extremely angry when people flame me or others for wanting to get high when taking antidepressants/having a psychiatric disorder. Just becuase we are fucked up should not mean that we can't EVER have fun...that's simply NOT fair. We just have to exercise even more caution and moderation than the average user. But I do firmly believe that it is possible to suffer from a psychiatric disorder and still use drugs in a relatively safe manner.
 
Dur! I didn't say not to use drugs, I simply said that until you have a handle on your situation, well, you shouldn't use drugs that could further complicate things...
So once you get on that cocktail (and for bad cases of bi-polar, you *might* have to take 7+ medications) and everything is back to normal (no more outbursts, anger, cutting or burning yourself, etc...) - THEN you can go balls out and tweak for 19 days or do whatever you want to do..
Of course a Vicodin now and then wont do you any harm... I recomend it as it might calm you down, or at least give you a positive outlook on life (opiates are the reason I didn't put a gun in my mouth years ago)..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
I knew exactly what you meant, PhreeX. I was afraid that my response would come off like it did, actually. I was just trying to clarify that I don't get fucked up at all compared to how I used to because I have been diagnosed as I have and I don't want to fuck up any kind of treatment that I am attempting to receive.
The thing I was trying to get at in the second or third reply was that Vicodin, not Oxycontin or Morphine or Dilaudid, is the only thing that I have taken in my memorable recollection that has tamed my moods as well as alleviated my headaches. Of course, I don't want to fuck up my body from the APAP or become some Vicodin junkie, but this is the only thing that I know can help me, and I can't have it. I've been laughed at before because I suggested it, although I really do have a legit problem. Why do doctors think that Vicodin or its equals are such a terrible thing? They're taught to prescribe Semi-synthetic opioid painkillers like they're their pharmaceutical virgin daughters. I'm sick of it. Just fucking give people the shit they know they need. Personally, I'd rather be addicted to painkillers and feel alright than be in the shitty spot I'm in right now. Opiates are truly the best medicine, if you ask me. Why don't doctors look into opiates for depression? You know, I heard on Loveline tonight that some little bitch got prescribed Vicodin for her headaches? Maybe she was lying, but it pisses me off just the same. Poor little bitch, have some Vicodin. I wish I was that poor little bitch. Peace.
 
Chill! There are a number of reasonswhy opiatesare not prescibed for depression, Iwrote a huge article on it I may release later.... and in the hospitals and doctors offices, they CANT give you what you want - they have to do whats best for the patient, and in 95% of these cases, narcotics are not warranted...
Remember, we are druggies, we take pain killers to get high... they are doctors, they prescribe pain killers to people thatneed them to have their physical pain eliminated...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
I'm one of them, though. These headaches make me want to crush my skull under the wheel of my car. I don't think that the doc's diagnosis was right on. I think it's something that he and the other doctors have overlooked, i.e. part of a wisdom tooth that wasn't properly and completely removed or a growth or something. A woman I know had almost the same headaches. For over ten years, she didn't know what was wrong with her and neither did the doctors. Finally, the doc's discovered a tiny piece of bone that had broken off and travelled to other places in her head or some shit like that. They did some work and no more headaches. I can't remember any of the respective details, but it seems that I could have something like that. I had some fuck that wasn't even an oral surgeon take out my first two wisdom teeth. He gave me a shot, busted the tooth with, basically, a set of dental pliers and removed the chunks one by one. That shit sucked. Plus, one was impacted and all I got was Ibuprofen. Oh well, live and learn. Peace.
 
There are Dr's who give opiates for headaches. If they are that bad go to the ER and tell them whats going on, you should get a shot for something good.
I have been getting opiates for my headaches for over 10 years.
I suggested in an earlier thread to try Depakote, it helps both bipolar and headaches.
 
^^^
This is true. Fiorinal with codeine is especially effective for headaches...
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"We are forever the interchangable, connected, complex, intertwining components of an
infinite wholistic conciousness that is itself each component."
-- Leprechaun
 
edemon -
The keep going back to your doctor and tell him what works and what doesn't ... if you have headaches, chances are, there are going to be a LOT of other drugs that will help you (read: non-narcotics) .. medicine is a progressive science, not as exact as you think..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
I know. I just know that hydrocodone takes away my headaches completely, regulates my mood well and makes me feel nice. That's all. Of course there are tons of other things I could try, the thing is that I don't want to mess around with every possible medication, doing everything we can not to even consider narcotic painkillers, waste everyones' time and my money and spend months worth of doctors visits experimenting with everything under the sun when I already know of something that works well. It would just be so much easier and more worthwhile if I could get what I want, you know? Of course, I would be and am completely willing to go the whole nine yards and try out any medication that the docs feel might have a chance. I am, after all, very interested in resolving this problem I have. It's just a matter of ease.
 
But the narcotics are not a "cure", they are simply a "patch" - they negate the physical pain your body feels, but the headache has NOT been cured... drugs like Imitrex as well as a nymber of others actually STOP tyhe headache...
But I like your attitude! I would tell your doctor what you just posted - inb a nutshell of course... something like "I am willing to work to get these gosh darn things taiken care of, but until I find something that is effective, could I have some Vicoprofen for those days where I simply have to much pain to function?" ... notice we asked for Vicoprofen - you can say this is "what the ER gives me" ..
Actually I have a REALLY GOOD article on how to scam some weird type of headache that has almost no effective treetment except narcotics... I will find it and mail it to you!
Oh, they *WILL* take an MRI, CT-scan, and a few other PHYSICAL tests that will show a lot, so it's not that easy to fake a headache and score narc's!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Thanks alot, man. I really appreciate you continuing on this thread. If you sent me that, I would be one happy prick. That's good advice, too. I will certainly give it a shot. My neurologist really is a good doctor. So far, I have been completely impressed with his abilities, but he is a doctor and doctors tend to do whatever they can to keep from even saying the word 'narcotic.' I think he just might go for the aforementioned suggestion, though. Again, I am not seeking pills too tirelessly, I'm trying to at least dull the pain I get far too often, you know? Thanks again. Peace.
 
By the way, I was prescribed Depakote first by my psychiatrist, but was told by my neurologist not to take it because I have some sort of hereditary liver dysfunction and he thought it may fuck some shit up, in reply to the above suggestion.
I really am not as frail and fucked up as I may appear to be in these posts. I have just recently discovered all of these ailments and they're sort of coming to head all at once. All of this shit will get worked out eventually, I'm sure. Peace.
 
I bipolar and I think you should try Zyprexa (olanzapine). I'm not prescribed it anymore, but when I was on it I was sedated and not concerned about any of my problems. It knocks you out, and it's expensive, and you gain weight, but it's the best drug you're likely to get from any of these doctors IMO. Personally, to me Zyprexa is about as good as an opioid for your type of problems.
 
Really? What is it, an anti-convulsant? It sounds alright, although I need to be somewhat-mentally alert for my job. I have to sit and count and entertain and shit, and have found that the only really good things to go to work on in my line of business are speed and Vicodin. Of course, I've curbed my speed habit quite a bit.(once a month) I just don't think I would be able to take anything that would keep me completely sedated. It would be nice, but it would probably be hard to work on. All I ever do is fucking work. Peace.
 
Zyprexa - why would you mention that? It's like getting "high" off of trazadone, and I dont think it would do anything for your headaches..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
"better then trazadone" - um, the piont is, for RECREATION, both are really worthless... yeah, they can alter your reality so you're technically "fucked up" .. but it's not a *GOOD* thing..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Thats to bad about the Depakote, It works for my bipolar and headaches,although my Dr. still thinks I get them a few times a month which is good for a few "good pills".
In my opinion Zyprexa sucks ass, ive never taken it but have known a few people who did! Its an antipsychotic and its side effects include weight gain...of usually 30% of your begining weight, facial ticks, inability to be "with it" and many other nasty things. Yes its better then Haldol but so is snorting red pepper.
 
Yeah, I was just given the option of Zyprexa earlier today. I was considering it for a little under one second, but we decided we would cut my lithium dose in half and see what that would do instead. {see: Propranolol post}
Fuck that bullshit! Facial tics, 30% weight gain? Stick Zyprexa up your ticcing, weight gaining ass, fuckfaces!
 
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