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Addiction Life might be better meth free

Boku_

Boku_

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I'd like to quit meth but boy it's hard! I scored 2 weeks ago, used for a couple of days then spent a week and a half in bed while drinking cheap wine. I felt like shit. Now I am over the worst of it but I had a mini relapse today. I smoked the crud dust out of my pipe that's it.

I really wanna get over meth however even smoking crud dust makes me feel good. Just then i threw out everything connected to meth, the pipe, the foil, straws everything.

I've blocked all my dealers numbers. Any advice is welcome. I used meth for 10 years, never a daily user but if i could i would score once or twice a week.

I'm a old bastard, was using speed in the 1990s. It's only now that I have ever considered quitting. Ok i won't bullshit you I've THOUGHT about stopping before when I knew no one to score off but that only lasted a few weeks.

My main question is how long should i expect to have of spending all my time lying down in bed?
 
Hey smoking resin or whatever, I mean yeah ya shouldnt, but I wouldn't call that a relapse. You've been sober for a week and a half? That's pretty solid, keep at it though don't lose hope. That shit is tough to get away from, and you've been doing it since thirty years.

I won't lie to you, that will do a lot of damage to the mind and body, and it will take a solid bit of time to readjust. I had only been on it for a few years, and I would never have been able to stop until my adhd was treated. I simply could not function with out it. If you get through the first month, you will absolutely be on your way to making a full recovery but you gotta get there though, going backwards is not the move.

I recently had something of a relapse myself and had been using progressively more and more over a couple months. This was after I had been clean for a whole damn year. So yah the progress comes and goes, but just stick with it. Get some L-Tyrosine, L-Tryptophan, Magnesium, Black Seed Oil, GABA, and other stuff like that to help bring your brain back to stasis. You'll be very happy that you did.
 
Not in answer to your main question (no relevant personal experience), but I just wanna chip in and say the title of your post alone makes me optimistic for you.

The people I know who successfully quit or reduced their drug use (myself included) all started off considering that life might genuinely be BETTER that way. Most of the ones who couldn't stick it long-term went into it with the mindset that they were about to deprive themselves of the best thing that life had to offer.
 
Yeah I understand man. I'm the same.. I had a week off work and I quit. I also layed in bed the whole week. major depression and no drive.
I started feeling good after day 6

But then I also relapsed.

I know I can get off if i have benzos but for the first time in my life i cant get them. Not sure if that helps you-but if i have xanax, valium and clonidine i can get off. that's me. Not sure if it helps you.

meth is fucked because it makes you isolate from life. The sex drive and ability to orgasm 4 or 5 times in a short period of time. staying home and watching porn becomes an issue.

Im exactly where you are. Life is better on meth but then it's not. Its a wild ride. Stay strong. If u do relapse don't feel bad. its part of the process.

You also need to get something to distract you. Something physical outdoors. Sports. hiking. gym etc

meth is one hell of a drug. So good but so destructive. i admire people that can use it with discipline.
 
Boku_ said:
I'd like to quit meth but boy it's hard! I scored 2 weeks ago, used for a couple of days then spent a week and a half in bed while drinking cheap wine. I felt like shit. Now I am over the worst of it but I had a mini relapse today. I smoked the crud dust out of my pipe that's it.

I really wanna get over meth however even smoking crud dust makes me feel good. Just then i threw out everything connected to meth, the pipe, the foil, straws everything.

I've blocked all my dealers numbers. Any advice is welcome. I used meth for 10 years, never a daily user but if i could i would score once or twice a week.

I'm a old bastard, was using speed in the 1990s. It's only now that I have ever considered quitting. Ok i won't bullshit you I've THOUGHT about stopping before when I knew no one to score off but that only lasted a few weeks.

My main question is how long should i expect to have of spending all my time lying down in bed?
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You can do it. I relapsed a great many times but eventually I used maybe once every 2-3 months and kept my relapses short and then quit altogether. Just put your head down, don't drink or just a little bit. Rest rest rest. Exercise DAILY (I think this helped me most tbh). See a psychologist or even a drug and alcohol counsellor. There's not really any shortcuts with meth but I agree with @deficiT about l-tyrosine, l-tryptophan and magnesium. GABA only made me messier to be honest. But yeah find a show you can binge or a video game that will get you through the worst of it. It's not easy but it is totally doable. Just find something to do on a regular basis and rest as much as you can without picking up.

Edit: Probably lay in bed for a week or two. Then start exercising (earlier if you can). Just takes a lot of willpower to not pick up and use. I'm not gonna lie, it will suck for a few weeks or a few months. But after that you'll start feeling a lot better. Meth is pretty neurotoxic (someone fact check me?) but I'd say you will recover 99.99% after 18 months or so :) Reach out if you need us.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies.

It's been just over a full 2 weeks since I last used properly and I feel better. I've stopped drinking cheap wine at home but I did go to my local bar earlier tonight to have a few drinks with a friend.

I won't lie I'm still getting cravings but I have got over the whole laying in bed 22 hours phase of meth withdrawal. Now is the hard part as Renton in trainspotting said " I'm clean now I'm over the worst of it but the boredom and depression makes you wanna top yourself"

Don't worry I am not really suicidal it's just depressing stopping something that made me feel so good for so long and to best sum it up I feel like a good friend has died while experiencing a feeling that's there's this new void in my life and something important is missing from my life.
 
Boku_ said:
Thanks everyone for the replies.

It's been just over a full 2 weeks since I last used properly and I feel better. I've stopped drinking cheap wine at home but I did go to my local bar earlier tonight to have a few drinks with a friend.

I won't lie I'm still getting cravings but I have got over the whole laying in bed 22 hours phase of meth withdrawal. Now is the hard part as Renton in trainspotting said " I'm clean now I'm over the worst of it but the boredom and depression makes you wanna top yourself"

Don't worry I am not really suicidal it's just depressing stopping something that made me feel so good for so long and to best sum it up I feel like a good friend has died while experiencing a feeling that's there's this new void in my life and something important is missing from my life.
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good to hear . keep it up
 
I Went 82 days clean then bang hit up a old contact and relapsed. Not complaining tho, the recovery was easy but now
 
Boku_ said:
I Went 82 days clean then bang hit up a old contact and relapsed. Not complaining tho, the recovery was easy but now
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Hey we all make mistakes, and I wouldn't beat yourself up over this.
You mentioned an old contract so why don't you delete these people out of your phone?
Your addiction is going to try telling you otherwise because you might convince yourself otherwise, but it's something that's going to need to be done.
You can meet new friends out there.
Not sure if you go to any fellowship group but those are good places to start. You gotta put yourself out there, ask people for their numbers.
A lot of groups might have some people that go out to eat after the meeting.
 
Hope you're hanging in there. It's a tricky one isn't it? You made it 82 days which is longer than me, so that alone is huge and shows that you've figured out a rhythm to ride out the cravings and let them pass during those first two months.

I was a bit worried but pretty certain that meth would require a very extended period of vigilance even after the cravings have gone from being routine... Seems that concern was right. Luckily nothing can erase the progress you've made, the relapse or bender is a setback but you can get back on the wagon and keep going.

One thing I've noticed having beaten alcoholism and now fighting meth addiction is that I was able to fight off alcohol 100% alone, in an introspective battle. I can tell that making the progress I have with meth recovery on the other hand simply wouldn't be possible without a lot of support that I've received... Both from familiar places and from some places I didn't expect. I encourage you to reach out and find some voices of your own to root for you and support you if you can. It helps. :)
 
Methamphetanonymous said:
Hope you're hanging in there. It's a tricky one isn't it? You made it 82 days which is longer than me, so that alone is huge and shows that you've figured out a rhythm to ride out the cravings and let them pass during those first two months.

I was a bit worried but pretty certain that meth would require a very extended period of vigilance even after the cravings have gone from being routine... Seems that concern was right. Luckily nothing can erase the progress you've made, the relapse or bender is a setback but you can get back on the wagon and keep going.

One thing I've noticed having beaten alcoholism and now fighting meth addiction is that I was able to fight off alcohol 100% alone, in an introspective battle. I can tell that making the progress I have with meth recovery on the other hand simply wouldn't be possible without a lot of support that I've received... Both from familiar places and from some places I didn't expect. I encourage you to reach out and find some voices of your own to root for you and support you if you can. It helps. :)
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Hi…I really love what you had to say. I’m a sober alcoholic too (15 years)…Now I found meth and think I’m addicted and want to stop. I’m not sure how to do it…could you give me some pointers and things you experienced. I would really appreciate it. David
 
dbk636466 said:
Hi…I really love what you had to say. I’m a sober alcoholic too (15 years)…Now I found meth and think I’m addicted and want to stop. I’m not sure how to do it…could you give me some pointers and things you experienced. I would really appreciate it. David
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hi, welcome to bluelight.
take your time browsing through the forum. you already found this thread with helpful information on quitting meth, and we do have more.
if you have any questions, just ask away.
 
dbk636466 said:
Hi…I really love what you had to say. I’m a sober alcoholic too (15 years)…Now I found meth and think I’m addicted and want to stop. I’m not sure how to do it…could you give me some pointers and things you experienced. I would really appreciate it. David
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I'm probably not the best person to lean into for your recovery as I'm only in the very beginning stages of the process myself and I'm sure I've yet to face many of the challenges that a more experience recovered user can speak to with wisdom and insight.

I'm happy to help answer any questions that I feel are within my very limited wheelhouse on this subject; but I also am not as active on drug discussion places these days as I've found there is a glaring link between my participation in discussing and researching drugs (specifically methamphetamine) and the rate and severity of relapse that I risk inciting. Can't promise I'll be hasty in my responses as I've got my own recovery to prioritize, but you're welcome to inbox me anything and I'll do my best to help.
 
I am attempting to get clean myself. I have been on and off meth since 2015. I got clean in 2016 and stayed clean until 2018 when I relapsed until 2020. I did well until this past November. I started doing it on the weekends. Then, a weekend binge turned into a bump a few times a day to get through work. Then, when I logged off from work, I would go ham.

It made my relationship weird. My husband started encouraging me to be a swinger, and while I am not a prude and it sounded intriguing, I know that would destroy our marriage. Things got darker, but we will keep it at that. I felt distant from him. I kept my distance from family when I was too high. And the meth nowadays is very very different. Most of the time it made me feel lost and spacey. I began to wonder if I had died and went to hell.

I did some research and loaded down with nootropics and supplements.

These are what I was told are best for helping to cope with withdrawal and recovery:

L-Tyrosine, L-Theanine, Alpha-GPC, Bacopa Monnieri, Rhodiola Rosea, Lion's Mane Mushroom, Ginkgo Biloba Leaf, Panax Ginseng Root, and Maritime Pine Bark, Vitamin B6, Vitamin C, Omega-3 fatty acids, Magnesium Glycinate, saffron and biotin for my hair skin and nails.

Additionally, I am taking biotin to heal my skin from the bad batch we got that made my skin and hair feel brittle.

I am also taking Wellbutrin, because there is a body of research that asserts it is a great form of MAT for meth recovery.

I will keep you all updated on how it works. I am on day two and I feel better than I expected.
 
theangryflower said:
I am attempting to get clean myself. I have been on and off meth since 2015. I got clean in 2016 and stayed clean until 2018 when I relapsed until 2020. I did well until this past November. I started doing it on the weekends. Then, a weekend binge turned into a bump a few times a day to get through work. Then, when I logged off from work, I would go ham.

It made my relationship weird. My husband started encouraging me to be a swinger, and while I am not a prude and it sounded intriguing, I know that would destroy our marriage. Things got darker, but we will keep it at that. I felt distant from him. I kept my distance from family when I was too high. And the meth nowadays is very very different. Most of the time it made me feel lost and spacey. I began to wonder if I had died and went to hell.

I did some research and loaded down with nootropics and supplements.

These are what I was told are best for helping to cope with withdrawal and recovery:

L-Tyrosine, L-Theanine, Alpha-GPC, Bacopa Monnieri, Rhodiola Rosea, Lion's Mane Mushroom, Ginkgo Biloba Leaf, Panax Ginseng Root, and Maritime Pine Bark, Vitamin B6, Vitamin C, Omega-3 fatty acids, Magnesium Glycinate, saffron and biotin for my hair skin and nails.

Additionally, I am taking biotin to heal my skin from the bad batch we got that made my skin and hair feel brittle.

I am also taking Wellbutrin, because there is a body of research that asserts it is a great form of MAT for meth recovery.

I will keep you all updated on how it works. I am on day two and I feel better than I expected.
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Well this was a failure. About had a nervous breakdown and left my husband and quit my job. Thankfully, I did neither. But I caved. Now I am sneaking around with a bag, doing little bumps to not fall apart. I do not want this for my life. My family would be ashamed. I love my job. I cannot lose it all. Feeling so lost.
 
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