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'Legal highs' should be automatically banned, says government drugs adviser

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Advisory council calls for tougher US-style system to control designer drugs that mimic effects of illegal substances
All "legal highs" or designer drugs such as mephedrone (or miaow miaow) that mimic the effects of established illegal drugs should be automatically banned, according to the government's official advisers on illicit substances.

The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) says the government needs to adopt a much tougher US-style system of controls. The recommendation comes after claims that new designer drugs have played a role in 42 deaths in the past two years.

Prof Les Iversen, the ACMD chair, said tougher controls were needed to prevent suppliers from simply tweaking the chemistry of newly banned substances to get around the law.

More than 40 new legal highs have been identified in the past two years, often emerging from laboratories in south-east Asia where chemists design new compounds that replicate the effects of already banned substances such as cannabis, amphetamine or ecstasy.

Many are marketed through online sites offering them as "plant food" or "not fit for human consumption", but their purpose is often transparent.

Iversen said the Polish government had recently taken "bold action" in closing down hundreds of "head shops" similar to those found in Camden market in north London, as well as automatically banning new legal highs.

The British government has responded by introducing a system of temporary bans on each new substance as soon as it emerges with parliamentary approval needed for each banning order before detailed tests are made to determine how harmful it is.

But the ACMD says it necessary to go further and adopt a system similar to the American "Analogue Act" under which substances bearing a chemical similarity to existing controlled substances, such as amphetamines or the active ingredient in cannabis, are banned.

"The system of temporary bans is not a winning strategy because new substances will always continue to emerge," said Iversen. "Just because it is advertised as a legal high does not mean it is safe. Users are playing a game of russian roulette when they buy something described as research drugs. They are researching the effects on themselves. It is a totally unregulated market. We are not seeing just a nice party drug but something that can kill."

The government's drug advisers also want to see existing legislation used more effectively to prevent legal highs being falsely advertised as "bath salts" or plant food, and to shift the burden of proof on to suppliers that their product is safe for human consumption.

Iversen said figures from the national programme on substance abuse deaths based at St George's hospital, south London, had logged 127 suspected cases of deaths in Britain which had links with mephedrone over the past two years. Forty-two cases were confirmed as having a link with mephedrone, although none had given the drug as the direct cause of death. So far 29 out of the 127 suspected cases had been shown to have no connection with mephedrone.

The ACMD report says a different type of drug dealer has emerged with entrepreneurs seizing on the business opportunities. "Many people importing these new substances appear to have had no previous involvement in the illicit drug trade and are just in it to make a quick buck. They have included students who have set up websites to supply nationally and who also supply the local student population."

These new dealers ensure that the market is quickly saturated with the new drug, the report adds.

But Roger Howard of the UK Drug Policy Commission thinktank warned that the tough approach was unlikely to work: "Analogue controls would save politicians from the pressure to do something when the new drugs appear on the market. But they wouldn't solve the real problem."

He said it was increasingly difficult for the police to identify the rapidly growing numbers of psychoactive drugs on the market: "Controlling even more drugs through the drug laws doesn't do anything to help that nor to prevent the harms that might emerge. We need to think differently about using other controls to bring some discipline to an unregulated market."

Greetings from Australia.
Sucks my thread isn't better news. I've always admired the UK for having the balls not to automatically have a ban on so many substances in the way that Australia does. Analogue laws can be a bitch and cause alot of confusion.
Some Australians got busted for having 4-MMC or Mephedrone, without knowing it was illegal because it was available to purchase online and it was legal in the UK.

I'll probably forget to check this thread as I tend to stick to my own continents thread. But fight the good fight bluelighters from across the world, kick up a stink. Restricting the legality of RC's is foolish and something I don't understand. Not saying they should neccesarily all be freely available, but the research element must be there. Otherwise drugs that have no reason to be banned will be.

Peace, and party safe.
 
hmmm there is a difference between legal highs and RC's though. Who the fuck knows whats in benzocrackfuryacid branded stuff that doesnt give the chemichal contents are dangerous no two ways about it, RC'S on the other hand slightly less so as you know what your taking.
 
To us there's a difference. However, I feel that to the non-drug taking public, the police and the MP's there's very little difference. Something that annoys me about these kinds of articles (one of the many things, I might add) is the way they describe "legal highs" as mimicking the effects of illicit substances, and that's why they should be banned. MXE was developed to be taken in lower doses than ketamine, for example, in order to reduce the harmful effects it can have on the bladder while still maintaining a good, dissociative high. A drug that is similar to but safer than another illegal drug should be banned. This makes very little sense. Obviously this is one of the few exceptions, with stuff like MDPV proving to be very harmful. It just annoys me how they group all these compounds together under one "evil" umbrella.
 
Things like this are just pointless in the longer run, and just criminalise (and therefore marginalise) people who are really doing nothing wrong.

Of course, the fundamental issue, which will never go away (and I feel governments really need to start accepting this) is demand. These markets only exist because there's a demand for them. Maybe the government need to look at why such demand exists, and try to look at ways of working with this rather than against this.

Unfortunately (for middle England/politicians/Law makers etc.) that a demand will exist for drugs until the end of time. Its about time they accepted that and moved on with all this.

I agree that branded crap which does not have an ingredient list (or what the proportions of each active chemical is per dose unit) are crap and dangerous, and something needs to be done about that. On the other hand, vendors selling defined amounts of aMT, MXE, MDAI, AM-2201 etc. when one knows the purity and amount of each chemical is somewhat different in my opinion to someone selling mystery tablets/powders.
 
MXE was developed to be taken in lower doses than ketamine, for example, in order to reduce the harmful effects it can have on the bladder while still maintaining a good, dissociative high. A drug that is similar to but safer than another illegal drug should be banned. This makes very little sense. Obviously this is one of the few exceptions, with stuff like MDPV proving to be very harmful. It just annoys me how they group all these compounds together under one "evil" umbrella.

This just isn't true though. There have been no safety studies conducted on methoxetamine whatsoever; for all we know if could be worse for your bladder than ketamine. Nobody knows.
 
ACMD didn't call for this until they sacked everyone who didn't feel this way.
 
Meph was a once in a generation thing, and I very much doubt it killed as many people as they claim... One things for sure it was definitely safer when it was legal. I am rather confused as to why people moan about products not having ingredients on them - I just don't take them. Even if I did know what was in them any way no one has a fucking clue what the effects or safety profile will be because the studies haven't been done. It is still highly disputed just how safe MDMA is for fuck sake!
 
Oh sure, mephedrone has been implicated in only a very small number of deaths really. I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about it's potentially very nasty cardio- and neurotoxic effects, which might well create long term problems in those people who were doing multiple grams in a weekend.

The report is here for those who want to read it:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/agencies-public-bodies/acmd1/acmdnps2011
 
I find it amusing that, chances are, the government are gonna jump all over this suggestion, say it has 'scientific backing' etc., yet they love to ignore the ACMDs advise when they want to lower cannabis to class C, or when they say MDMA isn't dangerous.
 
I find it amusing that, chances are, the government are gonna jump all over this suggestion, say it has 'scientific backing' etc., yet they love to ignore the ACMDs advise when they want to lower cannabis to class C, or when they say MDMA isn't dangerous.
Yes, there hearing and vision is somewhat.... really fucking selective isn't it? :|
Cheers for the post thestudent and hiyerrr from the UK :)
 
The Analogue Act in the US is a joke. Fuck knows how they can call it tougher than the laws we have over here. They don't even bother to enforce it.
 
They can't ban cat urine. The most potent psychedelic on earth, it made me a better human being.
 
From that report:

Further the ACMD understands that most people using NPS are not coming to the attention of specialist drug treatment services or general health services. Further, most people currently obtain information about NPS from their peers or from internet sites where drug using experiences are shared.

Rumbled.
 
The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) says the government needs to adopt a much tougher US-style system of controls. The recommendation comes after claims that new designer drugs have played a role in 42 deaths in the past two years.

In 2009/10, there were 1,057,000 alcohol related admissions to hospital. This is an increase of 12 per cent on the 2008/09 figure (945,500) and more than twice as many as in 2002/03 (510,800).
from here
 
The Amy Winehouse coroner report adds weight to the fact that the legal high 'ethanol' should be banned. In fact, lets ban the world!
I'm off to hoover up a few lines of Shake n Vac before that gets banned too.
 
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