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swilow
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It doesn't look good. Its a gif designed to exploit emotion though. Don't be sucked into thinking it depicts a typical lefty because those dudes are just thugs. Not at all left imo.
It doesn't matter how righteous your cause, when you start swinging you can fuck off.
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Yea I figured that. He looked dressed prepared for battle. Same with anti-fascists, but they were facing the other direction in the typical "black block" attire.
I can't say I really blame him, as the anti-fascists are asking for worse, but I am not condoning what is going on at all. It does make me laugh though, and shake my head.
consumer
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Interesting you frequent white supremacist websites...actually not surprised at all.
Oh and i dont care what you think about a word...
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Antifa is just as bad if not worse than neo-nazis. A lot of times the neo-nazis are peaceful until they get attacked by these idiots. Don't even get me started on the shit they put some bands through.
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Lol. Peaceful neo nazis hey. Now i have heard it all.
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I think if they had the dominant power-structure on their side they would be more ballsy. Just like Muhammad and the Muslims (even today)- as a minority, they'll play the game... As a majority, they'll set the rules.
This is human nature, and it's one reason I despise "multiculturalism" (but would love to experience true multiple cultures, by visiting).
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swilow
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I dunno if its worse but its very similar. Neo-Nazis in Russia are known to randomly attack immigrants, etc. A lot of antifa factions do similar. Humans are violent, we require little excuse when we think we are right.
I hate the shit they've put on metal bands and fans who are totally not fascists. The anti-black metal group can get fucked. I wear some metal shirts, Burzum/Darkthrone/etc, I guess I would be q fascist to them.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
But I would much much much rather hang out with an antifascist than a neonazi. At least I understand their disgust with fascism. And it should be recalled that antifa are not an organised group. There is no central 'authority'.
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106 arrests sought after California white nationalist rally
DON THOMPSON, Associated Press 2 hours 9 minutes ago
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California authorities urged prosecutors to charge 106 people over violence that erupted during a rally by self-described white nationalists outside the state Capitol building last year, officials said Wednesday.
The California Highway Patrol turned over its eight-month investigation to the Sacramento County district attorney's office, which was reviewing the 2,000-page report and hours of video, spokeswoman Shelly Orio said. She could not say how long the review would take.
The fighting broke out in June when about 30 members of the Traditionalist Worker Party were confronted by more than 300 counter-protesters. Fourteen people suffered stab wounds, cuts and bruises. Two of the injured survived critical stab wounds.
The CHP is seeking 68 felony charges and 514 misdemeanors against 106 individuals for activities ranging from unlawful assembly to assault with a deadly weapon.
Sacramento police recovered a loaded 9 mm handgun on the Capitol grounds near the clash.
Videos posted on social media showed officers on horseback dispersing protesters, some with their faces covered, while some threw stones at a man holding a stick as he was shielded by police officers wearing riot gear.
Officials said their investigation was made more difficult because many counter-demonstrators wore masks, forcing them to review surveillance and social media videos to identify the attackers.
"Many of those deliberately disguised their identity and were difficult to locate. Many refused to cooperate with investigators," CHP spokeswoman Fran Clader said.
The Traditionalist Workers Party had a permit for the rally, and more than 100 officers were present because of the expected counter-protest. Several observers who were not involved criticized officers for being too slow to intervene.
The counter-protesters did not have a permit and were there to prevent the rally, the CHP said.
"Our role is to protect free speech, but not when that speech involves violence," CHP Capt. Daniel Lamm, commander of Capitol Protection Section, said in a statement.
The Traditionalist Workers Party formed in 2015 as the political wing of the Traditionalist Youth Network, the Southern Poverty Law Center said.
"We are unapologetically nationalists, fighting to secure the existence of our people and a future for White children," the group says on its website.
Requests for comment sent to the Traditionalist Worker Party and the Traditionalist Youth Network were not immediately returned to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
Members of one group that helped organize the Sacramento counter-protest also were involved in a melee last month that prevented an appearance by political provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California, Berkeley.
Yvette Felarca, a spokeswoman for the group By Any Mean Necessary, did not immediately return a telephone message from The AP on Wednesday.
About 100 demonstrators clad in black and many covering their faces destroyed property, lit fires and vandalized businesses at and around Berkeley on Feb. 1, and one person was arrested.
Groups calling themselves "anti-fascist" organizations defended the mayhem in Berkeley as an appropriate response to what they view as hate speech.
The Capitol fight came after three people were stabbed during a confrontation a year ago between Ku Klux Klan members and counter-protesters in Anaheim.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-urge-106-charged-clash-white-nationalist-rally-011046811.html
Guess who had a permit to be there and who didn't... Big surprise.
DON THOMPSON, Associated Press 2 hours 9 minutes ago
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California authorities urged prosecutors to charge 106 people over violence that erupted during a rally by self-described white nationalists outside the state Capitol building last year, officials said Wednesday.
The California Highway Patrol turned over its eight-month investigation to the Sacramento County district attorney's office, which was reviewing the 2,000-page report and hours of video, spokeswoman Shelly Orio said. She could not say how long the review would take.
The fighting broke out in June when about 30 members of the Traditionalist Worker Party were confronted by more than 300 counter-protesters. Fourteen people suffered stab wounds, cuts and bruises. Two of the injured survived critical stab wounds.
The CHP is seeking 68 felony charges and 514 misdemeanors against 106 individuals for activities ranging from unlawful assembly to assault with a deadly weapon.
Sacramento police recovered a loaded 9 mm handgun on the Capitol grounds near the clash.
Videos posted on social media showed officers on horseback dispersing protesters, some with their faces covered, while some threw stones at a man holding a stick as he was shielded by police officers wearing riot gear.
Officials said their investigation was made more difficult because many counter-demonstrators wore masks, forcing them to review surveillance and social media videos to identify the attackers.
"Many of those deliberately disguised their identity and were difficult to locate. Many refused to cooperate with investigators," CHP spokeswoman Fran Clader said.
The Traditionalist Workers Party had a permit for the rally, and more than 100 officers were present because of the expected counter-protest. Several observers who were not involved criticized officers for being too slow to intervene.
The counter-protesters did not have a permit and were there to prevent the rally, the CHP said.
"Our role is to protect free speech, but not when that speech involves violence," CHP Capt. Daniel Lamm, commander of Capitol Protection Section, said in a statement.
The Traditionalist Workers Party formed in 2015 as the political wing of the Traditionalist Youth Network, the Southern Poverty Law Center said.
"We are unapologetically nationalists, fighting to secure the existence of our people and a future for White children," the group says on its website.
Requests for comment sent to the Traditionalist Worker Party and the Traditionalist Youth Network were not immediately returned to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
Members of one group that helped organize the Sacramento counter-protest also were involved in a melee last month that prevented an appearance by political provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California, Berkeley.
Yvette Felarca, a spokeswoman for the group By Any Mean Necessary, did not immediately return a telephone message from The AP on Wednesday.
About 100 demonstrators clad in black and many covering their faces destroyed property, lit fires and vandalized businesses at and around Berkeley on Feb. 1, and one person was arrested.
Groups calling themselves "anti-fascist" organizations defended the mayhem in Berkeley as an appropriate response to what they view as hate speech.
The Capitol fight came after three people were stabbed during a confrontation a year ago between Ku Klux Klan members and counter-protesters in Anaheim.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-urge-106-charged-clash-white-nationalist-rally-011046811.html
Guess who had a permit to be there and who didn't... Big surprise.
Jabberwocky
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300 vs 30 lol
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Unfortunately for the left right now, the white nationalists/conservatives are much better behaved, and are lauding "the left"'s behavior because it is self-destructive. Playing right to them/handing it all to them, in ways like the left say they are of radical Islam, but the thing is, we have a country here of over 60% white people (and who hold most of the power, and will even as the 'group' dwindles in numbers) which according to the narrative are all racist and guilty and need to check their privilege, and about 2% Muslims. I think pissing Muslims off is more practical. It's our country. We belong here. My ancestors colonized it and built it (and stayed north, and never owned slaves, not that I really care-- I would enslave people currently if I could- but ideally they'd live as freely as possible, even though they'd still be my slave-- my goal would be to make them even freer than now, and ideally they would just be a slave to progress, and joy). I want to protect it from Islam, and in a way, I just want to shut Islam down BECAUSE of it's goal to dominate the world (read up, I don't see how people are entertaining it when it talks so badly about them/when beliefs are held about them, why do you advocate for them? it don't compute), almost like a "tough luck asshole Muhammad"- defy "destiny".
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consumer
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You really are something special. You would enslave people if you could. Thats disgusting. You really do not belong here.
Your views are totally abhorrent.
Your views are totally abhorrent.
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Exactly, and I'm also very left-leaning toward my family, in senses, and more likely to be with close-knit in-groups that share a lot of culture and heritage, like if I were in Sweden before the recent mass migration there, and a bit more right-wing toward the out-group.
I understand, as I put quotes around it, as I hope you saw, and then with progressives, admitted that the word was imperfect ("grunt").