Mental Health Lack of legal pain relief in current pain management culture.

I sincerely apologise to all that come across that post. I was out of sorts and way out of order. I've come to my senses and deleted the post. I put my own troubles ahead of others and spewed a a toxic stream of consciousness onto the page before I thought about the considerations of others. I acknowledge that is not OK. @jerry, @Nurse Ratched and anyone else who was subjected to my self pity rant, I'm genuinely sorry to have opened old wounds or otherwise caused anyone distress.

I really appreciate your lenience and compassionate response given my inappropriate and inconsiderate behaviour.

Thank you for potentially sparing my family members from reading that. I don't know why I didn't have the wherewithal to spare anyone else from reading it.

I'm going out to touch grass for a while, now that it's dark and I will take your advice onboard.
 
I sincerely apologise to all that come across that post. I was out of sorts and way out of order. I've come to my senses and deleted the post. I put my own troubles ahead of others and spewed a a toxic stream of consciousness onto the page before I thought about the considerations of others. I acknowledge that is not OK. @jerry, @Nurse Ratched and anyone else who was subjected to my self pity rant, I'm genuinely sorry to have opened old wounds or otherwise caused anyone distress.

I really appreciate your lenience and compassionate response given my inappropriate and inconsiderate behaviour.

Thank you for potentially sparing my family members from reading that. I don't know why I didn't have the wherewithal to spare anyone else from reading it.

I'm going out to touch grass for a while, now that it's dark and I will take your advice onboard.
I wasn't bothered by your post as I really felt bad for ya. I guess some thought ( which is their right ) that it was a bit much for The Dark Side albeit the post was pretty dark.

We have a vent/rant thread in many subforums....the lounge, think there's one in health and recovery and so on. If you are of a mind you can re-post it in a different thread and it will be fine. TDS is kinda of afunny sub forum where even though all the posts are dark we try and keep things " lighter " per se as the posters are in enough misery as it is.

You didn't do anything wrong and we appreciate the apology but no biggie okay. You'll find that different sub forums and different threads are perfectly okay for what ya wrote. It's all good.
 
I want to urge anyone out there who has chronic pain to give Suboxone or Subutex a try.
Buprenorphine gives good pain relief and has been managing my low back pain and left leg pain.

The states are determined to only give “opioids- opiates” to cancer patients.
They will give Buprenorphine for “addiction” .
It is a strong opioid and you do not have to go to a clinic daily to obtain it.

My pain level has been way down since I got cut off morphine and put on Subutex.
I was thinking that I was going to have to “opt out” , after my doctor retired and I could not get morphine anymore.

Surprisingly, Subutex has been working really well.
Give it a try, if you have chronic pain and cannot find pain relief.
It has been a great change for me so far.
 
Thank you for clarifying. Naturally I'm my own worst enemy and assume the worst in myself and that others do to when I transgress. I still feel shame and guilt for expressing myself in a way that I understand can be traumatising for others, though I had no intention of making an arse out of myself and hurting people on my first day. I wasn't thinking right, clearly. I was a little to high and much to angry with myself for getting in so deep, being so weak, and tbh, tired of empty platitudes. I spoke from the heart and didn't consult the brain.

I assume I'm not the first person to have expressed feeling what it's like at rock bottom. I'm just not that smart. Yet I can be that dumb.

Far from trying to defend my actions, what I find somewhat disturbing in mental health discourse, is that we have acceptable rhetorical messages and platitudes in recognition of an individual's suffering. But there are (for good reasons) limits on what society at large are able to tolerate, for want of a better phrase, 'responsible advertiser acceptable messaging' that often fails acknowledge the thought processes of people in acute mental crisis. Often times who are the most vulnerable and closest to taking the final steps.

As a society we want to understand in a way that e feel society can fix. But the reality can be that the society realises that some people are too far gone to be brought down from the edge when it is often systemic issues that we're happy to live with, as long as we don't hear about them and can have someone interpret the events leading up to an incident such that it fits into an understandable category of mental illness, drug abuse, poverty, and so on. We move on with messages of thoughts and prayers, without understanding how and what steps a person took back and forward for goodness knows how long before we write their obituary as though we undertod them, without knowing anything about their struggles besides how we deem acceptable in a just, meritocratic world. Then we wonder with guilt, why? how didn't I see it? why didn't they tell someone how they felt? What could we do better next time? Next time will be just as surprising and ambiguous.

I'm not trying to justify my previous behaviour, nor suggest that what I said was too close to the truth anyone. I don't really know exactly what to say. I feel ashamed and guilty, much like I suspect I would had I made a failed attempt. But I do want to say thank you for your understanding and compassion, setting me straight on the time and place should I ever feel I need to blow off steam, and for taking the time and effort to reach out. I know I don't have the skillset or the courage to do that, and I just want you to know that it's deeply appreciated, and at this juncture I feel that way both you and @Jerry Atrick handled the situation was effective. Both at getting the point across as responsible members for the safety and wellbeing of the community, weighed against responding to a person in an acute phase of crisis.

For what it's worth, I feel I have a little more resilience in the tank. And in the future, I'll certainly seek more appropriate methods of asking for help should I feel at breaking point with no escape. Hopefully it won't get to that. Well at least no so fast.

Much love and respect for all yous do here and the crap you have to deal with on occasions such as the one I presented. In all honesty, not that I feel deserving for what I said, but I have been treated with more dignity, respect, empathy, and compassion here as a blo in off the street who took a dump in the wrong forum than I have from numerous suicide/crisis hotlines. I won't forget the undeserved kindness I received here.

While my incident and fallout induce some feelings of embarrassment, guilt and shame it's tempting to comeback under another handle down the track. However, I won't do that, as I'd prefer not to forget that as this handle will serve as a constant reminder that there are good people in the world who would volunteer their own time, effort and skills to help out a stranger in a time of need. I'll be reminded of that whenever I log on, and will try to pay it forward where I feel I can be of use.

Thankyou, and take care.
 
Thank you for clarifying. Naturally I'm my own worst enemy and assume the worst in myself and that others do to when I transgress. I still feel shame and guilt for expressing myself in a way that I understand can be traumatising for others, though I had no intention of making an arse out of myself and hurting people on my first day. I wasn't thinking right, clearly. I was a little to high and much to angry with myself for getting in so deep, being so weak, and tbh, tired of empty platitudes. I spoke from the heart and didn't consult the brain.

I assume I'm not the first person to have expressed feeling what it's like at rock bottom. I'm just not that smart. Yet I can be that dumb.

Far from trying to defend my actions, what I find somewhat disturbing in mental health discourse, is that we have acceptable rhetorical messages and platitudes in recognition of an individual's suffering. But there are (for good reasons) limits on what society at large are able to tolerate, for want of a better phrase, 'responsible advertiser acceptable messaging' that often fails acknowledge the thought processes of people in acute mental crisis. Often times who are the most vulnerable and closest to taking the final steps.

As a society we want to understand in a way that e feel society can fix. But the reality can be that the society realises that some people are too far gone to be brought down from the edge when it is often systemic issues that we're happy to live with, as long as we don't hear about them and can have someone interpret the events leading up to an incident such that it fits into an understandable category of mental illness, drug abuse, poverty, and so on. We move on with messages of thoughts and prayers, without understanding how and what steps a person took back and forward for goodness knows how long before we write their obituary as though we undertod them, without knowing anything about their struggles besides how we deem acceptable in a just, meritocratic world. Then we wonder with guilt, why? how didn't I see it? why didn't they tell someone how they felt? What could we do better next time? Next time will be just as surprising and ambiguous.

I'm not trying to justify my previous behaviour, nor suggest that what I said was too close to the truth anyone. I don't really know exactly what to say. I feel ashamed and guilty, much like I suspect I would had I made a failed attempt. But I do want to say thank you for your understanding and compassion, setting me straight on the time and place should I ever feel I need to blow off steam, and for taking the time and effort to reach out. I know I don't have the skillset or the courage to do that, and I just want you to know that it's deeply appreciated, and at this juncture I feel that way both you and @Jerry Atrick handled the situation was effective. Both at getting the point across as responsible members for the safety and wellbeing of the community, weighed against responding to a person in an acute phase of crisis.

For what it's worth, I feel I have a little more resilience in the tank. And in the future, I'll certainly seek more appropriate methods of asking for help should I feel at breaking point with no escape. Hopefully it won't get to that. Well at least no so fast.

Much love and respect for all yous do here and the crap you have to deal with on occasions such as the one I presented. In all honesty, not that I feel deserving for what I said, but I have been treated with more dignity, respect, empathy, and compassion here as a blo in off the street who took a dump in the wrong forum than I have from numerous suicide/crisis hotlines. I won't forget the undeserved kindness I received here.

While my incident and fallout induce some feelings of embarrassment, guilt and shame it's tempting to comeback under another handle down the track. However, I won't do that, as I'd prefer not to forget that as this handle will serve as a constant reminder that there are good people in the world who would volunteer their own time, effort and skills to help out a stranger in a time of need. I'll be reminded of that whenever I log on, and will try to pay it forward where I feel I can be of use.

Thankyou, and take care.
Hey, I'm glad you are here and I'm glad you reached out if anything because other people may feel exactly how you do and us processing all this together can potentially help others who may not have the courage to speak up about their own experiences.

Please don't be too hard on yourself. I don't think what you posted was dumb or anything to be embarrassed about. In my humble opinion, the first half of your post was entirely appropriate for the reasons I just mentioned. We only try to keep an eye on the specific triggering content. Remember, regardless of what we say here, we are all anonymous people behind the computer screen and nothing you post here can be traced back to you personally. So I think it's okay to share a little bit more on Bluelight than you may share in real life because the stigma is not attached to your name or face so to speak.

Anyways, be safe out there and I look forward to seeing you around.
 
Hey, I'm glad you are here and I'm glad you reached out if anything because other people may feel exactly how you do and us processing all this together can potentially help others who may not have the courage to speak up about their own experiences.

Please don't be too hard on yourself. I don't think what you posted was dumb or anything to be embarrassed about. In my humble opinion, the first half of your post was entirely appropriate for the reasons I just mentioned. We only try to keep an eye on the specific triggering content. Remember, regardless of what we say here, we are all anonymous people behind the computer screen and nothing you post here can be traced back to you personally. So I think it's okay to share a little bit more on Bluelight than you may share in real life because the stigma is not attached to your name or face so to speak.

Anyways, be safe out there and I look forward to seeing you around.

Thanks, Jerry. Your words mean a lot to me. As have those of Nurse Ratched, and The Painful one, among so many others that I'll only do myself and potentially the others who I fail to mention a disservice due to memory overload, rather than any attempt attempted deliberate offensive discourse. I thank you as a part of the 'bluelight collective' construct I've formed as a mental schema. I've stumbled upon the website countless times seeking information, though never thought to make an account.

One reason being, I'm kinda new to using forums, as opposed to boards such as Reddit or Dread, though not 4Chan and it's verity of spin offs. It's quiet a mental adjustment to be interacting with people as individuals with individual perspectives and character traits where I get the feeling it behoves me to get to know your personalities and individual characteristics. Rather than Reddit which is less focused upon the individual per se, but what the subreddit stands in for in lieu of the individuals that make it

Engagement there feels less personal, authentic, and really devoid of manfulness of the reality that there is someone who receives that creates that message icon, rather than it feeling as though everyone in the sub is potentially responding to inputs as though we're all GPT-3 speech simulators with internal feelings, yet reluctant to responding to it in a individualistically heartfelt way, as opposed to to an absurdly comforting deindividualized subreddit defined and somewhat predictable hivemind full of interchangeable members, and certainly less like 'normal intimate human engagement'.

TL:DR: This forum feels more like interacting with humans, which can be more confronting and difficult to adjust back to. Yet also more authentic, and also like were mover vulnerable. Hence I'm learning to be more thoughtful, less quick to respond, more inclined to think of the feelings of the person(s) to whom I'm responding and who may read this in the future. For better or worse, I've always felt more confident maintaining pseudo anonymity, if not full anonymity.

Tho, with that said, Jerry, how pseudo anonymous am I here? Should I be careful with my words with regards to clearly breaching the law on the daily. Of course discretion is advised depending on one's own threat model, and the forum is moderated to a degree, so I should assume that anything I say can and will be held against me in a court of law, depending on how interesting authorities may or may not find any credible information sufficiently in breach of the jurisdiction that overs BlueLight, and that which covers me.

So I guess to answer my onw question, keep any in mind the consequences of any form of confession, and consider making a burner account with full end to end anonymity should I feel the need to discuss a topic that may attract a persistent Police attorney. Obviously withholding any personal information that could be tied to my regular account.
 
Thanks, Jerry. Your words mean a lot to me. As have those of Nurse Ratched, and The Painful one, among so many others that I'll only do myself and potentially the others who I fail to mention a disservice due to memory overload, rather than any attempt attempted deliberate offensive discourse. I thank you as a part of the 'bluelight collective' construct I've formed as a mental schema. I've stumbled upon the website countless times seeking information, though never thought to make an account.

One reason being, I'm kinda new to using forums, as opposed to boards such as Reddit or Dread, though not 4Chan and it's verity of spin offs. It's quiet a mental adjustment to be interacting with people as individuals with individual perspectives and character traits where I get the feeling it behoves me to get to know your personalities and individual characteristics. Rather than Reddit which is less focused upon the individual per se, but what the subreddit stands in for in lieu of the individuals that make it

Engagement there feels less personal, authentic, and really devoid of manfulness of the reality that there is someone who receives that creates that message icon, rather than it feeling as though everyone in the sub is potentially responding to inputs as though we're all GPT-3 speech simulators with internal feelings, yet reluctant to responding to it in a individualistically heartfelt way, as opposed to to an absurdly comforting deindividualized subreddit defined and somewhat predictable hivemind full of interchangeable members, and certainly less like 'normal intimate human engagement'.

TL:DR: This forum feels more like interacting with humans, which can be more confronting and difficult to adjust back to. Yet also more authentic, and also like were mover vulnerable. Hence I'm learning to be more thoughtful, less quick to respond, more inclined to think of the feelings of the person(s) to whom I'm responding and who may read this in the future. For better or worse, I've always felt more confident maintaining pseudo anonymity, if not full anonymity.

Tho, with that said, Jerry, how pseudo anonymous am I here? Should I be careful with my words with regards to clearly breaching the law on the daily. Of course discretion is advised depending on one's own threat model, and the forum is moderated to a degree, so I should assume that anything I say can and will be held against me in a court of law, depending on how interesting authorities may or may not find any credible information sufficiently in breach of the jurisdiction that overs BlueLight, and that which covers me.

So I guess to answer my onw question, keep any in mind the consequences of any form of confession, and consider making a burner account with full end to end anonymity should I feel the need to discuss a topic that may attract a persistent Police attorney. Obviously withholding any personal information that could be tied to my regular account.
I've been a member of Reddit off and on for a few years and you are correct, there are so many users that it is nearly impossible to get to know anyone or communicate with folks on a personal level without opening yourself up to being trolled. However I have been a member of several other forums before finding Bluelight so I kind of knew what to expect.

If you haven't yet, please review the Bluelight User Agreement (BLUA). As long as you follow that, I don't think there should be any reason to worry about being pinged by law enforcement. Just use common sense including to remember that Bluelight is not a place to find, buy, or sell drugs also known as sourcing. I guess since sourcing could potentially get someone on law enforcement's radar, it is definitely not allowed here and will be dealt with swiftly and judiciously by the moderating staff. It's much easier just not to do it, thereby rendering a "burner" account unnecessary. Besides, using burner accounts or alts is also against the BLUA. Remember, lurkers and Bluelighters have no way of identifying you as long as you do not post any identifying information. If you keep your head on straight and like I said, use common sense then everything will be fine.

Also, in addition to the BLUA, each individual subforum has a Posting Rules/Guidelines thread listed either at the top of the forum or stickied to the top of the front page. Following all these guides makes sure everyone is safe from even needing to use a burner/alt account. Bluelight is first and foremost a site that follows Harm Reduction and includes subforums dedicated to recovery. The unique thing is that there are also subforums that veer more off topic from the genre of drugs in general. Anyways, I hope I've been helpful here. Don't be afraid to ask questions whether here or if you want to send me a PM. The only stupid questions are the ones we don't ask. Peace <3
 
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