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"(Kratom/repeated)- Expereienced- My Baby Addiction"

geoffreychaucer

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Opening my eyes I stare at the thousands of tiny dots that compose the drop ceiling above. For a few minutes I lie there as the sun shines in. Another beautiful day. I should leave it there, but another beautiful day usually means to me, another day I’m going to waste lost in this fog of pain, sadness and loneliness. That of course is only if I resist the growing urge to dose up. I glance over at my desk and see the little orange bottle in the corner. A pill made for my purposes. A pill which had begun to lift this affliction from my life. A pill which I am not taking precisely because I can’t stand sobriety.

I turn my gaze away from this potentially life saving medication to the substances I plan to do instead. A little bag of light green powder. On the label, Bali Kratom- 60 grams. This stuff is the most powerful temporary anti-depressant I know of. The hours I spend on it are the happiest hours that I have had since I stopped taking the actual anti-depressants. I let the inevitable debate continue in my head for a while. I know that I will be taking kratom today. But it makes me feel better somehow to allow myself a few minutes to make excuses, promises and allowances that I will not be able to keep. This thought alone, the thought of my own ineptitude is enough to get me up and over to the so-called pseudo-opioid.

Technically, kratom is not an opioid. The chemical structure of its active constituetns is closer to psychedelic tryptamines than to any poppy derivative. Yet I know from extensive research and my own personal experiences that kratom completes the opioid experience in all of its wonder. Grabbing my mug and a spoon I walk to the bathroom. and measure out what I consider a medium-high dose: a heaping table-spoon full. I mix the powder in the mug with water until it’s a gritty, green liquid. Yummy. I catch my gaze in the mirror I have the strange sensation that I am looking at a man in his late forties. My scruffy chin beard, messy hair and dark circles all complete this illusion and I am taken a back for a moment. Its not the kratom, that makes me look this way, it’s the depression. The pain in my mind has a physical effect on my body, wearing it out. If I continue on this path, assuming drug addiction or suicide don’t get me first, my life will be shorter than expected. Tearing my eyes from the mirror I exhale and down the entire mug. It’s extremely bitter but I resist the gagging reflex. It used to be almost impossible to take kratom in this direct method because of the taste. But I’ve either gotten used to it or the benefits of the high outweigh my initial repulsion. Rinsing out the mug to get the last bit of powder, I walk back into my room and get dressed.

Now that I’ve dosed I know the day will get better. Its comforting but until it begins to kick in, I’m going to need something else. I pump some lotion into my hand and walk back to the bathroom for my daily wack-off. I can’t wait too long though. Once the kratom kicks in, orgasms are frustratingly unattainable. After a few minutes of work, I finish and rinse the result down the drain. The first tingles of kratom combine with the post-orgasmal warmth. The two feelings are very close to one another. The only difference is length of time. Kratom is akin to a five or six hour post-orgasm euphoria. Obviously this wins out over masturbation as a source of personal pleasure.

Along with the initial wave of kratom warmth is a wave of kratom nausea. Luckily I have just the thing to cure this. I open up my vitamin bottle stash and pick out the last of my current supply: a roach from a joint I had last night. I tear of this skin and break up the resin coated weed into my bowl. Holding the lighter high enough, I let the heat turn the green, sticky plant matter brown and then black, a few times, it ignites but I carefully continue to inhale until my lungs are full. I push my thumb into the bowl smothering the last remaining embers and then continue to inhale, making sure that all of the smoke is safely within my lungs and not wandering under the door and into the hallway. Now, I hold it in. Five, ten, fifteen, twenty seconds and I exhale. By now, the smoke has little odor. I repeat this ritual like process several times. The cannabinoids cascade into my brain and combine with the kratom already settling in.. Pain has been replaced with pleasure and I am high. Life is going to be okay again. I smile as my eyes droop and I savor the nod. A little Radiohead accentuates the experience occasionally, but when I'm really high, I don't even hear the music I'm so far away.

The next hour or so I lie in the warm sea of isolation that is my kratom experience. Soon, the initial intensity begins to wane and the next stage begins: sociability! The nod is great, but for me, the reduction in inhibitions and anxiety are what I am really after. I throw on some clothes, and feel increasinly energetic. The duality of the drug is truly astonishing. Nodding one minute, speeding the next. I have some work to do at the library and I head there knowing full well that I am actually looking for people to chat up in my intoxicated, care-free state. Once in the library I run into several people and can tell they appreciate my outgoing, humorous personality. I know I do, i am on top of my game right now. Eventually I settle down for some work and I find that it flies by. The whole day does. After six hours, its still with me. That's another thing about this stuff, it last forever. Eventually, after many more bowls throughout the day, I drift off into a deep sleep. Tomorrow, I cannot use, I tell myself. Today was the last day, I think. But what am I gonna do when I wake up the next morning without hope, without pleasure, my endorphin receptors starving? Only two options: intoxication and suffering. My last thought puts a wry smile on my face: "Gonna take the high road."


Since this point, I have quit yet again and begun taking my anti-depressants like I’m supposed to. I know many out there confront much more serious addictions so I’m not saying that I am a world-weary junky or anything. For me though, kratom was a pretty heavy substance. It gave me that opioid feeling we all know and love, and for those with depression or other underlying mental issues, anything that can induce a state of calm contentedness can entice one to addiction. I thought I was playing the safe road by doing kratom instead of say, heroin, which I have pretty easy access to. And I probably was. But the lesson learned is that if life is getting you down and a substance is then getting you up, addiction will probably follow, dosen’t matter what the substance is.
 
that was a seriously awsome report , really heart touching too , i kno exactly what u mean its the same reason im on a never ending journey to get high and battling ice addiction . the report itself was so well written , the wording and all was excellent this is like something u expect to read as a book by an author or something .
 
Thank you for the report, I took to your prose immediately and with an undeniable sense of nostalgic recognition. It's always welcoming to read heartfelt, honest, and uniquely human pieces when I have the chance.

If you'll allow it, I'd just like to offer an impression I had upon finishing your report.

I think you may be taking too heavy a view of your "addiction." I was on antidepressents in the later part of my adolescent years and for me, they created far heavier a hazard than the initial diagnosis represented. I've since come to be dependent on a few choice substances to get me through my day, mainly benzodiazapines and alcohol. My views on addiction might seem alien or taboo to some, but I believe as long as what you're doing is sustainable and done in a manner that doesn't hurt others, it's perfectly reasonable to become reliant on these things to get us through the day.

I suffer a certain kind of depression myself, its root might be akin to some of yours but you didn't quite specify why you're depressed, or that if you even knew the reason.

For myself its mainly a form of misanthropic disdain for what others have deemed the "dominator" culture, a specific and parasitic refinement stemming from our sociological beginnings as a partnership society whose base was selfless and necessity for a family or tribe was valued over the selfish leanings often espoused today.

I believe what many equate to be a personal defect or disorder is mainly a line of thinking unaligned with a specific cultural construct, as Thomas Szasz illustrates in his book "The Myth of Mental Illness."

Please feel free to PM if you've any wish to talk to me about such matters, I'm always around. Thanks again for the great report.

Thou
 
Thanks for the feedback. I don't get a lot of chances to write right now because my major in school is in the sciences so it feels good when I do write, especially if its personal. Writing about drug experiences are some of my favorite things to write about because of the poignancy of the experience. I'm doing better now though but I am starting to appreciate the fact that maybe there is something about our culture that I don't groove with too well. But I have a lot more hope now off the kratom. If I didn't think it made me depressed I would be fine taking it as a form of an anti-depressant, I just find that when I don't take it after being on it for a while, my mood is decidedly bleak. So I will continue on with the perscribed anti-depressants for a while, but I know I will go back to it. Why would I do something where the short-term pleasure is outweighed by the long-term pain? Because short-term pleasure is weighted heavier in our pleasure-pain calculation centers than long-term pain is.
 
Fantastic report man. I love well written reports and you are one hell of a writer. Thank you for sharing :)
 
I wish kratom worked that well for me/gave me a nod. I started on it to ease the cold turkey of a 16mg/day over 4 year, suboxone, habit...and after about a month I got used to kratom/had relief from the withdrawal. I have been stuck on it ever since.

If I could get a goddamned nod, it would make being dependent on 15-20g of kratom each day seem worthwhile and worth my money! All I get from eating kratom now is relief from kratom withdrawal along with (sometimes) extreme dizzyness.

Consider yourself lucky.
 
Nice report! I'm knee-deep in a kratom addiction myself, and I plan to wean myself off over the next two weeks. I understand your feelings completely, that overhanging 'fear' (for lack of a better word) of the day to come, the worry about how your mind will attack itself and your thoughts will inevitably run awry and result in horrible, depressing, anxious, dysphoric thought patterns. You know yourself well enough to know that if you don't have something to help you along, you will suffer mentally. I understand this mind state all too well. :)

Kratom has brought and unbelievable amount of value to my life and state of well being. So much that I eventually worked my way up to using every day, and then using multiple times a day. I've worked my way down to only using once a day, and using a smaller dosage than I used to take, however it is still somewhat of an effort to go through a day without it. I have a trip planned in a couple weeks and kratom will be completely inaccessible to me, so I'm using that as a goal to shoot for to taper off. I'm a little behind schedule, and feel I may have pushed the envelope a little too far. It has been many months since I've gone more than a day without it, so I have absolutely no idea how my body is going to react to being without it for ~7-8 days. I think I'm at the point where I literally need to stop cold-turkey right now, and suffer the worst of the (if any) withdrawals while I'm still home. Hopefully by the time I go away, I won't feel so dependent on kratom.

When I get back home to Seattle, I know that the first thing on my mind is going to be shoving a glorious helping of lovely bali kratom down my throat and feeling that first incredible high after waiting for so long. However, after that, I really hope I can control my usage enough to not use everyday so I can retain the novelty of it. Kratom is absolutely incredible, and is by far the most useful natural psychoactive I have ever come across, however if you abuse it like I did, the novelty and magic disappears and it simply becomes routine, just like anything else. Luckily, this is the thing I chose to get addicted to and not something worse like oxy, heroin, amphetamines, alcohol, even cigarettes, I think kratom is FAR for benign than any of the aforementioned drugs.


Having said all that, I think that while yes, finding something as effective as kratom will almost inevitably result in addiction, I think it is contructive to become addicted to it for a period of time, and then force yourself to quit it and re-form a respect for the drug. At that point, when you USED to be addicted to it, and now you simply use it every now and then as a treat, and a really low dose gets you off big time.....I think that is the point where one crosses the finish line and officially is "over it"! :)

Good luck, I hope you beat your addiction and find happiness. I'm right there with ya, searching for the same thing.
 
Hey man, nice report! You definitely have a talent for writing. Hope you're finding a way to put it to good use and let your talents shine! :)

As for the kratom addiction thing--It sounds like you were/are using it like a medication: at the same time daily to treat symptoms of a real condition (depression). I did the same with poppy pods for 4 years and, while I was physically dependent, never fell into the hell of true "addiction" where my life falls apart due to drug use.

Bottom line: use is not the same thing as abuse or addiction. Just because you used kratom on a daily basis (which is the same way you'd use an antidepressant) doesn't make you a hopeless addict. I don't know much about your patterns of use but you sound like a somewhat responsible user. Just throwing that out there. Society can make you feel like a junkie when you're really using a substance to treat symptoms that don't respond to anything else in a way that DOESN'T fuck up your life.

What kind of kratom did/do you use? I've only tried the Thai leaf powder but would like to experiment with some others! Maeng Da sounds like a good one...
 
Bottom line: use is not the same thing as abuse or addiction. Just because you used kratom on a daily basis (which is the same way you'd use an antidepressant) doesn't make you a hopeless addict. I don't know much about your patterns of use but you sound like a somewhat responsible user. Just throwing that out there. Society can make you feel like a junkie when you're really using a substance to treat symptoms that don't respond to anything else in a way that DOESN'T fuck up your life.

Well said Lady :)
 
Hey man, nice report! You definitely have a talent for writing. Hope you're finding a way to put it to good use and let your talents shine! :)

As for the kratom addiction thing--It sounds like you were/are using it like a medication: at the same time daily to treat symptoms of a real condition (depression). I did the same with poppy pods for 4 years and, while I was physically dependent, never fell into the hell of true "addiction" where my life falls apart due to drug use.

Bottom line: use is not the same thing as abuse or addiction. Just because you used kratom on a daily basis (which is the same way you'd use an antidepressant) doesn't make you a hopeless addict. I don't know much about your patterns of use but you sound like a somewhat responsible user. Just throwing that out there. Society can make you feel like a junkie when you're really using a substance to treat symptoms that don't respond to anything else in a way that DOESN'T fuck up your life.

What kind of kratom did/do you use? I've only tried the Thai leaf powder but would like to experiment with some others! Maeng Da sounds like a good one...

I though maeng da sucked, Bali powder is by FAR my favorite. 2 teaspoons gets me perfect. More/less is unpredictable
 
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