kpins brand

[redsky1718]

what is the best generic kpin brand in your guys opinion?

 

[opiatekrzy]

personally, i think the flat round green/white TEVA's are the best, they are the softest pill to break in half, dissolve fast. the Klonopins wit the cursive R are hard and dont dissolve as fast i dont like them. them klonopins with the M on it (walgreens generic) i think suck just like the R ones.

 

[PsychedelicHaze]

TEVAs are the best no doubt. They have a slight cool sweet flavor when you take it sublingually lol. It's almost like a minty taste.

they're also the ones that worked best.

 

[TheRapperGoneBad]

Ive always found it interesting how generics can vary so much despite being the same chemical and the same dose.
some companies must just have their shit together.
I dont know much about benzos but I used to take lorazepam with the rs on themthat I enjoyed dissolved well and were effective.

 

[PsychedelicHaze]

Ive always found it interesting how generics can vary so much despite being the same chemical and the same dose. some companies must just have their shit together. I dont know much about benzos but I used to take lorazepam with the rs on themthat I enjoyed dissolved well and were effective.

I think it depends on the binders they use and possibly how hard it was pressed? I'm guessing some of them don't dissolve that well in the stomach or something leading to delayed effects and inconsistent levels being absorbed.

 

[cwake18]

Listed in the BDD Guidelines, directly above this thread,

4) NO GENERIC v. BRAND DISCUSSION THREADS
The only significant differences are few and far between and speculating about subjective difference between generic and brand drugs (or between different brands) is not productive.

Google this topic, I have multiple times in the past and you'll see plenty of people have already had a lengthy discussion on several sites regarding the different clonazepam brands.

Since this somehow isn't closed yet, I'll comment though lol seeing as I take the stuff daily. I've gotten several generics from multiple pharmacies, and have even had the Roche K-cut ones, find out yourself, but they're nothing special whatsoever, aren't "twice as strong" and I've become more and more convinced over the years that American pharmaceuticals (generics) really are all (to me) pretty equal. It can be in the head at times.

Personally, I always fill at CVS, they carry TEVA, so I've been taking those for a year, they work as they should. I have even taken the mylan brand which is slandered heavily, and I'll say I have had two experiences, once in 2010 took several 1mg tabs and they did jack shit, and they didn't taste right either, but took one in 2012 and was 100% legit, felt very relaxed and had an amazing nap following it.

I filled them, for the hell of it, at a different pharmacy last week and got the Actavis (cursive R ones as someone already mentioned) and honestly after taking them felt like it actually hit me for once (haven't "felt" clonaz in a longggg time, on account of being on the same dose for a year and a half), but who knows, maybe it's because I was expecting them to be special in some way. I will say they're even cooler and mintier than teva's almost, and are just as good. I used to be stuck to teva or nothing, but now after having the actavis twice, I approve and will say honestly that they're all about the same no matter what anyway.

If you prefer one over another, call around and simply ask "hi what generic manufacturer of Xmg clonazepam do you carry?" And they'll tell you. I did this once, called like 5 places and they all had different brands. Do it until you find what you want, and if you really prefer brand, ask for it. I've gotten brand at walgreens as well as CVS, with no issues. Other than it's expensive as balls unless you get your doctor to write a letter to your RX insurance saying brand is necessary, which I had successfully done and lowered the price to reasonable. It's insane that Roche Valium brand name has been out for it's 51st year now, and a brand name RX will run you $300-400 without insurance. As if their diazepam is derived from gold or something. It is insane. Generic of the same has been bought for $2 for the whole bottle. I think after half a century they should give up extreme profits if they're still hoping to sell their brand name over the generics at all, because no drug formulary I've been able to find covers ANY brand name benzos...

Sorry for long post. But my advice, google "best generic clonazepam" and you'll find plenty of good posts.

 

[PsychedelicHaze]

^^ Good post. Whatttt 3-400$ for a bottle of roche valiums? Holy shit...Anti-depressants and anti-psychotics aren't that surprising like abilify and lexapro to be very expensive but damn.

 

[cwake18]

^^ Good post. Whatttt 3-400$ for a bottle of roche valiums? Holy shit...Anti-depressants and anti-psychotics aren't that surprising like abilify and lexapro to be very expensive but damn.

Actually, my mistake I was a bit off. I have Caremark RX prescription insurance, which is really good and has $7 maximums on generics no matter quantity and covers plenty of brand name stuff very well too.

I just used the price calculator tool through my account on their site and for 90 tablets of 10mg brand name Roche Valium at my local Walgreens it is $653. Annually it said $7900. I thought no way and put in a different calculation of simply 30 tablets 5mg Roche brand name, still $134. Three years ago I got 30 5mg brand name Valium from there and it was like $103. Yeah, it's unbelievable. 75 cents per milligram for friggin Valium.

 

[PsychedelicHaze]

8gs a year for valiums fuck that!!!!! Roche must be crazy lol...yet I'm sure people who wipe their ass with money do pay for brand name.

That's an awesome insurance by the way lol

 

[cwake18]

8That's an awesome insurance by the way lol

Were you bein sarcastic or?

I know it's not the greatest and some people get their scripts at Walmart or whatever shit for $4 and such (basic generic things like antibiotics and stuff) but I don't know many people who pays much less for stuff. My kpin script costs me $2.09 a month. I've never paid $4 for a benzo prescription. My 90x1mg generic Xanax would be like $3 and change at walgreens. I know I lot of people have "RX insurance" but I guess I never thought what other people have, or what level.

 

[PsychedelicHaze]

Nah man I was being serious.

 

[cwake18]

Ha ok well thanks then. Yeah it's fairly good. I was prescribed #120 0.5mg Klonopin by my doctor last year and I got the brand name tablets at Walgreens, it cost $218.xx. I realized I could have my doctor fill out a form for my RX insurance saying that the brand name was necessary for x-y-z reasons and that generic(s) had been tried and less adequate, they approved the request for coverage, and the next time I filled the 120 tabs it cost something like $65. That's incredibly reasonable for that many Roche brand name K-pins with the K punched out of them, I was impressed. When I got #60 of 1mg brand name, it was even less, just under $60, due to less tablets I assume. Thru my insurance, once they approve a request like that from a doctor, then the maximum copay for the prescription from that point on will never exceed $75 for the brand name, even if I got prescribed say #120 2mg (higher dose tabs are higher cost, more tabs=more expensive as well) which is great because as you can see, it'd be worth WAY more retail cost-wise, but for 4x the amount of clonazepam, it would've cost maybe $10 more, for brand tabs. Anyway, enough about my insurance costs.

Brand name benzos in the US are over-priced. Buying Rivotril (Roche's international Klonopin), Valium, or Xanax/Xanor/Tafil (Pfizer's international brand name Alprazolam) internationally is so freaking cheap in other countries. People literally walk out of their pharmacy or doc's office with a BOX (blistered) or sealed Bottle of their benzo tablets, whether it be rivotril, valium, or xanax, and it's usually free or extremely cheap. I hope this does not count as price discussion, if so, mods feel free to cut this all out but it is not illicit or talking about sites/dealers prices, but rather pharmacy ballpark prices.

Anyway, as an example, I mentioned above how expensive brand name Valium is here in America, but the international Roche Valium 10mg blue tablets scored one side that say "ROCHE 10" are easily attainable for nickels/dimes on the dollar compared to US pharmacy cost.

Back to OP's question. Personally, I answered it already and I have read many people talk about the various generics and their experiences. For generic clonazepam brands you've got: TEVA, Mylan, Qualitest, Actavis, Watson, Sandoz, Accord, Caraco, and Apotex. There may be one or two random others, but in US at least, that's all that there are, and the worst reviews I've read are regarding Caraco, Mylan, and Accord. Not sure about Apotex, it seems it it very rare. All the others are essentially equal. I will admit, I personally have tried the Accord generic and dude, they're bad. Like really bad. I took them back to the pharmacy after taking just 10 of them and had them exchange them for their Actavis generic they had in stock. I was convinced they were fake; they crumbled easily, dissolved easily in the mouth as if they had poor quality binders, and in general had absolutely zero effect and were 100% devoid of the characteristic "minty" taste of clonazepam tablets. Accord is apparently some recent generic startup company from India that's parent company surprisingly is Intas, the great maker of the popular/common Etilaam brand Etizolam tablets. Regardless, they seemed like sugar pills to me, learning afterwards they weren't made in the US at all, and the pharmacist at the store I got my rx filled at literally said to me "Yeah you know that's funny you say they had no effect on you [and are exchanging] because I am prescribed clonazepam and got them filled here, received the Accord brand and I, as well, feel like they really don't do anything at all for my anxiety."
This was a red flag. Anyway that's all, I'm anticipating closure of this thread any time, but place trust in generics and one day you will appreciate them (if you don't already) for the quality products that they are.


-c18

 

[sonicwhite]

Tell em your swiss and you demand them to lower it lol....Na, I like the qualitest klonopin and I just one day popped into the pharmacy and thats what they had for 1 mg.....They dissolve like in seconds under the tongue and there not minty either....I think there closer to the K cuts than anything but Mylan just sucks and I hate Teva. Purepac is alright......Sandoz are good.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

8gs a year for valiums fuck that!!!!! Roche must be crazy lol...yet I'm sure people who wipe their ass with money do pay for brand name.

That's an awesome insurance by the way lol

Not as awesome as having an aboriginal status card in canada.
I have never had to pay for any prescription, even kpins and narcotics

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Sorry, brand name vs. generics discussion is not permitted on this board per the guidelines.

I'm going to close this. PM me if you have any questions.