Ketamines Chemical Forumla Question

[boiledfruit]

Hey everyone. I am trying to find an answer regarding Ketamine's chemical formula in relation to 3-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE (MXE). I can find the chemical formula "(±)-2-(2-Chlorophenyl)-2-(methylamino)cyclohexanone" off of erowid but I'm curious if there is a formula for Ketamine similar to the way I wrote MXE above.

To make it easier I am just wondering if MXE is closer to PCE or to ketamine. Anyone with super chemistry knowledge please enlighten me.

Thanks

 

[sekio]

It's close to both. Probably closer in terms of effects, dosage, and duration to ketamine, however. The closest related drug in active use is tiletamine though.

PCE is N-ethyl-phencyclamine (PCE)
MXE is 3'-methoxy-2-oxo-N-ethyl-phencyclamine (3'-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE)
Ketamine is 2'-chloro-2-oxo-N-methyl-phencyclamine (2'-Cl-2-Oxo-PCM)
Tiletamine is a modified 2-oxo-N-ethyl-phencyclamine.

 

[helium-4]

3-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE is just a short hand of 2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone

You really should just look up pictures of both ketamine and methoxetamine to see the difference in structure. Not sure if ketamine has a short hand like that, but following similar logic 2-chloro-2-oxo-PCM. Anyway here is the difference in chemical structure - Ketamine has a Cl (chlorine) at the second carbon on the phenyl group (benzene ring), and only a methyl (CH3-R) group on the amine (nitrogen). Methoxetamine on the other hand doesn't have a Cl at the second carbon, and instead has a methoxy group (ch3O-R) at the third carbon on the phenyl group, as well as an ethyl (CH3CH2-) group on the amine (nitrogen).

damn sekio beat me to it, stay in your own forum :D

 

[Aboy699]

i have some

Whats your point? Please don't post irrelevant posts like this, especially just to tell us you have drugs. At least contribute something to the OP - Cloudy

 

[huolesoh]

although i read shulgin once said "don't be fooled into thinking two chemicals will have similar effects just because they look alike"

take DiPT and DPT for example !

although he does not specialise much into dissociatives and nor do i so they could work differently...

 

[boiledfruit]

Perfect, thank you! Just wanted to make sure K didn't end with a 'PCE'