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Ketamine therapy thru doctor

Man do you need a history of antidepressants usage to get this prescription through a telehealth clinic? I feel like last time i saw anything on this you could just send like $150 to one for an interview and then say 'im sad' and they send you a big ole bottle of ket pills/lozenges
 
Yes and I'm a very vocal about praising ketamine for it's legitimate medical values. I was doing ketamine therapy twicd a month, this was when I was getting clean again. This clean stint was 4 years long. It helps with emotional issues and can also nullify withdrawal symptoms.

It wasn't super expensive and I had to pay out of pocket too.
 
I'm very interested in trying this. I was on a myriad of anti-depressants for somewhere between 4-6 years to no avail. The withdrawals were horrific and I never want to go on them again but I would definitely be up for trying this. What country are you in if you dont mind me asking?
 
United States. Ketamine clinics are allowed i don't know the state laws for it. Its nice, I just looked it up there doing home visits now.

At that point I'd probably just go get some k lol.
 
I could have some in 10 minutes but I'm trying to steer away from self medicating, but yeah I get you.

I just found out through an employee I know that works from my doctor that he still hasnt sent off my form to the HSE (Irelands National Healh Service). I am absoloutely fucking fuming here folks, I've had to take 20mgs of Trannex so I wouldnt go absoloutely apeshit. What the fuck is this guys deal?! Why would he not want me to go to a psychologist? He doesnt know I'm aware that he hasnt sent it off and I was told this in confidence so I cant approach him directly about it.

I can still schedule an appointment with him and tell him I'm in dire circumstances as regards my anxiety. I'll ask him out straight if he sent it off and I'll see if he lies about it. I have an agreement with him where I let him use my medical card so the very least he can do is write me a prescription for some Diazepam. If I dont get to a psychologist soon I'm going to have a bloody breakdown with how pronounced my anxiety and depression is. This is not something I can simply think my way out of.

Pardon the rant.
 
I could have some in 10 minutes but I'm trying to steer away from self medicating, but yeah I get you.

I just found out through an employee I know that works from my doctor that he still hasnt sent off my form to the HSE (Irelands National Healh Service). I am absoloutely fucking fuming here folks, I've had to take 20mgs of Trannex so I wouldnt go absoloutely apeshit. What the fuck is this guys deal?! Why would he not want me to go to a psychologist? He doesnt know I'm aware that he hasnt sent it off and I was told this in confidence so I cant approach him directly about it.

I can still schedule an appointment with him and tell him I'm in dire circumstances as regards my anxiety. I'll ask him out straight if he sent it off and I'll see if he lies about it. I have an agreement with him where I let him use my medical card so the very least he can do is write me a prescription for some Diazepam. If I dont get to a psychologist soon I'm going to have a bloody breakdown with how pronounced my anxiety and depression is. This is not something I can simply think my way out of.

Pardon the rant.
No problem man I get it.

That's nuts your in Ireland. Idk what the process is like out there.

Around here in USA they start you off pretty heavy. I went in every two weeks to get infusions.

Once you get through the main brunt of your treatment you can go back for boosters every 2 - 4 weeks.

I stopped going after a year.


Man do you need a history of antidepressants usage to get this prescription through a telehealth clinic? I feel like last time i saw anything on this you could just send like $150 to one for an interview and then say 'im sad' and they send you a big ole bottle of ket pills/lozenges

Sorry I didn't see this last time. Ketamine therapy is not a first line treatment you have to have some pre requisites.

You usually go in for an evaluation and give them your history and how you've treated your depression and trauma. I had just recently gotten out from being locked up and was trying to find a way to not use again and they approved me.

You need a history of depression and regular medication not working out for you. My addiction history actually helped me get in for it.
 
I have a long history of Treatment Resistant Depression so I think I should stand a good chance at being approved as a candidate. I'd have to go through my journals to find the names of the medications that didnt work - but I tried at least five or six over several years, then combinations and ultimately Lithium. After the lithium treatment didnt work I was more or less told that there wasnt much more they could do for me in terms of medications. This was back before Ketamine treatment was available. The medication was always in combination with talk therapy too.

I still think I could benefit from some talk therapy, however my ability to communicate and interact with people has taken a sharp downturn over the past two years. If ketamine treatments could give me just that little boost I'd be able to open up more I feel. Im at the stage where I cant even concentrate and likely wouldnt remember a therapy session were I to attend one as I've been dissociating more than ever. I'll still give it a go as self medicating just isnt sustainable. If I'm still on the verge of catatonia when I have some more soild sober time under my belt I'll inquire about it...anyway I wont go off on a rant.

I do have some questions for you if you dont mind me asking mate:
How long did it take for you to notice a difference? How did you feel when it did? Also, why did you stop after a year? What pre-requisites did you have to meet (eg how many medications did you try that didnt work; how long were you depressed before trying ketamine treatment; were you able to hold down a job; communicate with people)? Its been over 20 long years for me and I cant do another 20. I feel this is about as bad as it gets. Thanks in advance.
 
I have a long history of Treatment Resistant Depression so I think I should stand a good chance at being approved as a candidate. I'd have to go through my journals to find the names of the medications that didnt work - but I tried at least five or six over several years, then combinations and ultimately Lithium. After the lithium treatment didnt work I was more or less told that there wasnt much more they could do for me in terms of medications. This was back before Ketamine treatment was available. The medication was always in combination with talk therapy too.

I still think I could benefit from some talk therapy, however my ability to communicate and interact with people has taken a sharp downturn over the past two years. If ketamine treatments could give me just that little boost I'd be able to open up more I feel. Im at the stage where I cant even concentrate and likely wouldnt remember a therapy session were I to attend one as I've been dissociating more than ever. I'll still give it a go as self medicating just isnt sustainable. If I'm still on the verge of catatonia when I have some more soild sober time under my belt I'll inquire about it...anyway I wont go off on a rant.

I do have some questions for you if you dont mind me asking mate:
How long did it take for you to notice a difference? How did you feel when it did? Also, why did you stop after a year? What pre-requisites did you have to meet (eg how many medications did you try that didnt work; how long were you depressed before trying ketamine treatment; were you able to hold down a job; communicate with people)? Its been over 20 long years for me and I cant do another 20. I feel this is about as bad as it gets. Thanks in advance.

So i had gotten out from a year and a day prison sentence. I was really like not wanting to mess around anymore stuff was very bleak. I lost everything too while I was in.

I really wanted to get my shit together I knew needed medication but I needed to do something different from what rehabs want you to do. Rehab is like you can take some anti depressants and we are going to give you shit for it the whole time. Your adhd diagnosis isn't real your a liar you just want drugs.

I have major complex childhood trauma that I have almost blacked out of my head. I would love to try to challenge that but I'm 31. I just kind of want to live my life. I think that I'm to blame for alot, I think some of it is my fault I was a bad person.

Through out my life as an addict I've dealt with some brutal stuff as well. I truly believe that if I was given medication as a child I would have lived a normal life and probably succeeded at my professional interest. So with this mind set I wanted get rediagnosed by a specialist and I wanted way to help block out negative emotions and triggers. Obviously intravenous ketamine infusions would greatly help with this.

The area I live in isn't too bad but if you go up a few streets it turns into a third world country full of drug dealers and drug seekers.
If your not doing something professional your going to be apart of the "culture" I guess lol.

I did not want this too happen i wanted to try to go back to school for something and try to actually get my shit together with the help of legal medications. I succeeded i got diagnosed got my adderall back and the ketamine infusions really helped.

It's really helpful with like how you respond to things. I had put up with alot of shit when I got out and I felt almost like liberated from having a reaction like I would usually have had. I had minimal anxiety on it and could talk pretty well to people while doing it. It also really makes you not crave anything.

I didn't crave dope, I didnt crave ciggs I didn't crave porn. It's a great reset sort of and you can build positive habits to replace negative ones during this. I started running and lifting, I journaled. I worked on my hobbies and created things.

Im sure I could get boosters still. Once I finished up my legal stuff and started school I started to just do my adderall and I was doing school so much I felt like I didn't need the ketamine anymore. I was doing so much school and working. I became very isolated for like 4 years. Like really minimal to no human contact. I lost alot of my minimalist spirituality stuff in the pursuit of some form of professional career i guess.

I did recently start using iv heroin and meth again this happened last year. I haven't been as reckless as I was in my younger years I definitely regret it but it's apart of the cycle I guess. This is my only form of talking to people currently so I try to interact and I may start going to meetings again. I made account on here to see what other people do for like recovery stuff.

This is not the fault of the ketamine therapy i do not blame it at all, maybe I should have kept going. It is limited after a few years I feel you get the most out of it during your first year. I wouldn't have been able to deal with alot stuff I had to do if I hadn't been on it and I'm grateful for that.

Edit: I have been on multiple different anti depressant, stimulant, benzo medication schedules through out my life. I need the stims but the ketamine is way better than modern day SSRI's.

Sorry if my spelling or English is bad I'm on my phone lol.
 
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