StoneHappyMonday
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Ketamine +, experienced user, "Shared Hallucinations"
I am 38 with over 20 years drug use experience. The following events occurred last weekend at my house. People present were myself, my girlfriend (L), and a male friend (B).
The *session* had begun at 12.30am, Saturday morning with the oral ingestion of approx. 150mg crystal MDMA per person. Over the next 12 hours a gramme of base amphetamine was equally divided between three and snorted at regular intervals. At 3am another approx. 125mg crystal MDMA was also taken orally by each person. Copious amounts of cannabis, as is usual for this group, was also smoked.
A good time was had by all.
But that's not the point.
By 6pm Saturday evening no-one had been to sleep and it was decided to start over.
2 Smiley MDMA pills, untested, were taken by each person.
By 7pm they were working.
(Times from here become very approximate, I had better things to do than study the clock)
9pm. Myself and B take 2 large lines of ketamine powder by snorting. L takes 1 line. K- hole ensues. Again this is not the point.
Midnight. One more time. B takes 2 large lines of ketamine. I do 1 large line. L does about three-quarters of the amount I have done.
Now the interesting part.
My girlfriend and I sprawled next to each other on the sofa while B changed the music to acid techno before laying out on the floor below us. Immediately the K kicked in I lost track of the music, despite it being a familiar tune. This is normal for K (I find) but still deserves mention because I feel the acid techno was integral to the experience despite the fact I couldn't *hear* it. I really do find the rhythms of acid techno have the ability to shape an experience.
Anyway... *normal* K-space ensued for a while, i.e massive disassociation, the room splitting up into a thousand pieces any of which I could focus on if I wanted to. For example, B was laying on the floor to my left but I could see him quite clearly through the corner of my right eye even when I turned my head away from him. Great. But still not quite the point.
After *a while* (c'mon this was ketamine) the experience for me became more salvia like. By this I mean more trippy, more weird than is usual even for K. I started to see B disappearing, turned and realised that L was disappearing too. And myself.
Even at this point I find it impossible to panic on ketamine. Instead I held L's hand as it floated in a ghost-like manner in mid-air. Later I was to discover that this was exactly what L was seeing too and thus it became our first shared hallucination.
There was more. As I held L's hand I became aware (I had a feeling) that she was experiencing exactly the same things as me. We seemed to take off in mid-air. I thought we were on a dragon boat. Never before on K have i had such a desire to speak and ask someone a question. I asked L, in Keta talk, what she was seeing.
"We are on a gondola riding through the air"
Close enough?
I'm not sharing this from some ego perspective of "Wow, look what happened to me" and I can ultimately prove none of it to anyone but myself. But in 22 years taking psychedelic drugs I have never had such an obvious shared experience. Coming out of the experience I was showered with elation that I would normally associate with evangelical Christians. For 2 days I have been incredibly happy.
Like I said, I've done drugs for years and had many experiences. But this isn't an LSD "Ooh did you see the lamp go a bit yellow, yes I think so"
This is my living room changing into a flying boat and 2 people seeing it. And my girlfriends arm disappearing from the wrist to the elbow and 2 people seeing it. To me that's quite a big thing.
Finally, B was not witness to any of this. He remembers nothing. K does this to him sometimes. Has anyone else had a similarly powerful shared hallucination?
Communal consciousness just got more possible.
I am 38 with over 20 years drug use experience. The following events occurred last weekend at my house. People present were myself, my girlfriend (L), and a male friend (B).
The *session* had begun at 12.30am, Saturday morning with the oral ingestion of approx. 150mg crystal MDMA per person. Over the next 12 hours a gramme of base amphetamine was equally divided between three and snorted at regular intervals. At 3am another approx. 125mg crystal MDMA was also taken orally by each person. Copious amounts of cannabis, as is usual for this group, was also smoked.
A good time was had by all.
But that's not the point.
By 6pm Saturday evening no-one had been to sleep and it was decided to start over.
2 Smiley MDMA pills, untested, were taken by each person.
By 7pm they were working.
(Times from here become very approximate, I had better things to do than study the clock)
9pm. Myself and B take 2 large lines of ketamine powder by snorting. L takes 1 line. K- hole ensues. Again this is not the point.
Midnight. One more time. B takes 2 large lines of ketamine. I do 1 large line. L does about three-quarters of the amount I have done.
Now the interesting part.
My girlfriend and I sprawled next to each other on the sofa while B changed the music to acid techno before laying out on the floor below us. Immediately the K kicked in I lost track of the music, despite it being a familiar tune. This is normal for K (I find) but still deserves mention because I feel the acid techno was integral to the experience despite the fact I couldn't *hear* it. I really do find the rhythms of acid techno have the ability to shape an experience.
Anyway... *normal* K-space ensued for a while, i.e massive disassociation, the room splitting up into a thousand pieces any of which I could focus on if I wanted to. For example, B was laying on the floor to my left but I could see him quite clearly through the corner of my right eye even when I turned my head away from him. Great. But still not quite the point.
After *a while* (c'mon this was ketamine) the experience for me became more salvia like. By this I mean more trippy, more weird than is usual even for K. I started to see B disappearing, turned and realised that L was disappearing too. And myself.
Even at this point I find it impossible to panic on ketamine. Instead I held L's hand as it floated in a ghost-like manner in mid-air. Later I was to discover that this was exactly what L was seeing too and thus it became our first shared hallucination.
There was more. As I held L's hand I became aware (I had a feeling) that she was experiencing exactly the same things as me. We seemed to take off in mid-air. I thought we were on a dragon boat. Never before on K have i had such a desire to speak and ask someone a question. I asked L, in Keta talk, what she was seeing.
"We are on a gondola riding through the air"
Close enough?
I'm not sharing this from some ego perspective of "Wow, look what happened to me" and I can ultimately prove none of it to anyone but myself. But in 22 years taking psychedelic drugs I have never had such an obvious shared experience. Coming out of the experience I was showered with elation that I would normally associate with evangelical Christians. For 2 days I have been incredibly happy.
Like I said, I've done drugs for years and had many experiences. But this isn't an LSD "Ooh did you see the lamp go a bit yellow, yes I think so"
This is my living room changing into a flying boat and 2 people seeing it. And my girlfriends arm disappearing from the wrist to the elbow and 2 people seeing it. To me that's quite a big thing.
Finally, B was not witness to any of this. He remembers nothing. K does this to him sometimes. Has anyone else had a similarly powerful shared hallucination?
Communal consciousness just got more possible.
P