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Opioids Keeping opiate tolerance to a minimum

Opiates are a tough thing and most of us know it. I can honestly say I thought I didn't have a problem for most of my life. I've dabbled and did my share and stopped when I wanted. But these last few years it's just had such a hold on me and I've tried repeatedly to stop, but I never seem to got more than 3-4 weeks tops and that's with suboxone. It may start with vics or perks but eventually it will consume you. But it's like beating a dead cow because even with warning people still have to experience it for themselves. I guess that's just the way life is sometimes. I wish opiates didn't have such a hold on me.... :(
 
cant this sort of thing happen with any drug use, although they may not be as addicting as opiates doing any drug could lead to an addiction. most addictions start out with people occasionally using and saying there not gonna get addicted but then look how many addicts there are.
 
I have a huge problem with those stating that the original poster is already addicted and that addiction is inevitable and so on and so forth. It's like telling every person that eats cake they're bound to become fat and develop diabetes. True, a certain percentage will become fat and develop diabetes, but a certain percentage will not.

I have been using opiates (oxycodone, hydrocodone, oxymorphone, heroin...) for almost two years now and I have yet to experience negative consequences: my grades in school have remained virtually the same; I continue to work part time as I always have and, in fact, I have recently been promoted; I continue to pay my bills and I have never made a late payment...

I suppose one might argue that I am a "functional addict," but in my opinion an addict is someone who has developed a physical dependence and needs to use, or someone who chooses their substance of choice in the face of negative consequences. I have experienced neither physical dependence nor negative consequences, and in my honest opinion I am not an addict. I can't imagine that after two years, addiction will soon catch up with me. (What? In three years? Four years?)

That being said, I can sympathize with the aforementioned concerns. In fact, all I really have to say is that I got lucky, extremely lucky. I had no idea before dabbling in opiates what type of person I would turn out to be. I might have been prone to addiction in which case it would have been a matter of time. This is the case for many people, and, in retrospect, knowing now how high the stakes really were, I don't think that I would haven chosen to experiment with opiates in the first place.
 
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^ +1. I was reading this thread and wondering why the hell everyone is being so dramatic about it. Yes, we all know opioids can be extremely addictive. However, OP is not an addict yet and he wants advice on how not to be!

Once a week works for me, JonTheBaptist. If I find myself using more then that, I know I need to step back and get my mind off opioids because I did used to use everyday.
 
I would second that, once a week. Typically, I will pick up enough pills or whatever for the weekend or for a couple days.

I used to use more often than that as well, but the constipation was enough to convince me that using two days consecutively and taking a shot of miralax between days might be all that I can get away with.
 
I like the title of this thread.

Ah, the junkies dilemma :D



But really,

JamtasticX said:
Theres talk of dxm being able to block or reverse tolerance, but lets be honest here, if you're talking about ways to avoid an addiction to opiates, don't you see the future is sort of already spelled out?
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+1 ^
 
I also use norco 2-3 times a week. I not addicted cause don't notice any withdrawal. Amazing thng after 2 days without it my body and mind cares less about using it again like it forgets about it. I also body build so exercise helps brain. As much as I love the high I will never allow myself to use daily. Matter of fact after few days I get bored of the high. Plus side I get from my doc too for pains from heavy lifting.
 
You lift in the gym and get prescribed pain meds for when it hurts? I would love to see your doctor!
Back on topic, i follow the same schedule as the hulk, with 2-3 days in between. I also supplement with dxm, it seems to work, because when I forgot to take it a couple of times the dose seemed a little less warm and fuzzy. And I don't think it was placebo because I didn't realize I forgot until after I noticed that the high was somewhat diminished on the majority of these occasions.
My tolerance has remained very steady.
 
Kind of an old thread, but in regards to the post of above me: How much dxm is a normal dose in order to *try* and keep tolerance down, or at least at a steady level.
 
I feel like your questions were not answered... Just alot of "you're doomed" answers.

I started taking percocet a year ago. I am not an addict, however, I am dependent. That being said, I don't think many people know that there is a difference in the two.

I take, on average, 30mg of percocet for about 2 weeks out of the month. That has been the dose I've been taking for 3 months now. For the past 3 months I have also been taking DXM regularly... So I am guessing that the DXM has something to do with that. I also take half a bottle of antacids a day - don't know if that has any play (if you can attest to this - please do.)

I have NEVER in the past year thought about, considered, attempted to buy or do or switch to, or try heroin. I know for a fact that I would never resort to it &I have no desire to ever feel that strong of an opiate. I like opiates, clearly, but heroin does not interest me or anything.

I feel the aftermaths after stopping opiates after a 2 week binge - but I almost get tired of the buzz and enjoy being clear minded for a bit. That being said, I also know in the back of my mind that I will enjoy them again.

I never over-spend, I always make sure all of my bills are paid before buying them. I also have easy access to them.

Maybe I am one of the few and far between, but opiates/percocet has never worried me in the sense of ruining my life. Maybe it's because 30mg isn't alot? (I don't really know what 'alot' is considered to be...)

Just maintain control of yourself. If you start to notice your tolerance climbing, or you losing control of your money, or becoming angry when you can't medicate - then plan your taper plan &knock it the fuck off?

Does anybody else feel this way? Or am I crazy? ;)
 
I've been doing 10mg of oxy XR twice a week for the past 4 months.
It still works very strong... maybe not as strong as in the beginning. But i wouldnt wanna increase dosage.

But i notice that when it stops working, i'm more depressed/social anxious than i used to.
And the day after i can feel a bit more socially anxious/depressed as well.
And i think about getting high quite a lot during my sober days.

So i can see that even low dose twice a week can cause more depression/anxiety which can easily lead to using more,
and suck you down in an addiction.

If you play with opiates or benzo's,
u better stick to low doses and infrequent using... and write on a drugcalendar how often and what u use.
And follow ur rules strictly


@weliveinawheel,
i've thought about smoking heroin,
but i'd never do it because it's impure and i can see that oxy is already pretty hard psychologically. (what goes up must come down..)

I feel in control as well,
but I believe addicts whhen they say they all felt in control at first,
and suddenly they crossed an invisible line and got burned.

the problem is that drugs can change how we feel and think,
even if we dont plan them to. our personality and emotions are stored in our brain,
and just like a serious concussion.. drugs can probably alter our personalities as well.
 
weliveinawheel said:
I feel like your questions were not answered... Just alot of "you're doomed" answers.

I started taking percocet a year ago. I am not an addict, however, I am dependent. That being said, I don't think many people know that there is a difference in the two.

I take, on average, 30mg of percocet for about 2 weeks out of the month. That has been the dose I've been taking for 3 months now. For the past 3 months I have also been taking DXM regularly... So I am guessing that the DXM has something to do with that. I also take half a bottle of antacids a day - don't know if that has any play (if you can attest to this - please do.)

I have NEVER in the past year thought about, considered, attempted to buy or do or switch to, or try heroin. I know for a fact that I would never resort to it &I have no desire to ever feel that strong of an opiate. I like opiates, clearly, but heroin does not interest me or anything.

I feel the aftermaths after stopping opiates after a 2 week binge - but I almost get tired of the buzz and enjoy being clear minded for a bit. That being said, I also know in the back of my mind that I will enjoy them again.

I never over-spend, I always make sure all of my bills are paid before buying them. I also have easy access to them.

Maybe I am one of the few and far between, but opiates/percocet has never worried me in the sense of ruining my life. Maybe it's because 30mg isn't alot? (I don't really know what 'alot' is considered to be...)

Just maintain control of yourself. If you start to notice your tolerance climbing, or you losing control of your money, or becoming angry when you can't medicate - then plan your taper plan &knock it the fuck off?

Does anybody else feel this way? Or am I crazy? ;)
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How long have you been using for?
 
Hey everyone if you want to keep your tolerance down and not abuse your prescribed meds and make your pills last longer do what I do. I just bought what they call a kitchen safe for $50 it is a timed opening device that you can set up to only let you get your pills every 4,6,8,12 hours. The thing will not open until the time is up that you set it to. So what I do is set it to when I get up in the morning at 8am I get my pills for the day then set it to open in 8 hours to get more. This has really really helped me a lot. Now there has been times when I just wanted to break the dang thing and get them but I didn't thank god. So everyone if you are having this kind of issue I strongly suggest spending $50 and make your pills last longer and keep your tolerance down. I have found that if you have a little self control and tell yourself I'm only going to get the prescribed dose and lock the thing back before I can change my I mind, then it works, I can't get them after I lock it back up. That's just my two cents lol Jeremy
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
That's what I figured.. I don't think using for a year, entitles you to claim you've mastered the whole addiction and control thing.. tons of people can have control like that for many years before things fall apart. You've been using for 2 seconds.
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I know that I haven't mastered it and I have been doing my pills for over 10+ years, one day at a time
 
Reading these kind of threads is always upsetting: trust me, new members, new users and you guys lurking anonymously - the odds of you being able to use opiates and not develop an addiction of some description are infinitesimally small. Telling yourself you won't become an addict is as arrogant as it gets, and you won't realise that until it's too late. I, and millions of others, said exactly the same thing. "Oh, it's only 90mg of codeine, once a fortnight, I'm fine", which becomes, "It's only 150mg of codeine every week or so, but it's only codeine, I won't become an addict", which leads to the phrase that haunts me every single day, "I've got this under control". The second you utter those words it is over, you have psychologically lied to yourself, as soon as you argue control with yourself: you have lost all of it.

No matter how long you've been at it, how little you take, how infrequently you take them, or the old chestnut; "I don't have the money/frequent access for it to become an addiction". You will find the cash and you will find a way to get your gear, no matter what.

If you're not already an addict, back the fuck away now. You are not special, you are not invincible, you don't have some kind of super human physiology that allows you to avoid addiction - we all thought we did.
 
I was having a good day that day. You're saying that's it's ONLY been a year...

Well, a year has made my dependency a big enough trouble.

&I had bipolar and generalized anxiety before opiates... I am fucked after them.
 
Opiates are a trap. The opiate road leads only to ruin. Of course it is possible to drive part way down the road and turn back and one can do this over and over again, for years sometimes, in rare cases a lifetime. But every time one takes a ride down that road, they are risking ruin.

The fact that it is not certain ruin is part of how the trap works. Of course the people who say that everyone becomes addicted are wrong. If it was truly impossible to use opiates without becoming addicted, then the trap would not appear so enticing. It's the fact that it is possible to go part way down and still turn back, that lures people in. It's what makes the trap so enticing. Everyone thinks they can be that rare person who successfully turns back (especially because at the very beginning of the road, turning around seems so easy that one falls for the delusion that they are somehow different from those people who would trade their last roll of toilet paper for a rinse) and in this way, the trap continues to claim its victims.
 
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