treezy z
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I look forward to you answering this simple question (that I started asking while the rape accusations were active/relevant) in the thread you directed me to.
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TheLoveBandit
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I'd credit that behaviour more to the fact the man is completely irrational on how he reacts to things. LOL.
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True that.
Well, now that the battle is essentially over, I'll be curious to see how Kavanaugh votes in his time as a SCOTUS justice. Maybe we'll luck out and he won't be an emotional baby and he'll apply reason and rationality to law.
But if we're going off his past behavior and extrapolating from the behavior of his biggest champion, then I don't have high hopes.
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I really hope Dems grow some balls and use this to scare the electorate into voting in the midterms. "We have a rapist in the White House, a rapist on the Supreme Court who will rule however Trump wants him to, and Republicans own both houses of Congress. We can't wait on Mueller. There needs to be a check on Trump and SCOTUS if our country is to survive"
treezy z
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I think they are scaring people away. There are zero credible rape accusations against Kavanaugh. People have fathers, sons, brothers, husbands that could have just as easily been subject to this attack, with less ability to defend themselves.
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I think this "THINK ABOUT YOUR SONS!" bullshit is just that, hysteric bullshit. As a white male who has one or two girls in his past who could potentially levy a mild accusation against me, I'm not worried. I got the hint when they shoved me away. I'm also not trying to get elected to positions in the public eye though.
I mean really, Trump and all them are upset because people in power are being targeted, not because white men in general should fear for their careers. The vast majority of us white guys get the hint when a girl pushes us away, so we don't have anything to worry about.
Oh wait, they're scared because they think all the accusations are unfounded. Now I get it.
Do so many of them REALLY identify with Kavanaugh? I'm sorry if even as a white male I don't identify with being a wealthy Yale law graduate who gets to decide what happens to 300 million Americans ever year. I must be missing what's so relate-able about him.
I mean really, Trump and all them are upset because people in power are being targeted, not because white men in general should fear for their careers. The vast majority of us white guys get the hint when a girl pushes us away, so we don't have anything to worry about.
Oh wait, they're scared because they think all the accusations are unfounded. Now I get it.
Do so many of them REALLY identify with Kavanaugh? I'm sorry if even as a white male I don't identify with being a wealthy Yale law graduate who gets to decide what happens to 300 million Americans ever year. I must be missing what's so relate-able about him.
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Brett Kavanaugh lied brazenly and repeatedly under oath. Any law student knows he cannot sit on the Supreme Court. -- It feels self-evident, but a judge who cannot obey the law cannot be expected to apply it.
even if kavanaugh had answered the questions asked of him, his entire testimony is worthless because of the legal principle falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. even if his only lies were because he'll never admit that he's totally gay now because he made eye contact or touched balls with the other dude while running a devil's triangle on some thot, or he's too embarrassed to admit he boofed drugs up his ass, and everything else was 100% true, those petty little "white lies" shatter his credibility and render him unfit to be a justice.
even if kavanaugh had answered the questions asked of him, his entire testimony is worthless because of the legal principle falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. even if his only lies were because he'll never admit that he's totally gay now because he made eye contact or touched balls with the other dude while running a devil's triangle on some thot, or he's too embarrassed to admit he boofed drugs up his ass, and everything else was 100% true, those petty little "white lies" shatter his credibility and render him unfit to be a justice.
Captain.Heroin
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^ this, very well said
why can't the Republicans just pick another candidate who can tell the truth ffs?
Xorkoth
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Yes, exactly. It doesn't really matter why he lied, if he lied, he shouldn't be a supreme court justice. It's not like he's up for manager of McDonald's on 5th street or something. We need the most qualified people in the SCOTUS.
tathra
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^ this, very well said
why can't the Republicans just pick another candidate who can tell the truth ffs?
its HILLARY'S FAULT!!!1 that bitch is conspiring against the president and kavanaugh personally to ruin both their lives and then have kavanaugh killed just like all the rest she killed when they dared to get in the way of her secret pedophile sex ring that she personally runs out of the basement of Comet Pizza, owned and operated by one George Soros. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY! wait, i mean LOCK HER UP!
zephyr
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^ This post confuses me. Are you being serious or are you mocking someone who cant respond for themselves despite being reassured he is welcome here and his perspective is important?
I think you would not be two faced and are being serious.
Anyway, has he got the job or not?
Is it vacant or does the old bloke before him have to keep working?
I think you would not be two faced and are being serious.
Anyway, has he got the job or not?
Is it vacant or does the old bloke before him have to keep working?
SheWasLvL18
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^ I don't think it's mocking one person so much as a group of people. That being said if you think that obvious parody sounds like someone on this board, would you take that person seriously?
I believe the final vote is today, but according to what the senators have said he will be confirmed
I believe the final vote is today, but according to what the senators have said he will be confirmed
Captain.Heroin
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You're not from the states so it's OK if it went over your head. He was being somewhat sarcastic.
My prediction is and has always been that he'll get his seat.
He doesn't deserve it, is a terrible candidate, and by the next vote some senators may change their minds.
tathra
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its only obvious parody because i'm open about my views not being that. trumpenproletariat like jgrimez, droppersneck, etc, say that kind of stuff and mean it 100% honestly.
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It's fun guys, watch:
BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS! But PEDOPHILES!!!
We can all do it together if we want.
I'm sorry, I know sarcasm is pretty much the rudest way to attack someone's beliefs. My wife does it to me all the time and it right pisses me off. But her whole family is annoyingly sarcastic. I've just had to practice sarcasm to keep up.
BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS! But PEDOPHILES!!!
We can all do it together if we want.
I'm sorry, I know sarcasm is pretty much the rudest way to attack someone's beliefs. My wife does it to me all the time and it right pisses me off. But her whole family is annoyingly sarcastic. I've just had to practice sarcasm to keep up.
TheLoveBandit
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I'm not a wealthy Yale law graduate facing a seat on the SC. But I'm a white male, who like you, always took the hint and erred on the safe side when making out with a girl. And the fact that unfounded accusations can be levelled at anyone, and still ruin them if proven unfounded, is scary as hell. Yeah, that's what I have an issue with.
I get that rape happens, and the guys who rape women are high on my list I'd like to go medieval on. But those accusations are true, and can be substantiated. This circus? Nothing of substance to tie Kavanaugh to the allegations.
I get that false accusations happen. I'd like to think more by bad memory (confused on exactly who it was) than by malicious intent, or worse with pure fabrications (note, not calling Ford in that fabrication group). But I think intentional false accusations should be punished nearly as badly.
I also get that the Democrats used this entire scenario primarily for political reasons. Really, whether it is the unfounded accusations, or that he gets upset by being falsely accused, or that he drank in high school, or that...what? He kicked a neighbor's dog when he was seven? It doesn't matter the reason, Dems just wanted him stopped - and it's not on merit of his ability to be a judge. He has a careeer they could go thru and hold up instances of poor judgement and biased rulings by which to point out he is not a good candidate for the SC....or do they? That's what this should be about, his credentials to be a SC judge. And all the faults they are parading, or creating, aren't related to that at all. Why is that?
But I digress. My point, aside from false accusers should be found guilty of something and that Dems should be judging a nominee on his ability to DO the JOB, was that this has given legitimacy to ruin any (white) male with false accusations just because. And what can any (white) male do about it? And what repercussions are there for those that ruined him falsely in this manner? This strikes home for me, because there is not way I can be rightfully accused...but it does not mean someone cannot level the accusations and ruin me regardless.
TheLoveBandit
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Interesting dialogue. It reflects my state of fear, so I'll give him credit on that. I'm not sure how much credit Trump truly earns in this guys view of 'wielding victim hood'. We men aren't victims as yet - yes, the clip is correct, women are the true victims in these situations, and the number of falsely accused men is minuscule compared to the women who have been assaulted. He throws a similar line about it isn't the immigrants (victims of their homeland) that Trump plays as the victim but the American who is positioned as the victim in that arrangement.
But then he pivots to speak of Trump using Ford as a punchline, that women are afraid to come forward because the President will mock you. He closes saying he feels so bad for Ford who's life is now changed, been trodden upon, become a throw away line for Trump. And how Kavanaugh isn't so bad off, at worst he goes back to being a Federal judge. I suppose there is some truth to Kavanaugh's outcome, in that with nothing that could be proven against him from Ford's accusations, this will mostly fall into the history and not carry with him. And truth that Ford now carries forward with her the label of false accuser, perhaps even Dem pawn (I'm very curious to see how much they support her after they've used her).
In a nutshell - thanks for posting it, it does have some things that ring true to me. But I still feel like a lot of it was carefully worded manipulation for appeasement. Not just because it is on a comedy show (yes, that can't be sidestepped), but because it was his personal commentary without any sense of solution or way to make things better. It was constructed, and delivered, to a Comedy Central audience to have gravity and seriousness, but appeal to their sense of what Trump is manipulating. Other than mocking Ford, which I don't forgive him for, it has been my observation that Trump has tried to say out of the Senate's selection process other than providing an FBI investigation when asked.
TheLoveBandit
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TheLoveBandit
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For those that missed it when Susan Collins (D) had the floor during statements from the senate hearing. She walks point by point dismantling the Democrat's arguments, highlighting the absurdity of their tactics and arguments.