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Kavanaugh sworn in

I guess the claim was she was black out drunk, the judge took out his dick, she was a virgin and accidently reached out and pushed him away by the dick, and after 6 days with a lawyer was able to recall the details from her black out.
 
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about (I just saw something about gangbangs and holes) but can we try and stick to this one topic about the Kavanaugh?

CH said:
If you feel that's the right thing to do then I'm ok with it.
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:)
 
treezy z said:
Yes Stormy Daniels lawyer has a new client claiming gang bang.

Personally I think he's a porn addict and should keep his fantasies in his perverted mind.
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I assume you're basing your view of him upon the company he has as clients? Otherwise, you're just as bad as the others in making generalized statements without a factual basis. :\


swilow said:
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about (I just saw something about gangbangs and holes) but can we try and stick to this one topic about the Kavanaugh?
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The gangbang is the latest accusation against Kav (or at least, one of the latest). It's on topic, unfortunately.
 
Question:

When did Trump make his list of nominees? I want to believe it was before the election. And, when did his list of nominees become known? My point here is to understand 'how long has Kavenaugh been known to be a possible nominee, and yet these persons are only remembering and coming forward now?' I get that you can't control when memories come back at you, but with his name recognition for this position and the traumatic impact of these alleged events...I'm wondering how legit the claims are by Republicans that these are 'last minute' accusations. There was word that Ford submitted (6 weeks?) in advance of the allegations becoming public, and the most recent one only after a week of intense (therapy? work with lawyers?). As a baseline, when was Kav known to be on Trump's short list?
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Question:

When did Trump make his list of nominees? I want to believe it was before the election. And, when did his list of nominees become known? My point here is to understand 'how long has Kavenaugh been known to be a possible nominee, and yet these persons are only remembering and coming forward now?' I get that you can't control when memories come back at you, but with his name recognition for this position and the traumatic impact of these alleged events...I'm wondering how legit the claims are by Republicans that these are 'last minute' accusations. There was word that Ford submitted (6 weeks?) in advance of the allegations becoming public, and the most recent one only after a week of intense (therapy? work with lawyers?). As a baseline, when was Kav known to be on Trump's short list?
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Kavenaugh was announced in 2017. There was a lie by someone (I think Ford's lawyer) about them being aware in 2016. I'll have to dig it up.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Question:

When did Trump make his list of nominees? I want to believe it was before the election. And, when did his list of nominees become known? My point here is to understand 'how long has Kavenaugh been known to be a possible nominee, and yet these persons are only remembering and coming forward now?' I get that you can't control when memories come back at you, but with his name recognition for this position and the traumatic impact of these alleged events...I'm wondering how legit the claims are by Republicans that these are 'last minute' accusations. There was word that Ford submitted (6 weeks?) in advance of the allegations becoming public, and the most recent one only after a week of intense (therapy? work with lawyers?). As a baseline, when was Kav known to be on Trump's short list?
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My guess is he didn’t make the list, Bannon did.

Trump is a moron. It’s proof of why public education is stupid. You can send a pig off to Wharton and he still comes home oinking and victimizes 17 women.

And you think K-12 is absolutely necessary after all the idiots voted for him.

Hurrah. Dep’t of Education more like Department of Ignorance.
 
treezy z said:
Kavenaugh was announced in 2017. There was a lie by someone (I think Ford's lawyer) about them being aware in 2016. I'll have to dig it up.
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You guys act like this is THE LAST NATIONAL SOCALIST, and there’s no more whites-only minds in Washington DC. Don’t worry. You have Jeff Sessions.

And if that’s the last two nazi morons you guys have then your ideology is dying.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
You guys act like this is THE LAST NATIONAL SOCALIST, and there’s no more whites-only minds in Washington DC. Don’t worry. You have Jeff Sessions.

And if that’s the last two nazi morons you guys have then your ideology is dying.
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Excuse me, which Nazis are you talking about again?

Aren't you the guy who advocated for the war in Iraq, Syria, Libya, every shitty war in recent history?

NAZI? Why are people so intent on reducing that word to meaninglessness, when it refers to an actual evil historical group?
 
If he’s supposed to be replacing a more Libertarian seat you should have plenty of candidates.

Trump and pals are trying to force alt-righters into place.

No abortions? Authoritarian crap. Kavanaugh is not the right guy for this seat. You know the R’s are trying to pull (another) one over the public.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
If he’s supposed to be replacing a more Libertarian seat you should have plenty of candidates.

Trump and pals are trying to force alt-righters into place.

No abortions? Authoritarian crap. Kavanaugh is not the right guy for this seat. You know the R’s are trying to pull (another) one over the public.
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I prefer a country with no abortions (I am neutral on that topic, don't care) to a country where slander without proof is considered acceptable.

This idea that the Salem Witch Trials should be reenacted so woman can kill their babies (or fetuses, whichever you prefer) is lunacy, as is the idea that the Supreme Court can just up and repeal Roe v Wade without a case being put in front of them.
 
The list was made by the Federalist Society, a conservative think-tank of lawyers who secretly control all of Trump's nominations. Everyone he picks is from the list they made.
 
Exactly CG. Trump is a moron who cannot think for himself.

I'm not surprised to see people in here defending him, because they probably were failed by the K-12 system and learned absolutely nothing during their "schooling".
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-nikki-haley-kavanaugh-trump-20180923-story.html

UN Ambassador Nikki Haley says people shouldn't 'second guess' sexual assault victims, days after President Trump publicly questioned Kavanaugh's accuser

Nikki Haley seems like she's the only one with her head screwed on straight in the whole administration.

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What I don't understand is why the Republicans can't just choose a different candidate who isn't such an EXTREME CONSERVATIVE, so that perhaps we can get some Democratic senators behind the candidate. I mean, there's Democratic senators in states that voted for Trump; it shouldn't be hard to get a Libertarian or more centrist Republican in place.
 
TLB: You are correct. I never stated "Kav" was specifically mentioned in the article in which two letters signed by over 1,000 students who attended "Kav"'s school, as well as its brother and sister schools around the same time felt compelled to highlight the rapey culture therein described.
I'm always careful with my allegations, just in case Trump sends the DOJ after all of us (except a couple of like-minded fellows!!). Oh wait, he hates druggies...we're all going down. %)

I'm not wading back through this dumpster fire to quote for my reply, so I'll just clear up the FBI/"Kav" question.

First of all, the FBI aren't like the military police, who almost exclusively deal with people in the military on military bases. (Just as an aside, the non-military police generally cede jurisdiction to the military police if an offense/crime was committed off the base by an active service member, depending on how civilians are involved, but that is almost always a courtesy).

Let's say someone allegedly throws a tipsy US Supreme Court nominee on the ground and gropes him. The FBI can investigate. It doesn't have to involve a federal judge, who is a federal employee btw, getting groped in the Rose Garden. A reality TV star could be a SCOTUS nominee and be allegedly groped at a billionaire's tacky gold apartment, and still the FBI could investigate.

Happy that's cleared up.

Next: Here is a nice cut and pasted article and two other linked stories that explain why...

Can the FBI investigate the allegation against Brett Kavanaugh? Analysis: President Donald Trump said investigating Christine Blasey Ford's accusation of sexual assault against Brett Kavanaugh "is not really their thing."

President Donald Trump has said the FBI doesn't want to investigate Christine Blasey Ford's assertion that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh assaulted her, and that it's "not what they do."In fact, the FBI could certainly investigate Ford's claim, but only if the White House asks the bureau to do so. She has no authority to request it. Neither does the Senate.

When the FBI conducts a background investigation of a presidential nominee, it vacuums up all kinds of information about the nominee, including claims from people interviewed by agents, and dumps it into the file. It does not, however, investigate whether or not derogatory information is true — unless it's asked to follow up by the White House. Several current and former Justice Department and FBI officials say this has always been the practice, and there is actually a longstanding formal memorandum of understanding between DOJ and the White House that specifies these limits.

The Senate cannot ask the FBI to investigate Ford's allegations that Kavanaugh assaulted her at a high school party more than 30 years ago, because Kavanaugh is the president's nominee, not the Senate's.

Here's another way to think about it. In doing background investigations, the FBI is acting as an agent of the White House. That's a separate role from its responsibility to investigate crimes. The Senate can always ask the FBI to investigate a potential crime that it becomes aware of, but it can't direct the FBI to investigate the background of a presidential nominee.

And in this case, even assuming Ford's allegation to be true, there's no suggestion of a federal crime, quite apart from the statute of limitations issue. So the FBI has no independent authority to open a criminal investigation. Its only role here would be to re-open the Kavanaugh background investigation.

Additionally, some in the FBI, says a source familiar with their thinking, are annoyed by President Trump's statements that the FBI doesn't do this or this "is not really their thing" when there are FBI agents who do nothing but interview sex crime victims.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ossible/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.366994b7ea9c

Almost an FAQ on "Kav" and various groups involved in SCOTUS confirmation and evaluating his rapiness:

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/20/6498...t-the-fbi-to-reopen-a-kavanaugh-investigation

So yes, Trump would actually have to care about the truth. Ha. Ha.
 
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