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While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.

?I thought he might inadvertently kill me,? said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California. ?He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.?

Ford said she was able to escape when Kavanaugh?s friend and classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, Mark Judge, jumped on top of them, sending all three tumbling. She said she ran from the room, briefly locked herself in a bathroom and then fled the house.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...vanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-washington-post

This seems even a bit more aggressive or abusive than any of the 17 Trump assault victims.
 
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It's a different story when sexual assault and other crimes are heard by a court in a court setting but this is the court of public opinion, there us no telling what happened and it's not really anyone else's job to decide based on the public accusation made what happened.


It's very difficult to report these incidents to the cops and get justice at the time, but it's a shitty thing to do to thwart someone's life years later especially when there is the possibility now of affecting a country un necessarily.


Dont mean to sound harsh but I question the motives, she should technically have looked into avenues of criminal charges or suing him in civil court so if the statute has passed, this way of going can both ruin a life that's innocent (until proven guilty), could save a country from an assaulted getting into power or backfire on her big time .


Wouldn't buy into it but things like this get eaten up quick and the accusation becomes fact real quick .


Shes probably telling the truth tbh but better if it was proven legally first.
 
I think it should be a criminal (or at least civil, with massive damages) matter to say someone raped you if you don't report the incident to police. This makes is impossible for the individual to defend themselves, as the matter is never investigated properly.

It's a sickening political tactic, and this type of behavior (baseless accusations to demonize people) are reminiscent of the Chinese Cultural Revolution and other forms of mass-snitching/informing in totalitarian regimes.

To be perfectly clear, whether or not Kavanaugh is guilty, there is not a shred of evidence he did anything, there is no REAL way for him to prove he didn't since it was 35 years ago, there's zero documented evidence it happened, and it's her word against is. This attack comes right before the vote, is clearly politically motivated, and is a complete abomination. Everyone approved of this tactic should be ashamed, and try to stop being in a rage for a second and look at where this type of thing will lead the country (it's not towards more freedom, I will leave it at that.)
 
You're insane. Victims have a lot of reasons for not reporting to the police, including shame and fear that they won't be believed.

The woman is a professor from what I read and obviously has a lot of clot to lose if she lied about any of this; I have every reason to believe her. Why would you make that up? What do you stand to gain? He's just a supreme court nomination. It seems like a legitimate accusation to me.

The other males present could admit their being there and witnessing the acts.

It's not a tactic. People should be allowed to be honest about what happened to them if they are really a victim of sexual violence.
 
The woman is a professor from what I read and obviously has a lot of clot to lose if she lied about any of this; I have every reason to believe her. Why would you make that up? What do you stand to gain? He's just a supreme court nomination. It seems like a legitimate accusation to me.

The other males present could admit their being there and witnessing the acts.

It's not a tactic. People should be allowed to be honest about what happened to them if they are really a victim of sexual violence.

I feel like a moron for even having to say this, because it's obvious.

What she stands to gain, as a hardcore liberal (she tried to hide her online past before dropping the accusation but some of it is out there) is preventing Brett Kavanaugh from being appointed to the supreme court, and gain massive amounts of fawning praise on damn near every mainstream TV channel and magazine in America.
 
I don't think going on television or anything and saying you were raped makes anyone feel good.

I don't trust Kavanaugh. It'll be interesting if anything comes of this.
 
I feel like a moron for even having to say this, because it's obvious.

What she stands to gain, as a hardcore liberal (she tried to hide her online past before dropping the accusation but some of it is out there) is preventing Brett Kavanaugh from being appointed to the supreme court, and gain massive amounts of fawning praise on damn near every mainstream TV channel and magazine in America.

naturally it didnt take long for the misogynistic, "she's not a real victim, she's only doing it for personal gain" bullshit to start.
 
naturally it didnt take long for the misogynistic, "she's not a real victim, she's only doing it for personal gain" bullshit to start.

Hey if this claim was remotely credible I wouldn't call it for the utter bullshit it is. If not believing bullshit makes me a misogynist, damn right i'm a misogynist. What proof is there this happened? Mark Judge, a man the lady claims was present, said nothing of the sort happened, ever.

It's strange in our society that most accusations require proof, but anything sexual can be dug out of the woodwork decades later, the only evidence some words, and we MUST BELIEVE WOMEN.

I'll let you have your echo chamber about this, I know it's gonna be page after page of THIS MAN IS EVIL, but hopefully my posts in this thread reach someone who still thinks rationally.
 
you're the one saying she's not credible, I'm just cutting through all the bullshit to the same fucking character assassinations that always spring up immediately every single time this happens.
 
Ok I don't want to get in a flame war. For the record "none of them are ever credible. it's always just some stupid bitch after her 15 minutes of fame." is not a quote of mine, it is Tathra putting words in my mouth to attack me.
 
The whole accusation especially in public by an anon is character assassination.


Who knows if she is credible or he is, that's why taking him to court, if possible, would have been the way to go.

A person as a mature adult in their 40 or 50s is not the same person they were at a drunken teenage party, she has not explained the whole night, it's her side only, wouldn't buy into it but hey it's the way yo go to bring down someone who won't have a chance to be seen as totally innocent or totally guilty by law
 
Here's a more eloquent write up of basically my opinion by a guy named cageysee at http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/406938-allegations-throw-kavanaugh-confirmation-into-turmoil comments

"Here's all one really needs to know about Kavanaugh accuser, Christine Ford-Blasey...

The timing is transparent: the week prior to Brett Kavanaugh committee vote; the outlet is transparent: the intelligence ‘resistance’ apparatus, The Washington Post; the accuser is transparent: a far-left California liberal professor, Christine Ford Blasey, anti-Trump ‘resistance activist’ with an anti-policy background, including recently. The accusation is transparent: 35-year-old harassment claim/accusation, from high school intended to activate the “Me Too” activists. The motive is transparent: block the Supreme Court nomination of Justice Kavanaugh.

Pretty much sums up the weaponization of an impotent movement (i.e., the Democratic Party) driven into fighting a guerrilla ideology war because their ideas can't prevail on the battlefield of ideas. If they did, if their ideology wasn't entirely bankrupt, this wouldn't be happening. They would be advancing their ideology, and proudly so. But they are vacant intellectually and morally, so they are reduced to lobbing 'grievance bombs' at decent people they hate. 'Virtue Signaling' at its finest."
 
I feel like a moron for even having to say this, because it's obvious.

What she stands to gain, as a hardcore liberal (she tried to hide her online past before dropping the accusation but some of it is out there) is preventing Brett Kavanaugh from being appointed to the supreme court, and gain massive amounts of fawning praise on damn near every mainstream TV channel and magazine in America.

He's a supreme court nom., there's no guarantee he would go out his way to roll back Roe v. Wade, etc. She stands to gain next to nothing by preventing a creep from getting into the supreme court.

naturally it didnt take long for the misogynistic, "she's not a real victim, she's only doing it for personal gain" bullshit to start.

qft

it's sick that we don't believe women when they are victims of crime. That's got to stop.

I'm not saying it HAD to have happened, there's always a chance she is lying but if you ask me SLIM TO NONE, and I do sincerely believe her.

no one ever wants to admit to being the victim of sexual abuse. The experience is degrading, humiliating, and depressing enough to go through without outing yourself to the entire world that this happened to you. I don't blame victims for trying to suppress what happened to them. It's a natural instinct so you can try to keep the same life you had/could have before/after the abuse. People don't want to make being a victim part of their identity. No one is proud they were sexually abused.
 
It's more about the left recently (sometime this decade) deciding that in cases of sexual misconduct, there is no due process, it is automatic, permanent guilt as soon as the words leave someones mouth, and the person they are accusing must be utterly destroyed.

And when I say "utterly destroyed" I mean having your name ran through all kinds of buzzfeeds and gawkers, as the "Vile Rapist" and being made unemployable the rest of your life with no chance to defend yourself or even face your accuser in many cases.

Read a little about Star Chambers in 15-17th century Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

The founding father's started a revolution over shit like this.
 
it's sick that we don't believe women when they are victims of crime. That's got to stop.


Making a public accusation like this example does not make what is being said the automatic truth, like the title you put up states. What happened happened, nothing changes that and due process is due process.

There are many many women and men who have been assaulted, should every single public accusation be just takes as the truth? If so, what does anyone do, form a lynch mob?

Stuff like this, can be taken as libel, again no one can do anything except go to court.
 
Why did the Kavanaugh accuser:
1. Wait 35 years to go public
2. Go public on the eve of confirmation
3. Not file a police report at the time
4. Scrub her social media & cover-up leftwing activism

Christine Blasey Ford
-can't recall details of alleged incident
-has family negatively affected by Kavanaugh's mom (she was presiding judge in a foreclosure case that resulted in Ford's parents losing their home - Maryland Case#156006V)
-donates to the DNC Democrat poilticians and causes
-is an anti-Trump activist
-scrubbed online presence
 
Rule of thumb:

Any Republican nominee or candidate in a high profile race or confirmation will be accused of sexual assault without physical evidence decades earlier within weeks of the election/confirmation.

After the election/confirmation accuser will just disappear.
 
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