DarthMom
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hey anyone see the clip where someone told cheney to go fuck himself??!!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/08.html
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/08.html
Katrina = Cat.5 = Goodbye New Orleans
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Kinda interesting...
10:57 Raw transcript of comments by NOLA evacuee Clara Barthelemy: "The 17th street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable real estate in the city… to keep the French Quarter protected, the ninth ward was sacrificed… people are afraid to speak out… everyone who was near there heard the bombings… they bombed seven times. That's why they didn't fix the levees… 20 feet of water. Gators. People dying in water. They let the parishes go, not the city center. Tourist trap was saved over human life. A six year old girl was raped in here.. 9 year old boy killed. A man in the shower beaten. No hot food. No help for elderly."
10:57 Raw transcript of comments by NOLA evacuee Clara Barthelemy: "The 17th street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable real estate in the city… to keep the French Quarter protected, the ninth ward was sacrificed… people are afraid to speak out… everyone who was near there heard the bombings… they bombed seven times. That's why they didn't fix the levees… 20 feet of water. Gators. People dying in water. They let the parishes go, not the city center. Tourist trap was saved over human life. A six year old girl was raped in here.. 9 year old boy killed. A man in the shower beaten. No hot food. No help for elderly."
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OpaqueSpark
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Yeah, I'm willing to believe a lot of first-hand survivor accounts, but I'm very skeptical that anyone would intentionally create this kind of chaos.
blahblahblah
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I agree its a bit far fetched its interesting to entertain the thought for a moment. I would have said the same thing about people shooting at rescue helicopters, if it wasn't [over?] reported by the agenda based news agencies.
Personally at this point I wouldn't doubt anything, everything sounds so far fetched.
Personally at this point I wouldn't doubt anything, everything sounds so far fetched.
OpaqueSpark
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Hell, maybe some folks were just trying to SIGNAL the helicopters. With a gun. Because they didn't have flares or a door or a bedsheet to wave around.
I mean, none of the helicopters were HIT by gunfire, right?
If you're lost in the woods, they tell you to shoot into the air a couple times so rescuers know where you are.
I mean, none of the helicopters were HIT by gunfire, right?
If you're lost in the woods, they tell you to shoot into the air a couple times so rescuers know where you are.
SA
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I agree. There were numerous reports on TV during the first days of the rescues that people were shooting just to get the pilots' attention. Can't find any CNN-esque sources, but here's something along the lines...
When they mentioned similar witness reports on the news, there were no racial overtones to the stories, however, unlike the one above.
When they mentioned similar witness reports on the news, there were no racial overtones to the stories, however, unlike the one above.
SA
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ah, here we go, something more acceptable (to some) as a "credible" news/quote source. Google the following quote to get to the source. Registration is required.
SA
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Canadians beat U.S. Army to New Orleans suburb
BATON ROUGE, La., Sept 7 (Reuters) - A Canadian search-and-rescue team reached a flooded New Orleans suburb to help save trapped residents five days before the U.S. military, a Louisiana state senator said on Wednesday.
The Canadians beat both the Army and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the U.S. disaster response department, to St. Bernard Parish east of New Orleans, where flood waters are still 8 feet (2.4 metres) deep in places, Sen. Walter Boasso said.
"Fabulous, fabulous guys," Boasso said. "They started rolling with us and got in boats to save people."
"We've got Canadian flags flying everywhere."
full story (Reuters)
BATON ROUGE, La., Sept 7 (Reuters) - A Canadian search-and-rescue team reached a flooded New Orleans suburb to help save trapped residents five days before the U.S. military, a Louisiana state senator said on Wednesday.
The Canadians beat both the Army and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the U.S. disaster response department, to St. Bernard Parish east of New Orleans, where flood waters are still 8 feet (2.4 metres) deep in places, Sen. Walter Boasso said.
"Fabulous, fabulous guys," Boasso said. "They started rolling with us and got in boats to save people."
"We've got Canadian flags flying everywhere."
full story (Reuters)
It could very well be that U.S. resources were diverted to other areas because they knew that the Canadians were already heading for and taking care of St.Bernard Parish. Nevertheless... Go Canada! Yay!
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michael
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=1104887
At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."
She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Michael Brown.
"He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.
"'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"
She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Michael Brown.
"He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.
"'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"
SA
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Making Money 101 for former FEMA director, now a lobbyist for Halliburton, Joseph Allbaugh
1. Get contract to repair Gulf Coast awarded to Halliburton
2. Get Bush to sign executive order allowing FEDERAL contractors to pay below prevailing wage in affected areas.
3. Sit back and watch the dineros flow in from yet another destroyed to hell area.
1. Get contract to repair Gulf Coast awarded to Halliburton
2. Get Bush to sign executive order allowing FEDERAL contractors to pay below prevailing wage in affected areas.
3. Sit back and watch the dineros flow in from yet another destroyed to hell area.
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http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050909/2005-09-09T023413Z_01_SPI877714_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-DEATHS-DC.html
BATON ROUGE, La., Sept 8 - Estimates of the death toll from Hurricane Katrina have run as high as 10,000 but the actual body count so far is much lower and officials who feared the worst now hope the dire predictions were wrong.
The recovery of Katrina's victims speeded up in the last two days. As of Thursday, Mississippi had recorded 201 deaths and Louisiana 118, while other affected states had much lower numbers.
Searchers are now going door-to-door in New Orleans neighborhoods where the water has fallen enough for a look inside flooded homes. In Mississippi teams have been recovering bodies since hours after the storm struck on Monday last week.
The results in both places have encouraged some officials to hope the body count may not reach the predicted heights.
"I am thinking we are better off than we thought we'd be," said Louisiana state Sen. Walter Boasso, who represents St. Bernard Parish near New Orleans, parts of which still sit under 8 feet of water.
The authorities are ready in case the total sharply rises.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency, taking the lead in the recovery, has brought 25,000 body bags to the Gulf region. A morgue in St. Gabriel, Louisiana, is capable of processing 140 corpses a day and officials have formed a plan to handle in excess of 5,000 bodies.
Usually when a hurricane strikes, local officials announce death tolls within days as searchers retrieve bodies from crushed buildings and crumpled cars.
New Orleans is different. The flood waters unleashed by Katrina's assault on its levees sit stagnant in low-lying areas, preventing rescue crews from searching thousands of houses that are up to their eaves in polluted water.
In the first week after the disaster, officials and politicians discussed the possible death toll reluctantly, often only after being pressed by journalists.
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin offered up a figure as high as 10,000 under such questioning. Louisiana U.S. Sen. David Vitter said his "guesses" started at 10,000, but made it clear he had no factual basis for saying that.
SLOW WASHINGTON RESPONSE
Advancing the notion of a catastrophic death toll may have helped get the attention of Washington, which has being widely criticized for a slow response.
First reports from the city, where bodies were seen floating in the water, seemed to support a horrifying toll.
Clusters of corpses have been found in some areas. In St. Bernard Parish, east of New Orleans, at least 32 deaths were confirmed at a nursing home. But such finds have been few.
Hundreds of thousands fled the Gulf coast before the storm, spurred by "mandatory" evacuation orders, which in the United States are not enforced by police.
Rescuers plucked thousands more from streets, levees, roads and rooftops. At least 32,000 were rescued and another 70,000 were evacuated from New Orleans after the storm, according to official figures.
But some feared thousands were trapped in attics and would succumb to the water or the heat. But rescuers later found many damaged roofs where residents chopped through with axes, encouraging those hoping the toll will be lower than expected.
In Mississippi Gulf towns, there is little stench of death compared to devastated regions of Indonesia after the tsunami.
In the rural areas east of St. Bernard Parish, some bodies will never be found because alligators will have taken them away, locals said.
BATON ROUGE, La., Sept 8 - Estimates of the death toll from Hurricane Katrina have run as high as 10,000 but the actual body count so far is much lower and officials who feared the worst now hope the dire predictions were wrong.
The recovery of Katrina's victims speeded up in the last two days. As of Thursday, Mississippi had recorded 201 deaths and Louisiana 118, while other affected states had much lower numbers.
Searchers are now going door-to-door in New Orleans neighborhoods where the water has fallen enough for a look inside flooded homes. In Mississippi teams have been recovering bodies since hours after the storm struck on Monday last week.
The results in both places have encouraged some officials to hope the body count may not reach the predicted heights.
"I am thinking we are better off than we thought we'd be," said Louisiana state Sen. Walter Boasso, who represents St. Bernard Parish near New Orleans, parts of which still sit under 8 feet of water.
The authorities are ready in case the total sharply rises.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency, taking the lead in the recovery, has brought 25,000 body bags to the Gulf region. A morgue in St. Gabriel, Louisiana, is capable of processing 140 corpses a day and officials have formed a plan to handle in excess of 5,000 bodies.
Usually when a hurricane strikes, local officials announce death tolls within days as searchers retrieve bodies from crushed buildings and crumpled cars.
New Orleans is different. The flood waters unleashed by Katrina's assault on its levees sit stagnant in low-lying areas, preventing rescue crews from searching thousands of houses that are up to their eaves in polluted water.
In the first week after the disaster, officials and politicians discussed the possible death toll reluctantly, often only after being pressed by journalists.
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin offered up a figure as high as 10,000 under such questioning. Louisiana U.S. Sen. David Vitter said his "guesses" started at 10,000, but made it clear he had no factual basis for saying that.
SLOW WASHINGTON RESPONSE
Advancing the notion of a catastrophic death toll may have helped get the attention of Washington, which has being widely criticized for a slow response.
First reports from the city, where bodies were seen floating in the water, seemed to support a horrifying toll.
Clusters of corpses have been found in some areas. In St. Bernard Parish, east of New Orleans, at least 32 deaths were confirmed at a nursing home. But such finds have been few.
Hundreds of thousands fled the Gulf coast before the storm, spurred by "mandatory" evacuation orders, which in the United States are not enforced by police.
Rescuers plucked thousands more from streets, levees, roads and rooftops. At least 32,000 were rescued and another 70,000 were evacuated from New Orleans after the storm, according to official figures.
But some feared thousands were trapped in attics and would succumb to the water or the heat. But rescuers later found many damaged roofs where residents chopped through with axes, encouraging those hoping the toll will be lower than expected.
In Mississippi Gulf towns, there is little stench of death compared to devastated regions of Indonesia after the tsunami.
In the rural areas east of St. Bernard Parish, some bodies will never be found because alligators will have taken them away, locals said.
ChemicalSmiles
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Bush and FEMA fucked up is the bottom line. If a republican president is in office next term I will be shocked and definetely lose faith in america.
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