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Katrina = Cat.5 = Goodbye New Orleans

" but the people robbing clothing stores and jewelry stores need to be shot in the head. The world will be better off without them."

i think that it would be best to not judge people stuck in a circumstance you would never hope to have.

they are without access to civilization - water is contaminated, their lives and homes have been destroyed. most of them probably couldn't have left if they had wanted to. sadly, most of them are probably the poor inner city people you see in your day to day life and pass over as unimportant. those type of people have no cars and maybe no tv or internet or cell phones. they are going through hell on earth and you are saying they should be shot in the head for looting some jewerly and other misc. junk that insurance will cover some day anyhow. if they even manage to survive the next few weeks of insanity thats going on there.

.... i dont know what else to say.
 
Sorry, but trying on new jeans and nikes, and stealing electronics that won't work..

I can't really see myself ever doing that. If they were stealing food and other necessary for the time items, yeah.. Ok.

But not a fucking receiver or a plasma tv.
 
eh, their world just got crushed around them. they probably arn't thinking totally clearly. who gives a shit, its STUFF. these are HUMAN BEINGS. Let god judge them in the end. what they do in a disaster to stuff that will be comp'd by insurance companies is unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

moral judgements made from security on people in insanity are not valid imho.


if i were trapped in a fucking warzone i would loot all the food/medicine/clothing i could. then i would loot all the valuables i could to trade for more food/water/clothing when mine ran out. considering they may be traped there a very long while, i would do nothing but try to ensure my survival, by any means neccesary.
 
What a mess... looks like a full-on disaster.

As for looting I really dont think its a big deal, its almost a natural response for survival. As for new clothes and jewlery I hope they can trade some rings or braclets for a hot meal or a ride out of there. I'd be more worried about the totality of the event rather than some people grasping at straws in total confusion.
 
RepeatOffender said:
eh, their world just got crushed around them. they probably arn't thinking totally clearly. who gives a shit, its STUFF. these are HUMAN BEINGS. Let god judge them in the end. what they do in a disaster to stuff that will be comp'd by insurance companies is unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

moral judgements made from security on people in insanity are not valid imho.


if i were trapped in a fucking warzone i would loot all the food/medicine/clothing i could. then i would loot all the valuables i could to trade for more food/water/clothing when mine ran out. considering they may be traped there a very long while, i would do nothing but try to ensure my survival, by any means neccesary.
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I wasn't making a judgment. I said I wouldn't do it.

It is just stuff, and they are human beings, and I would think they'd be more concerned for the welfare of other human beings and their own survival as well. I just don't understand the desire for getting electronics when they may not have power for a long time. I'm speaking as how I would hope I would react, not judging.. so let's not overreact, k?
 
gosh did you hear about the guy who killed himself by jumping in the dome? apparently, he got up quietly from playing dominoes, told the people down below him to move, and just jumped?!

This really is just shocking, watching all the water just envelope an entire city is just awful. It is so sad thinking of these people crawling higher and higher int heir houses, trying to get away from the water. Just to drown in their attics :( I will never stay for another hurricane.
 
RepeatOffender said:
" but the people robbing clothing stores and jewelry stores need to be shot in the head. The world will be better off without them."

i think that it would be best to not judge people stuck in a circumstance you would never hope to have.

they are without access to civilization - water is contaminated, their lives and homes have been destroyed. most of them probably couldn't have left if they had wanted to. sadly, most of them are probably the poor inner city people you see in your day to day life and pass over as unimportant. those type of people have no cars and maybe no tv or internet or cell phones. they are going through hell on earth and you are saying they should be shot in the head for looting some jewerly and other misc. junk that insurance will cover some day anyhow. if they even manage to survive the next few weeks of insanity thats going on there.

.... i dont know what else to say.
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I'm all for them stealing things they need to survive (water, food) because its just that, survival.

But fucking jeans? give me a break. If I was waste high in water, there is only one choice to make: attempt an escape or stick around and try to live through it.

Just goes to show the true character and nature of these people. Faced with a life and death situation and they choose to steal meaningless material possessions. I hope they drown in the process.
 
I know! I don't understand why some of these people stayed! Even if you have "nowhere" to go, "nowhere" far away from the hurricane is better than staying..

I don't get it. :(
 
I can see adults staying, (especially with all the worry of looting, knowing your house can be a target) but anyone with small children to think about should realize the little ones can't exactly swim like mom and dad can
 
Yeah I should have specified. I meant families, because I saw a report on a family that had two infants, and they STAYED. :X
 
ok, plasma tv i can give you.
but clothing is an item necesary to survival. especialy in a flood zone. you cant spend all day surounded by water and expect to survive without dry clothing and blankets. especialy socks and shoes. any soldier would tell you this. maybe some of them are just doing it out of greed but for every 1 theif stealing out of greed there is another stealing clothes for his family traped in some building..

food, water, medicine, clothing, shoes, etc.. are all elements to survival and i could care less if they loot it. anything small and valuable and easily tradable for other comodities - jewerly, etc.. would also make sense to steal in these kind of conditions.

anyhow, i would just rather not see people post things like "shoot them on sight" when you really cant expect to even understand what they are experiencing, let alone thinking.

and as for, "just leave" - people without transportation couldn't. people in these kind of cities depend on public transportation every single day. their entire families may live in the inner city and depend on the city. when the city tells them to leave, they quite literally CANT. its just how it is for some.. the government needs to help them now ..
 
BTW, I'm not a heartless prick.

This is an immense tragedy, and I truely feel sorry for those poor souls caught up in this.

But some people have a really distorted sense of what is important. from the article:

"One man, who had about 10 pairs of jeans draped over his left arm, was asked if he was salvaging things from his store.

"No," the man shouted, "that's EVERYBODY'S store."

and

"To be honest with you, people who are oppressed all their lives, man, it's an opportunity to get back at society," he said.


... yeah, sure sounds like they're trying to plan for their future survival.
 
another thing to consider.. the place is going to be underwater for weeks if not longer.. the stuff is all gonna rot anyways.
 
Yeah before the storm they showed a poor family waiting it out on their shrimp boat. SHRIMP BOAT! and to top it all off, they had a 3 year old girl with them. They should have been arrested for child endangerment.
 
BlueAdonis said:
How soon before other countries send aid to help the US with our natural disasters? Will anyone help?

I'm just thinking of the truck load of money and help we send to that tsunami area.
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thank you. i was about to post the same thing. but you know what the response is going to be, right? in fact, i can't believe he hasn't posted yet, but i'm sure *someone* will post about how the funds our govt and private citizens sent for tsunami aid got mismanaged and funded corporations instead of actually aiding the people who needed it most, so why should we expect any help?
 
faris said:
thank you. i was about to post the same thing. but you know what the response is going to be, right? in fact, i can't believe he hasn't posted yet, but i'm sure *someone* will post about how the funds our govt and private citizens sent for tsunami aid got mismanaged and funded corporations instead of actually aiding the people who needed it most, so why should we expect any help?
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Sorry, but the rightwingers have already beat any lefty to the political punchbowl and helped themselves by taking shots at The Nation editor Katrina vanden Heuvel.

"But wouldn't you know, the biggest dittohead on the block, Rush Limbaugh, is calling the storm Hurricane Katrina vanden Heuvel and warning that the left is going to use this tragedy against the right. Jonah Goldberg, who has never seen a bad joke bandwagon he could resist jumping on with both feet, blogged, and I quote, "It would be pretty cool if Fox played to caricature and repeatedly referred to the hurricane as Katrina vanden Heuvel." Not satisfied, he went on to imagine the headlines, "The destruction from Katrina vanden Heuvel is expected to be massive..The poor and disabled are particularly likely to suffer from the effects of Katrina vanden Heuvel."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20...LMd6sgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Yeah, lampooning the deaths of 80 or more Americans in this natural disaster would be pretty cool alright. 8)
 
if anyone should be shot in the head it's the people who turn a natural disaster like this into something political 8)
 
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