Opioids Just starting to Realise the addiction potential of OXY....scary....

[EEhouseEE]

So yeahh i just really felt like making a post about this fucking drug and how sneaky the addiction can be. At first i was always doing the regular 4-5 percs to get a nice high going and i was doing that about 4 times a month max for like a few months. Recently that number is all the way to damn 8-12 percs, a few days ago i did 16 percocets within 1 hour.

Even when i know how much damage iam doing to my liver it just shows how much more power addiction can have over your mind and i still go ahead and do 10 percoccets at a time.

Hoenstly just warning anyone out there, there really is no problem in doing opiates as long as you REALLY CAN keep it to a few times a month id say weekends only ( but of course we all know how little people have achived doing that .....).

One other thing ive been doing like 6 percocets minimum no CWE and luckily i dont feel any effects on my liver but iam sure there is amage being done, i dont kno why i just felt like I had tyop share this and tell confirm, a drug i thought i could once control is now pretty much out of control and i have to use my full mind pwoer to stop this fucking bad habit lol.

Going to try to keep it to once a weekend maximum. Opiates really are one of the most addicting drugs out there and you feel fucking depressed n shit when your nto on them, if anyone knwos any tips to simply stop doing them give me some cause i know the path iam going down is going to lead to hell lol.

Currently popped 12 percs today and iam trying not to touch them till at least monday minimum which is a 3 day break, improovement from every day....

Sorry this is long iam just high as shit and its fun to talk random haha..

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Hey bud,

I wen't through a similar pattern as you did, doing ungodly amounts of APAP along with my oxy intake for years on end. The liver is an amazing organ though, and will heal itself given enough time unless it's damaged beyond repair.

It sounds like your honey moon phase is over, and now you're in a similar position that I was a year back: You continue to want to use but are trying to restrict your use to the "weekends" or "once a week". I here to tell you that _very few_ people manage to do this, in fact, I think it's worse than daily use to some extent because you end up just begin depressed every day of the week you're not using. You look forward to that one day you allow yourself to use, only to have it end all to quickly. Eventually you start justifying use "twice a week" then "three times a week" and eventually you're right back where you started.

As hard as it is...I advise going cold turkey as soon as possible. This is not for everyone, however...it was the only thing that worked for me. I won't lie..I jumped around to a lot of other drugs in my "quitting phase". Benzos for sleep which eventually became another problem I had to over come. What finally got me off opiates was a hefty dose of an NMDA antagonist (after weeks of abstaining from opiates I should add). This killed the cravings, sorted out the depression, and allowed me to return to a somewhat normal level of functioning without opiates.

Again, its not for everyone and I'm certainly not suggestion you go out and try NMDA antagonists as they can also be pretty addicting (they are very "escapist"). I personally didn't want to go on maintenance treatment due to the lack of health insurance and stigma attached to it. Although, I would have eventually gone that route if I wouldn't have been able to sort my own addiction out and may still have to go down that road at a later time.

I should also add that while I no longer crave opiates I can quickly slip back into my old ways if I do use them. I've used them three times (no binges, just one night affairs) since "quitting" and the addict in me is still there going strong. When those pills run out I want to go out and get more, thankfully I haven't had a large supply to go on a run with else I'd probably go back to using. Combined with the thought of "I just have to dose my miracle cure after use and its not a problem" makes the idea of nodding out seem like a good idea. I have to still constantly remind myself that inside I'm still a junkie, and that if I do use it'll probably end badly.

Best of luck on your road to recovery, if you are going to continue using I suggest either switching to a formulation that doesn't have tylenol in it (like roxicodone), or doing a CWE on your pills before use (I know I know, you're probably afraid of losing some of the oxy, I was the same way).

 

[RobotRipping]

just stop taking acetaminophen, fuck even in the doses you took you could have damaged your liver. and no matter how amazing the liver is, you shouldn't risk fucking it up. Do a CWE every single time you are dealing with opiate + acetaminophen, no exceptions, just do it. Best to just stay away from opiates if you can but if not then at least CWE your shit, do large batches to get the best yield and stay safe. Opiate addiction/dependency is one thing, you don't need your liver giving out on you too.

 

[SumthinSumthin]

By far the worst addiction I've ever had was to prescription pain medications, worse than heroin, worse than amphetamine. But hey we're all different and have our different tastes and thats what makes us, well....us. Agreed though, Oxy's will get ya.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Are you psychically dependent on oxy yet? It sounds like you might not be.. and if that's the case then you should seriously do yourself the biggest favor in the world and just stop, because once you start getting sick without them... it really makes it 10x harder to come off.

If you are presently dependent on them you do have options. You could try a taper...(I say try because it's very hard to taper with ones own DOC), you could try suboxone, etc.

I'm all too familiar with the additive qualities of opiates and the scary progression. Just remember, as I'm sure you know, it only gets worse, not better... and "controlling" your use is something most people can never do.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

just stop taking acetaminophen, fuck even in the doses you took you could have damaged your liver. and no matter how amazing the liver is, you shouldn't risk fucking it up.

Agreed, I didn't mean to imply one could use like the OP and I did without damaging the liver. Just wanted to point out that it is possible to lay off and have it mostly repair itself if you stop early enough.

 

[Ksa]

Even when i know how much damage iam doing to my liver it just shows how lazy I am for not spending 10 minutes to extract them.

Fixed.

 

[macd610]

I'm gonna chime in here even though it's a bit repetitive. I am now averaging about 300mg/day of oxycodone IR. I remember the days when I could take hydrocodone w APAP 5/500 4xday and be totally fine.
What I take now has no acetomeniphin (sp?) in it.
I guess I just want to say that yes, your liver is a concern. But honestly, the addiction itself is an even more immediate and realistic concern.
I sort of noticed that when I got to the point where I was wondering whether or not I could handle it responsibly... that was when I should have stopped.
Unfortunately, I am a chronic pain patient and I believe I have pretty much screwed myself out of any real relief.
Just stop while you are still ahead. I know you may feel like you are really in deep... and I'm not belittling what is going on with you. I have read so many threads that downplay hydrocodone and low-dose oxycodone addiction, but dear God I can tell you withdrawing from both of the above was horrible for me. And I just want to say that it only gets worse.
I cannot speak for anybody else, but for me anyway this is the case. Obviously it is much easier said than done; otherwise we would not have forums like this and threads like these. Thank goodness we do though. This is how we can share our experiences and support one another.
Best of luck to you, O.P.
Cat

 

[blight12]

I dont want to be a dick, but im basically taking a shot at the subject wording of this topic and not the op or others at all.., but im assuming most users here on the forum try and get informed and enter now situations safely, not always possible for sure, but just a thing I found works well, in general, not aimed at anybody or the OP.

But if i hear about somebody doing something obvious that everybody should know about at least in terms of the risk like opiates and then stating that they are surprised with the downsides, addiction or withdrawals, then i hope its an excuse for letting things get out of hand or some other cop out of some kind cause that would be better.

But doing this shit and honestly being surprised with anything means your doing this all wrong and your gonna get boned most likely. There is no excuse, at least for longer then a month members on this form, but it happens sometimes, for sure.

I found that doing something new, like heroin, and realizing the high is maybe not as great as your research indicated, but almost, and that the withdrawals or perhaps only mid level hellish torture, instead of the expected mid to high level hellish torture, then your gonna do better the most, for sure.

I dunno why it works, but i found that never being surprised about something cause you did the research and expected and planned for the worst, besides the obvious benefits, somehow takes the demon out of it and makes it just another thing that was what you expected it to be and you can then deal with it logically as just another challenge in life instead of perhaps giving it more power over you with emotional responses.

I know its harder then just another challenge but im saying your mindset in this regard can make all the difference. Fear through lack of detailed info leads to flawed attempts at coping and managing all the shit, which is often totally unrelated to actual dequate knowlege, but rather your opinion of whether you have adequate knowledge, perhaps confidence related, and this stuff is for sure some of life's hardest challenges, so be prepared is all and never be surprised about a single fukin thing, but i still accept its always been a game for risk takers and spontaneous situations with unexpected results and i cant fault how life works sometimes.

Just a random thought on the topic that works well for me. At the very least longer term members here should be expected to follow a similar process or concept, else your membership here is not being used correctly. Im assuming however that most people who apply here, and remain active, do so for the purpose of getting educated on the topic and their activites and related choices, to improve their lives.

 

[XThexXTank]

Yeah man gettn hooked on opiates is very easy. I remember when I goot hooked. Ya get up one day and ya got a fever. Dump out a coupla bags snort em and bam just like that yer feelin much better! Big fuckin mistake. Don't do it man. It sucks spendin all that $$$ and then ya got tollerance the worst thing out there. I remember I use to be afriad of doin 3 blues cuz I mite OD but now its like fuck I gotta eat 15. Of them lil motherfuckers and gotta snort like 15 bags to get noddn. I'm prolly gonna start IVing a lot more. Not a big fan of the needle but its too fuckin expensive now.