• LAVA Moderator: Shinji Ikari

Just pick up and go!?!

Who knows, maybe it could get me laid in a barnyard with a hot chick in true country fashion, and then her conservative christian dad can pitchfork my ass back to the road.

Lol that'd be epic bro!!

Btw you're the exact type of person I was thinkin of when I started this thread thank you for sharing so much valuable info it's greatly appreciated.

I have some questions for you now. What kind of job did you land in London? How much was rent there? And the same two questions regarding LA. Did you line up a place first or a job? did you already have friends or family there?

I don't have anything lined up if I move it would be a complete fresh start. I'm even planning on sleepin in my car til I figure stuff out but I though gettin a job first would be the smartest then find a place closest to that as possible.

I've only been to Chicago twice but I love the city and that was my first choice, but I live in MI and thought it would be nice to skip a winter for a change. LA sounded great when i was imagining it in my head but you definitely brought it back down to earth lol But thaz cool thaz why I'm inquiring about these things.
Maybe I'll start of in chicago see how it goes then gradually head west. Colorado sounds super cool too so I at least need to visit there.
If I were to move to Chicago where would be an ideal place to live and/or work? Most of my experience is in restaurants but I'm totally open to something new including going back to school.
The way you talk about Chicago totally is swaying me now because I've been there and have a very small idea of what it's about. Plus I wouldn't be that far from my family if I needed to go back for any reason. I plan on moving after new years so it'll still be cold which is a bit of a deterrent but a couple months go by and Bam it's spring then summer which I should be adjusted with a job a place and some friends by then.
Awesome input tho homey thanks again for sharing your story as I'm sure many people including myself have benefited from reading it.

Keep em coming ppl this thread keeps gettn better!!
 
I mean when it comes down to it, southern California is definitely more well known for giving an experience of "warm sandy beaches" than it is for "life in the big city", this is why I feel like LA falls flat on giving a "city life" experience, and the beaches of LA are nothing to brag about, though Venice Beach can be kinda cool, but it is a bit of a sleazy place. I have a huge fondness for riding subway trains and for pretty looking vintage style apartments with fire escapes, both of which LA has a small amount of, but very small amount. I mean "warm sandy beaches" is not really my cup of tea, but I can totally understand how it can be for someone, and if you want the warm sandy beaches experience of living in southern california I would suggest living in places like santa barbara, Malibu ($$$), Orange County ($$), or San Diego ($), San Diego has a small city feeling to it but it's too laid back for my tastes. Quite honestly the only really solid reason I can see for someone wanting to live in LA is to work in the film industry, and it really is a big industry and you can get pretty far if you meet the right people and play your cards right, as well as giving the effort and dedication required.

As for my employement status, well... I tend to get some dirty looks from some people when they find this out about me but I come from a family that is decently well off, so I don't have too much money problems, though I'm definitely not happy or fulfilled to live this way and especially lately since I'm getting a little older (24) I've been putting much thought into what I'm going to do to make myself feel fulfilled, feel like I accomplished something and just overall happy. I could definitely stay in LA and continue to try to take myself further working in film production, but with the amount of douche bags that work in the industry and how I'm just not enjoying this city as much as I enjoyed Chicago I just don't see it as worth it for me. Working in film/entertainment can really be great for some people though, I just don't see it like that for myself.

Now as for London, much like bagochina/seedless's experience living in NYC I basically did jack shit, and rent is fucking expensive as FUCK out there, imagine getting an apartment in NYC and instead of paying what you would in dollars you pay it in sterling pounds. Even the shitholes start at approx. 1000$ a month american money, for like a studio, go on gumtree.com (UK's version of craigslist) and see for yourself. There's many things you just don't really have much of in the UK that you take for granted living in the US, like 24 hour places to eat or buy groceries. Everywhere is basically straight up closed on Sundays. As you can imagine the weather sucks much more than it does in Chicago, and the skies are gray all the time. London does have an amazing pub/nightlife kind of scene unlike anywhere else I've seen, especially in places like Camden Town. Basically if I had continued to stay in London the only job I could see myself landing was in the back kitchen of a dodgy food establishment, I mean yeah I could've gone to school over there, but the education system over there just doesn't give as many oppurtunities to the average joe as it does in the US, unless of course you're going to one of the class establishments like city college of london, or oxford/cambridge. London is expensive as fuck, and the rich tend to be very rich, and the poor tend to live off of the generous socialist European welfare that they give out. The fact that everything is so expensive means that you can definitely make a shitload of money in London if you play your cards right, and this money would in practical terms be worth much more if you decided to take it back to the US. I feel that London can be an ideal place if you're looking to work in industries like finance, banking, stocks, generally a lot of things that require a degree and credentials. You can be Okay working in places like restaurants or hotels, but what they say about the English working "class" isn't for nothing. Having a college degree and credentials also makes it much much easier to get a visa to work there as well, and basically guaranteed if you have like a master's degree or a phd. So in the end I took my future into consideration, and the factors that made me move back to the US are

A. It's much more expensive for me to fuck around and not do much over there than it is in the US.

B. If I was to go back to school and get an education I would get much more out of it to do it in the US.

The beautiful thing of America is that you can make someone out of yourself even if you're a nobody, even if you have to go to community college and work hard and apply yourself, even someone who has risen as high up in life as Colin Powell went to a community college at one point, look it up if you want. In the UK if you're a slacker and looking to turn your life around you basically have to go back to their version of high school and work yourself up, the downpoints to this is that it's A. in my opinion degrading and B. it takes more years to get the same level of credentials you would acquire if you wanted to do it in the US. There are some very solid reasons as to why people flock to America from all over the world looking for something better, I am actually pretty against people coming here illegally and taking the low paying jobs from people that are struggling that were born and raised in America, I think it's total bullshit when people say illegal immigrants take the jobs that no one else wants, there's plenty of people that were born and raised here that are struggling!! I am all for people coming to America on a student visa from all over the world and all walks of life and working hard and doing intelligent things and overall contributing and making the US a better place. Even the president Barack Obama agrees with me in that the world is a changing place and the best way to move things forward and get out of the economic decline is education and people just working harder to do jobs that are more technical/cerebral and it is a shame that the US ranks lower in education than a whole number of countries nowadays. I think much of what this has to do with is the American culture and all around laziness that people have all around us. I mean I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago which was pretty quiet, and for me as a 16 year old kid it was a pretty boring place, and at that age it was pretty easy to forget about the bigger picture and just hang out with my friends and smoke pot and whatnot (not that I got anything against smoking pot or that you can't be a pretty fucking succesful person and still do pot or in rare cases even other drugs). If you take one trip to downtown Chicago, you will see plenty of people working in the skyscrapers wearing suits and having cocktails with beautiful women at many of the classy joints down there. I know many people like to talk shit of white collar workers and whatnot, but it begs the question: What the fuck are you doing with your life?. You don't have to be a white collar worker to be succesful either, as I know from personal experience that paperwork can be extremely boring and mind-numbing. There's many things in America that one can strive for and get far at, like something creative: graphic design/advertisement, or perhaps making a shitload of money from the internet. We live in an age where it takes more smarts than ambition to accomplish great things, it's not as easy as getting a job at the gas station like it used to be in WW2 days, even if you want to be a mechanic nowadays you have to finish a certificate program. I feel like American society was a lot less lazy and oversaturated in the WW2 days than it now also. Like I said I'm against illegal immigration, but lets say someone from the slums of Pakistan was able to make a decent amount of cash from the internet, and they took this money and used it to enroll and get a student visa in the US. Even if this guy doesn't even have a high school diploma as is often the case in many poor countries, he can get a student visa and be in a program that teaches english and gives a GED. You're not allowed to work on a US student visa except for helping out on campus for 20 hours a week (I've known some people), but this guy could continue to make money off of internet advertisements and eventually work his way up to becoming a legal resident of the us (or marrying a US citizen which would be the easier way). I would be happy to have someone like this in our country who is willing to work his ass off legitimately and is escaping poverity. Hell I would imagine this guy to be a much harder worker than some fatass who likes to sit around and eat mcdonald's and watch TV all day... American Laziness, a problem that needs to be fixed or it will lead to the downfall of our country... and don't even get me started on the inner city neighborhoods and the allure of selling illegal drugs instead of going to school and trying to work up to a well paying normal job!

Okay sorry about that I was going off on a bit of a tangent, but you say you like my writings, and employement is a hugely important part of just about anyone's life.

Now let's talk about possibly my favorite place ever: Chicago!

Probably my favorite place in Chicago is wicker park! I like it because it's a very artsy kinda neighborhood, many "eccentric" or "hipster" types live there, there are many really cool cafes, bars, music venues, etc. They say silverlake is the "hipster" neighborhood of LA but I don't think you can compare that to wicker park, frankly it looked like there were more illegal immigrant families living in silverlake than hipsters, echo park made famous for many of the gangbanger scenes in "Training Day" is getting a bit hipster-gentrified nowadays but I still wouldn't see this as a good comparison to somewhere like Logan Square. I just feel like Chicago has more of those cool looking bar and novelty stores in those neighborhoods, and in echo park and silverlake there's like only a very few of them on a few busy corners and way too much residential HOUSES where many latino families live (not being racist), while chicago it's mostly nothing but the classic style vintage fire escape type apartments where all sorts of fun times and fun people with beer kegs await. I guess wicker park used to be a shithole but gentrification and younger kids with rich parents going to college and whatnot moving in there have made it a bit more pricy within the last decade, if you'd like to spend less on rent you can take note that the same gentrification process is happening in neighboring Logan Square right now with many "hip" bars and novelt stores opening, and if you go a little west from Logan Square you get into the westside where much of the open street heroin market in the city is at and white people are rare to see, as fondly as many addicts on the site talk of going there to score it's not the type of place to spend too much time at. Rent of course would be cheaper in the westside as it is poverty stricken but it is straight up a 90% black neighborhood where cops will generally stop you just because you're white and the only reason they see you being there is to score drugs, not to mention robberies, muggings, and breakings would be common in that area. But yeah wicker park is closer to the core of the city and closer to everything else all around so it is still my favorite neighborhood to live in the city. I've also had some amazing times with amazing people there..

Now if you're looking for a true "Chicago" neighborhood you have wrigleyville where Wrigley Field the home of the Chicago Cubs is at, this is also a very cool neighborhood with lots of cool people, though the people you find here will be more into drinking beer and watching some sports than the people in Wicker Park where the people would be more into making paintings and seeing rock bands or some shit. I mean, I still do like to hang out with some "bros" and watch a game every now and then, you will definitely still find some classic Chicago style vintage apartments with fire escapes down here. Wrigleyville is culturally like somewhere in between Wicker Park and Lincoln Park which I'm going to get to next. Oh yeah and wrigleyville is next to Lake Michigan!!

Lincoln Park is also a very pretty neighborhood next to Lake Michigan, rent is slightly more pricey here, and generally much of the youth of the Chicago "upper caste" live here who study at Loyola University and Depaul University which are both expensive private universities known for giving Law degrees. There's also a ritzy yacht club nearby where old Jewish investor types go to hang out with their trophy wives. One of my more preppy kinda friends had a job there as a bitch boy serving booze to the wealthy haha.

Oh yeah Chicago is also very pedestrian friendly, with a very solid underground rail system (The "L"), this adds to the social value, as sometimes I will actually run across somebody I know on a train or on the street walking past a bar or a friend's apartment, some of these trains run 24 hours but it can be a bit dangerous riding them at like 3am, muggings are common on the trains at those times. Tickets are cheap to ride the train in Chicago, $3.50 being the price for a round trip, and if you are a student you can get a U-Pass which gives you UNLIMITED access to all trains and busses in Chicago. LA is not pedestrian friendly much, you have to DRIVE everywhere, and parking and traffic can suck. LA does have a metro rail system but many of the stations are too far apart. Parking can be difficult in Chicago, but depending on the neighborhood not impossible, and you can really can be totally alright not owning a car at all in Chicago! not so much in LA. London has the famous "London Underground" system which was the first underground rail system built in the world, it is EXPENSIVE, and none of the trains run 24 hours, though the stations are well places and it is an efficient way to get around, I've never had a car in London. Riding through downtown Chicago on an elevated L train is just downright beautiful though, I reminisce fondly of taking the L in the morning to go downtown from Lincoln Park when I was going to college.

You can wikipedia a lot of these Chicago neighborhoods, and you can of course look on craigslist to look at the prices for apartments.

I've only driven through Colorado, I didn't stop and hang out at all, but there is some serious breathtaking natural scenery there! Well I've spent the night at one of the college dorms in Ft. Collins, very laid back vibes in Colorado.

A lot of the stuff I'm writing is really hard to explain unless you've lived it, but I am doing my best and if you have any more questions ask away! Looking at stuff on wikipedia, google earth, or google images is fun too!
 
it takes more smarts than ambition to accomplish great things, it's not as easy as getting a job at the gas station like it used to be in WW2 days, even if you want to be a mechanic nowadays you have to finish a certificate program. I feel like American society was a lot less lazy and oversaturated in the WW2 days than it now also. Like I said I'm against illegal immigration, but lets say someone from the slums of Pakistan was able to make a decent amount of cash from the internet, and they took this money and used it to enroll and get a student visa in the US.

oh yeah. !
 
I too have moved around across the country, Initially i never thought I would end up where I did and where I am now for all that matters. I one event that pushed me over the edge and move was my use of Meth and basically running away from what happened and also the people that were around. I could write a book on that experience alone. But it was a decision i made randomly. I did not really tell anyone for about two weeks but then a week before i cracked and told my parents and a select few others. I pretty much gave up everything and left all the stuff with my mother in storage in Spokane Washington. . at the time I was leaving Seattle, Washington. . . After Seattle the random ticket was a RT ticket going to Paris France but then riding the train to Berlin and then back to paris and then Hawaii and that was the second adventure. . .

I am not going to get into why i moved every time but every time I have had the time of my life or loads of fun. The first time was a drop everything and everyone and go. . the second was just time to travel = I had to get off the Island . . I also wanted see more. . . The third time was just whatever kinda put and dropped off . . not sure what to think about the last travel leap . . Overall it gets hard every time to meet new friends and leave old ones and purchase things all over again and wonder if purchasing things is going to be a waste if you continue to move. . Live in the moment, As long as I have my computer I stay pretty happy. . . I have met some amazing people and done some crazy things but so have many other people. . .

I would definitely do it again woot .
 
YOU ONLY GO AROUND ONCE! Grab everything you fucken can!

I like how Gavatron put that:)

I moved 22 times before I turned 19. My dad's job moved us around a lot, in the states and overseas, and then at 15 I ran away and moved from state to state until I hit this town and felt like I had found home. I loved moving. I liked being an outsider. Even after I settled here, for years I just worked long enough to get money to travel and then sublet my house and took off again. There is nothing better than leaving everything that is familiar as a way to learn to live with yourself. And when you're young is the time to try it out.

You sound like you are in a perfect position to go. Good luck.
 
This thread reminds me of a quote, "Brevity is the soul of wit."

loljk ;)

Actually, it reminded me of a quote by Rimbaud, "Idle youth, enslaved to everything; by being too sensitive I have wasted my life."
 
I too have moved around across the country, Initially i never thought I would end up where I did and where I am now for all that matters. I one event that pushed me over the edge and move was my use of Meth and basically running away from what happened and also the people that were around. I could write a book on that experience alone. But it was a decision i made randomly. I did not really tell anyone for about two weeks but then a week before i cracked and told my parents and a select few others. I pretty much gave up everything and left all the stuff with my mother in storage in Spokane Washington. . at the time I was leaving Seattle, Washington. . . After Seattle the random ticket was a RT ticket going to Paris France but then riding the train to Berlin and then back to paris and then Hawaii and that was the second adventure. . .

I am not going to get into why i moved every time but every time I have had the time of my life or loads of fun. The first time was a drop everything and everyone and go. . the second was just time to travel = I had to get off the Island . . I also wanted see more. . . The third time was just whatever kinda put and dropped off . . not sure what to think about the last travel leap . . Overall it gets hard every time to meet new friends and leave old ones and purchase things all over again and wonder if purchasing things is going to be a waste if you continue to move. . Live in the moment, As long as I have my computer I stay pretty happy. . . I have met some amazing people and done some crazy things but so have many other people. . .

I would definitely do it again woot .

Your experiences sound pretty cool and I'm sure you've gained a lot of knowledge and sense of culture along the way. I hope to have a similar experience although I'm not sure how often I plan on moving but hey who knows rite? I'm ready and willing to go wherever the wind will take me.
I can usually make friends but Im not super social so Ill have to see what thats like. I think if I can land a job at a restaurant or something I should be ok. Ive always made friends in those close knit type of enviroments. As for belongings i'm selling everything that don't fit in an Impala and thaz all I plan on taking. I have an air mattress so rite now thaz all ill need.
Thanks for sharing I'm glad your travels were enjoyable and you definitely helped stir my inspiration.
 
I like how Gavatron put that:)

I moved 22 times before I turned 19. My dad's job moved us around a lot, in the states and overseas, and then at 15 I ran away and moved from state to state until I hit this town and felt like I had found home. I loved moving. I liked being an outsider. Even after I settled here, for years I just worked long enough to get money to travel and then sublet my house and took off again. There is nothing better than leaving everything that is familiar as a way to learn to live with yourself. And when you're young is the time to try it out.

You sound like you are in a perfect position to go. Good luck.

Thank you I agree with everything you said as I definitely consider myself somewhat of an outsider. I think that'll help me adapt in new places because I don't need a lot of ppl in my life to be happy or stay entertained although eventually I'd like to meet a woman and hopefully get married and possibly children. One step at a time tho ; )
 
Well, I hope wherever and whenever you go, that you post a travelogue so some of us can live vicariously through you!:)
 
I plan to jump ship sometime next year and go work/travel and live overseas.. nothing planned; just going to see what happens (I'm 22). I've never been truly on my own in terms of responsibility, so i am forcing myself into doing something that requires me to take absolute responsibility for myself by being completely on my own (working up the courage!). I've done a bit of traveling before but never by myself.. but there's nothing i love more then been in unfamiliar surroundings, new people, places etc.. Gotta keep life fresh!

Have fun, and good luck with your journey!
 
I've pulled up roots more than once, and even when it didn't pan out, no regrets, right? If there is any purpose in life, it is to experience. Just always remember that where ever you go, there you are.
 
Earlier this year I decided to move from Australia to the USA. That was cool though definitely a big change. I arrived in LA (because it's the closest place to Aus and consequently the cheapest flight), I stayed in Hollywood first then Santa Monica. I wasn't a big fan of Hollywood, it's not really my style, I much prefer nature and the outdoors and was really looking forward to travelling to the national parks in California and as many of the other US states as I could - I was going to travel up the west coast then across the top. Santa Monica was a nicer place but again, I didn't fall in love with it. The beaches like Malibu were quite a let down to me - I guess I'm biased because Australia has so much beautiful coastline. I stayed in hostels during my time there and that really was great, I met a lot of fantastic people. Unfortunately I broke my ankle just as I was starting to find my feet (ha) and since I was travelling alone and didn't have a permanent place to stay, I had to come home as I couldn't walk for 3 months.

Now that my ankle has recovered, I'm moving again, on the spur of the moment, to the other side of Australia. I went on a holiday to Darwin with a friend recently. I loved it, a beautiful place, great atmosphere, tropical plants and weather and thought fuck it, why not move there? So that's what I'm doing - I have a flight in 2 days. I don't know anyone there but I'm quite comfortable on my own - in fact I pretty much prefer exploring new places on my own. I love plants and most people don't share my excitement on seeing a new species of flower ;) But I'll be quite happy to spend hours wandering around on my own seeing new things.

I'm staying in a backpackers hostel first off, it's a good way to meet people. Paying for a week when I get there and see what happens from there, might find a sharehouse or something. When my travel insurance is all sorted out I'll be back to the states :)

I do need a change though. I've spent far too much of my life mooching along in Melbourne not really doing much, just floating. I really hope this change is what I need and helps me out of the rut I've been in for a few years.
 
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Hey I'm just looking for stories, good or bad, of people's experiences moving outta town/outta state.

I day dream about this all the time. I know some people will say the grass always looks greener on the other side, but there are prolly just as many success stories too.

I currently don't have much going on, no girl, part time dead end job, and I turneEvd 30 in may so this seems like great timing to do something adventurous with my life.

Even in the event it doesnt work out and I come back with my preverberal tail tucked between my legs I still think this could be a great experience.

Please share your experience and any advice you'd give someone who has a similar desire.

Thank you for your time!!


Stop waiting and do it. (Though it wouldn't hurt to do a little planning at any rate.)
 
I got into meth really bad in my hometown and I just decided to up and leave one day because I had enough. I met my friends Sam and Nikola online through this website and one day in January when I was feeling manic I asked them to come pick me up. They did it and I stayed with them up here in Spokane for a week. Sam knew I was having a hard time so she kept offering to let me come and live with her and her girl friend and each time I would decline. Well, one day, when I was crashing I decided to take a bunch of Xanax and drink to the point where I blacked out. My best friend told me all of the crazy shit I did and I just couldn't take it anymore. I called Sam, packed up all of my shit up in two suitcases and took the greyhound bus up here. It's been three months now and I've already found one job but I had a bipolar moment and I quit.

Currently, I'm sleeping on a pull out bed in the living room in a one bedroom apartment with two other people but it's better than what I had before. I like a lot better because I'm finally on my own and I'm away from all the bad influences. I've been sober from everything except weed since I moved up here. Sometimes it gets a little boring because I don't know anybody really except for my roomies but that should change soon once I find another job. If things work out I have my family back home supporting me and I could go back but I don't see that happening.

I don't know, sometimes just taking a chance and up and moving really helps in the long run.
 
I run away from the cold .... I've struggled through 4 Melbourne winters that twist me into a reclusive troll creature. But then summer arrives and i'm the happiest most outgoing muthafucka on my block!

When Jack Frost comes back to Melbourne in 5 months time i'm gaping it to India! The good people at the Indian embassy hand out 6 month visas like Wonka bars!

Then i will rummage around the country getting in all types of mischief under a nice hot baking sun :) My life is gong to be an endless summer from now on .... already started saving.
 
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