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Just how dangerous is coke?

AbraMontague

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Ok i have only done coke a few times before and I bought a gram today (got tired of looking for crystal but I think I finally got the hookup for it). I only did a key bump at a keg party and so most of the gram is left. I am just wondering how dangerous coke is compared to meth, ritalin, adderall? Have many (any) of you suffered serious health problems from acute (short term) use of it? I am curious because I have yet to find an internet site that objectively describes the dangers. Even erowid lists "death, heart attack, stroke" under physical effects of coke. I am just trying to get as many opinions as possible on this matter (preferably from people who have done it before, I don't need a rehash of all the sites google lists when you search for cocaine.) Anyways thanks (and don't tell me that my post sounds funny, at least I used periods.)
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since no one has responded to your Q yet, i'll offer my humble opinion.
i've never suffered health problems from short term use (meaning weekends, etc). the problem with coke for me is that it's too much fun when i'm partying and if i have it, i blow it. i am certainly concerned about it's addictive qualities which is why i don't do it all the time.
no one i know has ever suffered any problems but no one i know goes nuts on it either. a coupla few key bumps probably won't kill you,
but everyone's different, obviously.
i've only tried adderral and meth once. both made me very antsy. so i can't really speak to that.
i was on ritalin from ages 8-15 b/c i actually have ADD (you can imagine how many friends are trying to get my ass to go to a doctor and get a prescription), so ritalin doesn't do shit for me.
guess i really didn't answer your question, but i'm bored.
enjoy your gram!
someone's going to jump down my throat for offering my opinion, i can just feel it.
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It all depends on the person using it.
Pure cocaine isn't dangerous used in moderation for most people (there are always exceptions of course). What are dangerous is all the shit they cut it with. Stuff like brick dust lodges in your arteries and causes a lot of problems.
 
why would people cut it with "brick dust lodges"? The people selling the stuff usually want their customers to live and comeback for more!
 
due to coke use, I now have chronic sinus problems and i have to have surgery on my nose to correct the damage I did with snorting...also coke made my already bad insomnia even a million times worse. I've literally had a stuffy nose for like a year now..it sucks.
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Excellent reply. I think that's kinda what he was looking for.
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I never really liked coke all that much...If it ever comes around these days I'll either rock it up and smoke it or just pass on it...The short lived high from smoking is intense and fun <much like IV>, but the comedown is just too un-bearable for me.
I can't speak firsthand on any health problems, but I do have a brother who has used crack bi-weekly for years.
Though I can't really tell a difference in his level of intelligence, I can definitely tell a difference in his mood swings. He acts almost bipolar these days, and as soon as the last rock is gone, his eyes are empty and black.
If he doesn't think he'll be getting crack that night, he won't want to get out of bed.
Physically he says he isn't the same anymore. His stamina is gone...he can't even walk up stairs without having to stop and catch his breath.
Strangely though he is the strongest MOFO I've ever met...even today.
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It's sad that a drug, even one that isn't physically addictive, can take control and change a person so much in just a short period of time.
I can't really say I know you personally, but you've been on the board for long enough to show you are above average intelligence...and it *seems* you have stronger-than-normal willpower...those of us with strong willpower are blessed...just make sure you're not going to let coke, or any drug, take control...</preach>
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Thanks for the replies (everything except for the brick dust thing). The main concern I have is the acute risk of serious health problems like heart attack, stroke, seizure. I think the risk for these problems is less than the media portrays but I know there is some risk (probably more than most other drugs). Since I am not smoking or injecting it, I figure my risk is reduced some. Also, I am not like some of my vacuum nosed friends who can take a gram to the head in one line (why I don't know). So you guys think key bumps are pretty harmless? Also, since I can get crystal now, should I maybe look into that? I imagine that it is no more harmful than coke. I think coke is going to have limited value for me because I was mainly looking for something like adderall that would keep me energetic all day long (you know, a bump of something before work to make the day go by faster). Thanks.
 
Just telling you how it is man. If you think the coke you got is 100% pure you're dreaming.
At best it's heavily cut with glucose and speed, at worst anything white and dusty.
Same thing with heroin - pure heroin is less damaging to the human body than sugar. Once it's cut with brick dust it starts causing enormous weeping sores at injection sites and destroying your arteries.
 
I haven't done coke a whole lot but the last eightball I had was cut with a "powerfull numbing agent" and it fucked with my nose hardcore. What you need to worry about is what it is cut with and addiction.
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As for having a heart attack or stroke or something...
That does happen to people, so keep that in mind, but from what stories I have heard through the media the peole that it happens to had unknown heart or other health problem.
So, I guess you should ask yourself, do I feel healthy today?
 
Abra: Since you said that you were looking for something to speed you up for a while,I would suggest go to your doctor and bullshit him into prescribing you adderall.After blowing too much money up my nose with coke,I feel stupid for not just using adderall.You should also try crystal(just make sure you have benzo's on hand)but i tried crystal and i was too wired.I'd just take the adderall.
 
First of all, stop posting replies to my question Peyote, K. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And stinky, cocaine is powerfully numbing by itself. Sigh...
 
Heh...oh boy...
Abra: I'd say that no, for a healthy person who has self control and knows WTF they are doing, a few keybumps won't be a problem.
Here's the problem I see: I couldn't do just a keybump every few hours of coke. It always starts that way...I used to go into the bathroom, do a keybump...15 minutes later, another keybump...then I thought:
"Why am I doing bumps?"
And I proceeded to cut out a gagger that would last me 30 or 45 minutes...but then It was rather obvious that I was amped.
Again back to the health issues.
I've heard some pretty arroneous claims.
"Coke kills heart tissue on contact"
"No matter how much coke you do you permanently damage the mucous membrane"
From what I have read <from reliable sources> and based on my own personal experiences, I don't think there is anything more than a very SLIM risk.
Crystal -vs- Coke? I would say that meth is probably more neurotoxic...but as far as damage to the body...again, if we're just talking about a little bit here and there...
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Peyote K has a good point but the metaphor was lost a little. Brick dust is not a risk for the cocaine user as it isn't white and therefore not used to cut cociane. Brick dust, being browner and remarkably cheap and powdery has been and probably still is used to cut heroin in the UK. It does lodge in arteries and it does cause problems for the user as the body can't metabolise it easily if at all.
Unless I'm being remarkably dense the point was that it isn't the coke you should worry about with regards health problems, although there are risks, it's more likely that problems can occur through unscrupulous cutting. This is more likely in areas where there isn't a good supply and prices are high.
 
while I've never personally done coke, I have a friend who did a LOT of it a while back...
My friend, like someone else mentioned they have problems with, she has SERIOUS nasal problems from snorting. She too, has to get surgery on her nose, and cannot really breathe clearly through either nostril, though one is a bit less clogged than the other. She hates not being able to breathe through her nose.
I snorted crystal for a long time, and have had similar problems with my nose, that are compounded by the fact that I have VERY bad nasal allergies..
I don't know about heart attacks and so forth, but I'd assume if you do too much, or are already at risk for a heart attack, or have an irregular or quick heartbeat, you might not want to risk it. Things that speed your heart rate up can really mess with you if you've got a pre-existing heart condition.
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Man what I would give for some pure cocaine!! Too bad people have to cut it so much, but as far as damaging yourself, if your already high strung, it'll just make you irritable, xanax in small amounts is great for the agitation, especially when your out of coke
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I find most coke here (jax, fl) is cut with creatine, or ether. Ether gives the enormous numbing but it;s bad for you...I had real coke once in Costa Rica 10$ a gram, awesome, felt like my teeth fell to the floor!!!!
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Elvis used to take two swabs of cotton wool and soak them in pharmaceutical liquid cocaine then stick them up his nose. What Albert Goldman called "a nasal orgasm". Whenever he needed another kick he'd just give his nose a tweak.
One of his stepbrothers said he came home one day and found Elvis cutting up the biggest block of pure cocaine he'd ever seen - he had about a kilo.
 
How about alcohol and cocaine combined? I know a lot of you coke users always drink with it. I read at emedicine.com (cocaine, toxicity) that cocaethylene increases the risk of sudden death by a factor of 25. I wonder if the risk of sudden death from coke alone is so small that when you multiply it by 25 that it is still just a very small chance. I find it hard not to drink after you do coke because it gets rid of the jitters and I drink about every night anyway.
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I agree that most of the problems deriving from acute use are related to the cut. Also overdosing on coke is no fun: seizures (scary shit! the next day your body is as sore as if you had a very intense workout, very disorienting) a couple of those times I blacked out after the seizures and my friends told me that I was behaving like a scared animal and would get violent if people were trying to get close to me supposedly I even got hold of a big kitchen knife trying to fend off my concerned friends that wanted to try and calm me down, during one of those seizures I broke my nose,during another I dislocated my shoulder and broke a bone. All of those od'd happened because I was shooting mass amounts trying to recreate the "bell ringers" from the first shot of the session. I never od'd for snorting and I also never heard of anybody that did , just use some common sense and you should be allright, just keep in mind that coke is one of the most psycologically addictive drugs ..... all considered , moderation is the key word when dealing with coke.
just my two cents.
-cristina
 
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