Just how badly should one take note that he/she is about to consume a RC?

[rizmatter]

I was just thinking i might see what ethylphenidate is all about until it hit me that hardly anything is known about the medium to long term consequences of consumIng it are.
I've done ALOT of mephedrone before, but i was young, naive and indestructable (obviously)

But it really just struck me that trying any RC simply once or twice may lead to minor or serious health issues in the future. - how valid is that claim? Or is it more to do with knowing your chemistry and doing your background research properly and making as much of an informed decision as you can ?

How much of a risk do you think RCs are

 

[duckeee]

Short answer: everything is a risk. Read up, calculate, make smart decisions - but risk never ceases to exist.

Short answer 2: you can only make one choice and live with the consequences. For example - I can't go back and UNdo all the drugs, so health issues I have or might have in the future may or may not be caused by drugs. It's similar with people who smoke all their lives and never get cancer vs people who have never lit a fag in their life and die of lung cancer. Meaning: so many factors to consider and in the end no one knows exactly. (In some cases relations are clear, of course. My granddad smoked a pack a day for 40 years so no one was really surprised he finally died of lung cancer. But imagine he would have maybe done some RCs in his youth? He would probably wondered the same: if I didn't had that line, would I have been saved on lung cancer?)

Long answer... I think your question can be also analyzed philosophically. For instance, I believe that since there are all those awesome and horrible ways to alter one state of mind, one might argue that man is MEANT to alter his mind. People have always found ways to get high or drunk and they probably always will. So is there a greater risk with RCs than, for example, the risk was for first indian to smoke whatever they smoked? In the end all that matters is what you believe. If you believe your body can take anything, you act on it - but you shouldn't be surprised if it sooner or later fails. I believe I don't want to burden my body TOO much but I yet like to alter my senses and try new things (also new highs), so I try to do it as responsibly as possible. Not forgetting my body probably can't take everything but yet remembering that... it would be fucking silly to die healthy, wouldn't it? Sooner or later you get ill. Is it because you did meph when 16? Or is it because you lived next to busy street? Or is it you genetics mingling? There are million factors that finally can make you sick. But living almost always makes you sick and always ends with dying...

 

[golden1]

It's both. You should make as informed of as decision as possible, but it could still end up giving you health issues(even prescribed drugs have serious side effects in some people).

It's completely dependent on the complete pharmacology of the research chemical, of which many have little to no data. You can make assumptions based on similarly structured drugs, for example ones in the same family, and read other people's experiences, but beyond that it's impossible to tell if its going to have some unknown effect, possibly personal to you or a subset of the population.

Basically you need science in order to find out how much of a risk something is and there is very little science on many internet chemicals. The less data something has on it the more possible risk at this point.

 

[rizmatter]

Two excellent answers!
Duckee you went deep man - I like it alot

 

[duckeee]

Two excellent answers!
Duckee you went deep man - I like it alot

I know, right! And then people tell you that drugs make you stupid(er)

 

[Hiltoniano]

I think rc's are similar to street drugs. If you honesty know what you are doing, thoroughly research it (some real data is necessary to safely try something new), and maybe the most important, trust your supplier is gving you what you want unaltered and unadulterated, then you shouldn't worry too much. I mean you know yourself better than anyone else could so I think you would know after you have fucked up at least... The signs will make evident themselves eventually.

 

[nAON]

You can't really define a drug by calling it an RC. This is an extremely broad term that covers countless numbers of different drugs all with different chemical structures, psychoactive effects, health effects, doses, etc.

If you're looking for information on a particular RC, make a thread about it specifically, but by asking a question like this you may as well be asking something like 'is drugs good for me?'.

 

[phatass]

it would be easier if there were some sort of testing kits for RC's, or alternatively trust a government to create a regulated drug market and then it would be like buying booze or cigarettes, at least the "effects" and "risks" would be better known, allowing you to make a more iformed, and hopefully responsible desscision on what you choose to "take"

 

[Bruce Haze]

You can't really define a drug by calling it an RC. This is an extremely broad term that covers countless numbers of different drugs all with different chemical structures, psychoactive effects, health effects, doses, etc.

If you're looking for information on a particular RC, make a thread about it specifically, but by asking a question like this you may as well be asking something like 'is drugs good for me?'.

nAON is absolutely right. It would be incorrect to say they are all bad, because I am positive there are some RC's that are at the complete opposite end of the harmful spectrum than others.

If your flat-out bound and determined to use a particular RC, then try and find some some kind of studies or at least evaluations of people. Things you might want to try and look up would be military psych ward reports. There, you can see if any soldiers have been abusing it. I remember reading military psych ward reports about "spice" Haha. But any type of studies or anything you can find on the chemical would be useful. If your going to do it no matter what, then at least try and read some trip reports on Bluelight or just any threads relating to it really just searching for some info. Use erowid and click more experiences and go to health problems and read people's reports.

Good luck and be safe with your possible future RC use my fellow Bluelighter!

 

[Tarnum]

duckee had a great post. I've thought about that in depth. Sometimes when im smoking a cigarette, I catch myself looking at it and thinking "damn that nasty ass smoke is going in my lungs" but I know that if i think like that, the EXTREMELY powerful PSYCHE can have an impact wether it be positive or negative.

 

[rizmatter]

You can't really define a drug by calling it an RC. This is an extremely broad term that covers countless numbers of different drugs all with different chemical structures, psychoactive effects, health effects, doses, etc.

If you're looking for information on a particular RC, make a thread about it specifically, but by asking a question like this you may as well be asking something like 'is drugs good for me?'.

I'm terribly sorry sir naon. By RC i just meant drugs that do not have the depth and Breadth of research most other controlled drugs have put into them. Thus they represent (theoretically) a bigger risk when consumed.
I was just interested to hear bl'ers opinion on the matter.
I will be extra considerate for highers such as yourself when posting in the future, so i don't get patronised again.
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[nAON]

^ didn't mean to be patronising if that's how I came across. But your question just seemed very unspecific.

It's gonna be difficult to predict the risk with any drug, even those that have been around for decades tend to have very little data available on longterm effects, simply because of the way the scene works and the general lack of formal medical research that goes into them.