Rebound hypotension and strong deficiency of iron - my experience
So today I got totally freaked out for about 2 hours.
I got quite hot and somewhat sweatty when inside, felt normal outside. My body got generally weaker and it was harder to speak, not to talk about singing (my voice got weaker). I wasn't physically weak, but only felt weak, because 45kg hand grip with one hand didn't tire my arm significantly. Keep in mind, that by that time I already had anxiety and maybe a little panic attack. Though I managed to pronounce words perfectly well, I couldn't talk for very long without a short pause, but that could have been because I was breathing deeply through my mouth and had subconsciously rejected breathing through nose while talking. My vision was a bit odd outside and things farther away looked blurry. When I went to the mirror, my face was pale. Not pale as white, but it's usually darker, when I washed it with warm water it instantly turned darker (normal color). I noticed my hands were shaking. I also had this odd sensation (a couple of times), as if a drop of water would have fallen on my hand, but I was inside by that time.
It was really hard to catch my pulse, mostly from wrist, maybe two times (well I measured my pulse every 10 seconds :D) from neck and couldn't feel my heart rate from chest, and it was constantly slowing down (not quickly, gradually, but falling not raising). In the beginning I have a couple of odd pin and needle sensations in my chest, but they were really weak and lasted for less than half a second. When I started catching my pulse again, it felt like my heart was beating at irregular strength, but it could have been, that I didn't feel it beating well enough. I had some neck stiffness as well, but I could move my head the whole degree. Also I was constantly moving my fingers and toes, just to make sure it's really not a stroke.
The things that made me worry the most - general weakness, weak voice (both of which are signs of stroke), unable to catch the pulse, some vision blurriness, pale face, sweating.
Now I've never had so strong symptoms from withdrawal, so it made me worry. I had really strong panic attack, so that probably boosted those effects. I took a-PVP and lidocaine combo for maybe 2-3 weeks (not constantly, but most of the days, sleeping for 8-10h practically every night). Yesterday I flushed a-PVP due to tolerance and took a-PHP instead, but without lidocaine.
Now a-PVP probably left my body tonight, because after the case my heart rate was slower than after waking up today or yesterday (when I hadn't done any a-PHP yet). Also I was coming down off some a-PHP by that time.
Could it be, that coming off two physically strong stimulants about the same time caused so strong rebound effects? The thing is, that 2 hours later I have practically no negative feelings, I even feel good and that mild weakness feels relaxed. I had lidocaine in my a-PVP, which explains why I didn't have these feelings during a-PVP period.
My resting heart rate fell from 120 to 90 and now is back to 90-100. It didn't change when I stood up or sit down again.
Generally when I do stimulants, my heart rate is 120-130 during peak, 90-120 when resting and about two days later goes down to 70 (give or take), that's independent of dosage, unless I overdose. Meaning 10mg and 50mg a-PVP both raise my heart rate to 120-130. I have had very mild chest tightness within last couple of weeks when doing stimulants, no significant chest pain (which would raise any alarm, appearing very rarely, lasting under half a second and being so weak it, at most, could have made me alert for 2 seconds).
I've been eating well, drinking a lot. I had a little accident with (huge dose of) a-PHP and my heart rate hitting 180, but that went down to 150 after sitting down and under 120 within half an hour. My heart has handled over 220bpm with 5-APDB unpredictable accident (most likely unknown MAOI effect, which haven't been researched yet) and I had sublingual etizolam (don't have it anymore
) which took it down to 90 within 10 minutes (down to 130 within 2 minutes). Even then I had no chest pain, tightness or what else, but I was shaking and it felt a bit odd in a serotonergic way (didn't realize my condition until I touched my chest just out of curiosity).
Less than year ago I had full health check-up in ER, where I went with unbearable stomach pain, which turned out to be hypergastrinemia, but they took several blood tests and did ultrasonography and absolutely everything was perfect, including hr 70bpm and bp 120/70.
I think if it had been an oncoming stroke, I wouldn't feel so good right now, but as I've never experienced such symptoms, I just make sure by asking you.
So today I got totally freaked out for about 2 hours.
I got quite hot and somewhat sweatty when inside, felt normal outside. My body got generally weaker and it was harder to speak, not to talk about singing (my voice got weaker). I wasn't physically weak, but only felt weak, because 45kg hand grip with one hand didn't tire my arm significantly. Keep in mind, that by that time I already had anxiety and maybe a little panic attack. Though I managed to pronounce words perfectly well, I couldn't talk for very long without a short pause, but that could have been because I was breathing deeply through my mouth and had subconsciously rejected breathing through nose while talking. My vision was a bit odd outside and things farther away looked blurry. When I went to the mirror, my face was pale. Not pale as white, but it's usually darker, when I washed it with warm water it instantly turned darker (normal color). I noticed my hands were shaking. I also had this odd sensation (a couple of times), as if a drop of water would have fallen on my hand, but I was inside by that time.
It was really hard to catch my pulse, mostly from wrist, maybe two times (well I measured my pulse every 10 seconds :D) from neck and couldn't feel my heart rate from chest, and it was constantly slowing down (not quickly, gradually, but falling not raising). In the beginning I have a couple of odd pin and needle sensations in my chest, but they were really weak and lasted for less than half a second. When I started catching my pulse again, it felt like my heart was beating at irregular strength, but it could have been, that I didn't feel it beating well enough. I had some neck stiffness as well, but I could move my head the whole degree. Also I was constantly moving my fingers and toes, just to make sure it's really not a stroke.
The things that made me worry the most - general weakness, weak voice (both of which are signs of stroke), unable to catch the pulse, some vision blurriness, pale face, sweating.
Now I've never had so strong symptoms from withdrawal, so it made me worry. I had really strong panic attack, so that probably boosted those effects. I took a-PVP and lidocaine combo for maybe 2-3 weeks (not constantly, but most of the days, sleeping for 8-10h practically every night). Yesterday I flushed a-PVP due to tolerance and took a-PHP instead, but without lidocaine.
Now a-PVP probably left my body tonight, because after the case my heart rate was slower than after waking up today or yesterday (when I hadn't done any a-PHP yet). Also I was coming down off some a-PHP by that time.
Could it be, that coming off two physically strong stimulants about the same time caused so strong rebound effects? The thing is, that 2 hours later I have practically no negative feelings, I even feel good and that mild weakness feels relaxed. I had lidocaine in my a-PVP, which explains why I didn't have these feelings during a-PVP period.
My resting heart rate fell from 120 to 90 and now is back to 90-100. It didn't change when I stood up or sit down again.
Generally when I do stimulants, my heart rate is 120-130 during peak, 90-120 when resting and about two days later goes down to 70 (give or take), that's independent of dosage, unless I overdose. Meaning 10mg and 50mg a-PVP both raise my heart rate to 120-130. I have had very mild chest tightness within last couple of weeks when doing stimulants, no significant chest pain (which would raise any alarm, appearing very rarely, lasting under half a second and being so weak it, at most, could have made me alert for 2 seconds).
I've been eating well, drinking a lot. I had a little accident with (huge dose of) a-PHP and my heart rate hitting 180, but that went down to 150 after sitting down and under 120 within half an hour. My heart has handled over 220bpm with 5-APDB unpredictable accident (most likely unknown MAOI effect, which haven't been researched yet) and I had sublingual etizolam (don't have it anymore

Less than year ago I had full health check-up in ER, where I went with unbearable stomach pain, which turned out to be hypergastrinemia, but they took several blood tests and did ultrasonography and absolutely everything was perfect, including hr 70bpm and bp 120/70.
I think if it had been an oncoming stroke, I wouldn't feel so good right now, but as I've never experienced such symptoms, I just make sure by asking you.
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