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Ninae

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First, I don't want to provoke anyone on the board who might not appreciate the subject matter.

They could also do well just staying away if they oppose it as violently and has the potential to ruin the whole thread. Constructive comments and questions are welcome as long as they approach the matter with respect and don't just try to turn it into something destructive, as that's not the point of this thread.

I easpecially wanted to create a thread about Jesus that wasn't so dogmatic or even within the typical Christian parameters (though not like a Hippe version of it either).

I'm specially interested in hearing of people's personal experiences with Jesus, as I'm planning to write a book about the true Jesus (seems to me the most worthwhile things you can do in this world).

I have my own experiences but would like to hear other's first as I'm open to what others have to give.

Although everyone are free to comment and ask questions I would like to see the naysayers and the ones who just come to bully and devaluate what we have to share with each other stay away. Not because it's not a free forum but because it will only end up destructive and the value will be lost.

I know there are many who despise this subject but they can just stay away instead of coming to just create disharmony. Pearls before swine, etc. Not as an offence to the swine but they can't appreciate it. So let those who can do.

That's what I have to say about it and I'm looking forward to comminicate with Christ through others.

He blesses us equally and imbue us with The Holy Spirit.

Holy, holy, holy be his name.

But he wants us to understand him and come closer to him.

So anyone who has anything to share are most welcome.

Small groups like these is what his kingdom is built on.

I am only a humble messenger of the Christ but I would like to connect with others of the same conviction to do our small piece which is all we can do.

I want to glorify my life to glorify Christ.

It's the great work of the ages.

We all fall like a domino.

Thank You
 
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Definition:
The only real Jesus is the here-and-now-Jesus embodying agapeic service (help thy neighbor, forgiveness, compassion,...) transcending the inherent egoistic tendencies in human beings.
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Any other Jesus is for me pure non-sense: be it the Jesus presented by biblical scholars, the laymen Jesus who performs miracles, the Jesus of the Vatican "used" to impose a moral code on society, the Jesus people hear in their head, the Jesus who will eventually return to earth and save us,...

Definition 2:
In short: Jesus is not a religious artefact to be studied or worshipped... Jesus is not even a person (i.e. this-or-that-guy), but rather the human potental of overcoming our impure egoistic state. This is not to say that I deny that the "historical Jesus" was maybe the best actualization of this human potential. Agapeic service (=the Jesus-potential) is inherent in everybody. Believing in Jesus is realizing this potential, not believing in Jesus is rejecting this potential.
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p.s. in light of my last definition plenty of atheists also "believe" in Jesus (e.g. volunteers helping homeless people, doctors going to poor countries to help sick children, etc...). Probably, these atheists even "believe more" than some people who waste their time making sense of the Bible or praying all the time.
 
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn

“ ‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’c
37“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
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Ninae, in your opinion what do you think Jesus meant by this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6fyhZ0G5E
 
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Ninae said:
I'm specially interested in hearing of people's personal experiences with Jesus
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I'm not here to bully or de-valuate anything, but seriously, you're a few thousand years too late to ask this question.

In what scope do you want experiences? DO you want those who have been 'saved' or forsaken by him? I'm asking in a honest position as a naysayer that likes to converse in logic, not stories.
 
He speaks German. Or I perceive him in German tongue. I don't know German only when he speaks. You understand what he speaks.
 
I feel Jesus wanted to take a position of authority. So he choose the german language. To command respect.

But his message was from the living God. But he knows what humans are like. They respond to power. He is like a flower from god but humans respond to power.
 
Ninae said:
I feel Jesus wanted to take a position of authority. So he choose the german language. To command respect.

But his message was from the living God. But he knows what humans are like. They respond to power. He is like a flower from god but humans respond to power.
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Makes sense.

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Jesus wants to shower his love on the believers and the non- believers. Normal to him. Only humans got other ideas.

In the 3rd dimen world there is a ravine between believers and non-believers but he smiles on us all.
 
Jesus is everywhere now. No one can stop him. He was the chosen one but what was he chosen for?

To guide mankind towards divinity as our main rolemodel.

He was chosen, but not just by God, by the whole of us as a community. It was an ananymous decision. Because he is the best qualified and we all know all this.

If you lined up a bunch of beings and asked which one we would want we would always choice Jesus because he is the best qualified.

But when we're born we're covered by a veil of ignorance so we forget about all that. But Jesus is a bastard like that, he doesn't come to save us because he wants to teach us to save us ourselves. Because that's what we asked him.

So he doesn't want to end up in paradise being flooded by et. al. saying, " You bastard, you couldnt even keep your promise to us so we could become like you"
 
Serious Ninae.. please lay off the drugs and take whatever advice a health care professional has to offer. I'm really not trying to be horrible or put you down.. my beefs with Jesus and raas ;)

Don't try brushing this (as well as similar messages I've seen from other users) off as unwarranted shite from lesser folk from a less evolved dimension or whatever but super serial..

Like I've said before it's not your beliefs that worry me per se it's your willingness to accept them as fact, no questions asked. You believe you have a telepathic link with Jesus who has decided to speak German to become more authoritative ffs.. Honest question. What would you do if Jesus asked you to kill someone?
 
^This.

Plus double and triple posting is against the forum guidelines.
 
Psyduck said:
Definition:
The only real Jesus is the here-and-now-Jesus embodying agapeic service (help thy neighbor, forgiveness, compassion,...) transcending the inherent egoistic tendencies in human beings.

Any other Jesus is for me pure non-sense: be it the Jesus presented by biblical scholars, the laymen Jesus who performs miracles, the Jesus of the Vatican "used" to impose a moral code on society, the Jesus people hear in their head, the Jesus who will eventually return to earth and save us,...

Definition 2:
In short: Jesus is not a religious artefact to be studied or worshipped... Jesus is not even a person (i.e. this-or-that-guy), but rather the human potental of overcoming our impure egoistic state. This is not to say that I deny that the "historical Jesus" was maybe the best actualization of this human potential. Agapeic service (=the Jesus-potential) is inherent in everybody. Believing in Jesus is realizing this potential, not believing in Jesus is rejecting this potential.

p.s. in light of my last definition plenty of atheists also "believe" in Jesus (e.g. volunteers helping homeless people, doctors going to poor countries to help sick children, etc...). Probably, these atheists even "believe more" than some people who waste their time making sense of the Bible or praying all the time.
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Ninae:
Psyduck posted this comment, and I'm interested in your response to it. It's worth thinking about because it seems like a lot of people, even atheists, can believe in and experience this form of Jesus without getting bogged down in Christian dogma. Also, Jesus (definition number 2) is sending me a psychic message: "Sagen Sie ihr, um etwas Schlaf zu bekommen, bevor sie eine weitere Nachricht schreibt."
Get some sleep before you make another post.
 
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