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Jan 6 Attack on the Capitol and the aftermath

I'm 58 years old. When I was younger, in my 20s to 30s, no one would be able to fuck with our country. We just didn't let it happen. No third parties from other countries with their money and special interests. Dems and Reps still had our differences, and we would go back and forth, but we were in this shit together -- we were all Americans, together! Regan was great, but he fucked up a lot -- Ford was never elected, and replaced the shamed Nixon who was had the ability to do great things for the country, but it was a shit show with Watergate which by the way was what we call a genuine scandal and bonafide presidential fuck up.

I could go on. For the record, the Trump/Biden election was nothing compared to the Thomas Jefferson/John Adams election of 1801. Jefferson literally played so dirty in his quest to win the race and wipe out the Federalist political party that he went to Congress and practically threatened all their lives if they didn't call him the winner. Look it up. But that would be too easy because no one looks back past 5 years anymore, so the dumbing down of this pathetic society marches onward and downward, embarrassing itself into a state where we are wide open for invasion from every country in this world -- including Jamaica!!

We need to go back to the values that made this nation great and moral again. Even at the cost of pissing of cross-dressers, transsexuals, etc., and the fucking outrageous political topic of abortion has got to go. Mother fucker! I think we have other things that we should be addressing right now besides whether or not each and every child bearing woman in this country is going to terminate a pregnancy or not. Who the fuck cares? It's a medical issue and it's private!! If someone thinks the woman is going to hell, then let her. It's none of your fucking concern anyway. Cry for the baby, whatever, but stop worrying and judging people when it isn't your job -- Read Romans 1 - 13! It is between a woman and a doctor. It is no one else's business. If insurance doesn't want to pay for it, than it doens't have to. But that is the end of it. The states have this right. Not the federal government. Know your Constitution people, blah blah blah.

Let people love and marry who and what they want. Who cares. If it doesn't affect your life, than leave it and them alone. It is none of your business.

The government should be OUT of marriages as well. It's a personal relationship for Christ's sake, instead it has only become the definition of being involved with someone you may now legally sue for something, or not, or at any rate, are legally stuck to for however long that is -- talk about the old ball and chain.

And for everyone's information, please read up on how all citizens have the right to physically overthrow our leaders and government if tyranny occurs or in that case, many were unhappy. The facts were that Trump NEVER told anyone to go and "storm the castle," but he encouraged people to make some noise which is every American's right. Of course, the Dems -- WHO NEVER EVEN GAVE TRUMP A CHANCE AND HAD I OUT FOR HIM ABEFORE HE TOOK OFFICE.

So what? He's a virtual slob and not savvy like all the lying crooks in Washington. But he was telling on everyone and they didn't like it. The hypocracy is so epic with the Dems it's sickening. I won't even continue.

In conclusion, if any of you actually believe that Biden and this administration is doing a better job than Trump, or any other president for that matter, than you are a fucking moron and need to have your head examined. I guess you like to have all of your money sent to another country across the world that has nothing to do with us at all, but is only being used for political advantages. Yet, the citizens of this country are treated like shit and are the last to get anything. I am all for helping fellow human beings, but flying immigrants in the middle of the night into the interior under the cloak of the night, in secret, putting them up in hotels? Paying for their healthcare, welfare? etc.? My parents came here and got nothing and yet they made their way.

I worry about why and what the hell is going on with your brain. Just because the "orange man" offends your sensibilities. When you are being vaporized in a nuclear blast, or starving to death, or your child is killed fighting a war that is senseless all for YOUR GREAT PRESIDENT, ETC., then you will wish you were back in the days of the orange man and his beligerant rantings. Because with all of that bullshit, and Dems trying to ruin him, and fighting dirty to win, we were safe, world leaders didn't think of fucking with us, and we were not going down hill record speed.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a fellow American who sees the forest for the trees.

V
 
right on!

if i understand you correctly, we're all americans and we're all in this together. but liberals are the worst and they're a bunch of morons.

got it :)

alasdair
 
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doing a better job than Trump
pandemically speaking, nobody could have done worse than trump.

it'd've been great for him to have been in a coma from december 2019 to the end of his presidency, and then countless americans would be alive that are now dead.

moderate conservative shitlib biden's presidency has been lukewarm, i'll give you that, but he didn't murder countless americans by deliberately spewing massive mounds of pandemic disinformation.

a wink's as good as a nod to a blind horse; trump didn't explicitly say "i command you to descend upon the capitol, angry murder- mob style" but it is plain to see the messaging between the lines. and that's saying nothing of the other politicians and their involvement.
 
pandemically speaking, nobody could have done worse than trump.

it'd've been great for him to have been in a coma from december 2019 to the end of his presidency, and then countless americans would be alive that are now dead.

moderate conservative shitlib biden's presidency has been lukewarm, i'll give you that, but he didn't murder countless americans by deliberately spewing massive mounds of pandemic disinformation.

a wink's as good as a nod to a blind horse; trump didn't explicitly say "i command you to descend upon the capitol, angry murder- mob style" but it is plain to see the messaging between the lines. and that's saying nothing of the other politicians and their involvement.
I am not Trump's number one fan, but no matter what seems to happen, you want to blame Trump. Was it really his fault? I think there is enough blame to go around. For one thing, alot of the information he was getting was from the great Dr Fauci, the disinformation king and the one who kept fellow doctors quiet while him and his organization flip flopped back and forth. Who the hell are we supposed to trust? I think the assholes who were testing this gain of function virus and then were careless enough -- or maybe purposelessy, we'll never know -- are more to blame for the lost lives than any one else.

Biden has been ice cold, at best, and his group is deliberately spending millions of dollars of tax payers money on a war that could get every one in this country killed. Will you blame Trump then too?

V
 
right on!

if i understand you correctly, we're all americans and we're all in this together. but liberals are the worst and they're a bunch of morons.

got it :)

alasdair
Some of my best friends are liberals, but we don't hate on each other. I think we need to forget about the politicians, all of them, because it is obvious they forgot about the people who put them where they are today.

Then again, are we the ones who put them in office? I don't think so. This country has lost anything that was worth being proud of it after WWII.

V
 
@Rainman1964

fauci didn't tell people that it was 'under control' and would be a nothingburger by easter 2020. fauci didn't insinuate/ suggest that people could potentially drink bleach to cure themselves. fauci didn't call it 'just a cold' or say that kids were immune. fauci didn't call it a democrat 'hoax'.

trump played into that hoaxer rhetoric quite a bit. politicized it. didn't support masks until months and months later (yes fauci dropped the ball by telling people not to wear masks early on), and before he could steal the credit for op warp speed, he played into antivaxxer hysteria. he killed many people with his words alone, and did almost the bare minimum while knowingly and willingly downplaying it.

trump even set up a coronavirus prayer day (might as well have been a masturbation day).

he also got the ball rolling with the stay-at-home stuff, ironically, before battling with governors about it and even saying he would override their authority on the matter... even telling people basically to overthrow them and that he would withhold relief because his glass spine had been chipped at by insults.

and i mean, this is just a small amount of stuff i cherry picked, and iirc not even close the worst of it.

if he had sewn his mouth shut and deleted his twitter in dec. 2019, many americans would not have died.
 
Biden has been ice cold, at best, and his group is deliberately spending millions of dollars of tax payers money on a war that could get every one in this country killed. Will you blame Trump then too?

V
So what's worse, spending billions of US taxpayer money in an attempt to help a sovereign nation break free from Russian invasion? Or spending TRILLONS of US taxpayer money lining the pockets of people who are already wealthy and who don't even need the extra money. Sure, at least the trillions that went to the wealthy and corporations were American but do you honestly think any single one of them gives a shit about you, me, or any other working American? Bootlick much?

And yes I will blame Trump for cozying up with Putin and setting the stage for the invasion in the first place thus putting the wheels in motion for the war that will get everyone in this country, nay the planet, killed.
 
I do.

Trump is a complete asshat and tool. He made the US an international laughingstock while he was on his knees sucking Putin's cock.

Loser got fired. Liar got fired.
ORANGE MAN BAD!!1

Would you have preferred he greatly increase the inflation rate, suck Zelensky's neo-nazi cock, start or support the third world war, and give trillions of dollars to Ukraine that certainly aren't going to help the regular people of Ukraine?
 
ORANGE MAN BAD!!1

Would you have preferred he greatly increase the inflation rate, suck Zelensky's neo-nazi cock, start or support the third world war, and give trillions of dollars to Ukraine that certainly aren't going to help the regular people of Ukraine?
Trillions of dollars to Ukraine. What are you talking about? You must do math like Trump does.

Putin invaded a country in 2014 and again last year. Zelensky Is not a neo-Nazi.

People don't just get to say they don't want to be part of a country anymore, that's not how it works.

Texas or Florida can't just decide that they don't want to be part of the United States anymore. That will get them invaded by the United States military.

Trump was a bitch ass president who couldn't believe he lost. The worst president in American history.
 
I think he might have been the worst in history on account of the effect he's had on demolishing trust in the system, and gleefully stomping on the existing wedge between the American populace for his own ego masturbation. It remains to be seen. There have been some other really bad presidents.

But regardless of whether he's THE worst, he's certainly one of the worst.
 
Trillions of dollars to Ukraine. What are you talking about? You must do math like Trump does.

Putin invaded a country in 2014 and again last year. Zelensky Is not a neo-Nazi.

People don't just get to say they don't want to be part of a country anymore, that's not how it works.

Texas or Florida can't just decide that they don't want to be part of the United States anymore. That will get them invaded by the United States military.

Trump was a bitch ass president who couldn't believe he lost. The worst president in American history.
Ok so it will be over a trillion counting this year and last year, and counting the amount that will get laundered, er given to the civilians of Ukraine. Even the amount already given is far too much. Where do you think this money comes from?

I don't want to pay for the Ukranian neo-nazis' continuing civil war where they killed lots of Ukranian civilians, destroyed hospitals, schools, and homes all because the civilians had the bad luck to be living in the wrong village, town, or province/region and were falsely thought to be 'Russian insurgents' by the Azov neo-nazis and Zelensky. I also don't want to pay for that madman neo-nazi Zelensky's desire for a third great war with Russia.





I don't see anything "illegal" about Crimeans or people from the Donbass province voting to become a part of Russia. Most people there are Russian both ethnically, and/or culturally, and both provinces do not want to be part of the Ukraine.

I think that what we're seeing here is democracy when it's convenient. Ukraine decided to break apart from the Soviet Union, and that's fine; but if the Donbass and the Crimea do not want to be a part of the Ukraine and they win a referendum (2/3 majority) in an election to become a part of Russia, this is acceptable.

To do otherwise, is extremely shortsighted and anti-Democracy, because Ukraine is going to have a restive province on their hands with a powerful backer making a military crackdown/ occupation inevitable. Further down the road we may see something akin to an IRA develop. This blood will not only be on the hands of Ukrainians but the UN as well since they seek to deny them their democratic voice in the recent referendum.

The majority of Russians and Ukranians do not want to be in a war. Most Ukranians have left Ukraine already, men, women, and children. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Why do you think so many people are forced into prostitution and trafficked into Western, Northern, Central, and Southern Europe, Canada, and the USA?

As for Trump I am neutral about him but the world was a lot better than, compared to now. Biden has Alzheimer's and his paedophile crackhead son, Joe's "wife" and other handlers easily manipulate him. He cares more about people in Ukraine, the Chinese, and central American illegal immigrants than he does actual citizens of the United States.

Outside of the USA Biden is not liked, and he made the USA into a laughingstock.
 
I think he might have been the worst in history on account of the effect he's had on demolishing trust in the system, and gleefully stomping on the existing wedge between the American populace for his own ego masturbation. It remains to be seen. There have been some other really bad presidents.

But regardless of whether he's THE worst, he's certainly one of the worst.
Nobody trusted the U.S. government before, and they are certainly not going to start now. 🤣

Biden and his administration, including Dr. Fauci/CDC, covid lockdowns and mandates that none of the local, state, federal, and world leaders took seriously, WHO and the UN, the media that Stalin and Lenin would be jealous of, and the hive mind neo-leftisT group think hypocrisy of social media are all to blame for destroying any trust in the government of the USA, or the government of other countries that anyone had remaining.
 
Ok so it will be over a trillion counting this year and last year, and counting the amount that will get laundered, er given to the civilians of Ukraine. Even the amount already given is far too much. Where do you think this money comes from?

I don't want to pay for the Ukranian neo-nazis' continuing civil war where they killed lots of Ukranian civilians, destroyed hospitals, schools, and homes all because the civilians had the bad luck to be living in the wrong village, town, or province/region and were falsely thought to be 'Russian insurgents' by the Azov neo-nazis and Zelensky. I also don't want to pay for that madman neo-nazi Zelensky's desire for a third great war with Russia.





I don't see anything "illegal" about Crimeans or people from the Donbass province voting to become a part of Russia. Most people there are Russian both ethnically, and/or culturally, and both provinces do not want to be part of the Ukraine.

I think that what we're seeing here is democracy when it's convenient. Ukraine decided to break apart from the Soviet Union, and that's fine; but if the Donbass and the Crimea do not want to be a part of the Ukraine and they win a referendum (2/3 majority) in an election to become a part of Russia, this is acceptable.

To do otherwise, is extremely shortsighted and anti-Democracy, because Ukraine is going to have a restive province on their hands with a powerful backer making a military crackdown/ occupation inevitable. Further down the road we may see something akin to an IRA develop. This blood will not only be on the hands of Ukrainians but the UN as well since they seek to deny them their democratic voice in the recent referendum.

The majority of Russians and Ukranians do not want to be in a war. Most Ukranians have left Ukraine already, men, women, and children. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Why do you think so many people are forced into prostitution and trafficked into Western, Northern, Central, and Southern Europe, Canada, and the USA?

As for Trump I am neutral about him but the world was a lot better than, compared to now. Biden has Alzheimer's and his paedophile crackhead son, Joe's "wife" and other handlers easily manipulate him. He cares more about people in Ukraine, the Chinese, and central American illegal immigrants than he does actual citizens of the United States.

Outside of the USA Biden is not liked, and he made the USA into a laughingstock.
No, it won't be a trillion, not anywhere close to a trillion.

It's not even 100 billion.

It's actually 77 billion


 
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