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Social Justice Jacob Blake shot seven times by white cop, paralyzed, may never walk again.

Noodle said:
@PriestTheyCalledHim

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Bringing Up ‘Black on Black Crime’ Is Racist

This tired idea makes the wrongful connection between Blackness and criminality
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Laugh all you like, but you are dead ass wrong in many of your assertions.
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As if medium is an actual study, and accurate. It is a glorified blog.

The Richmond pledge link is inaccurate-the 'pledge' is useless as most European/white Americans are already against racism, and the 1619 project is revisionist racist history that is not accurate either.

I am obviously not black but black, Asian, Arabic/Levantine, and Mexican and Central American friends who are in the USA have all told me how they have not experienced prejudice from European-Americans, or the police but have experienced true racism and bigotry from other non-European people, especially black Americans and people of their own race/ethnicity. This happens in the Northeastern USA, West Coast, Southwest, and South of the USA.
 
If you aren't even in the United States then you literally have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks for your time and interest, but your opines and accusations are moot.
 
Noodle said:
If you aren't even in the United States then you literally have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks for your time and interest, but your opines and accusations are moot.
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Not being from US doesn't make someone not able to understand statistics, numbers and reports.
I think that's a bad fucking argument and it's fallacy.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I am obviously not black but black, Asian, Arabic/Levantine, and Mexican and Central American friends who are in the USA have all told me how they have not experienced prejudice from European-Americans, or the police but have experienced true racism and bigotry from other non-European people, especially black Americans and people of their own race/ethnicity. This happens in the Northeastern USA, West Coast, Southwest, and South of the USA.
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This very well may be the case, Priest. Systemic flaws are not a guarantee to affect every single person in any social construct, human behavior is complex and a system governing that behavior is, by nature, due to be even more complex and experience wide variations. There will be Black people that have never experienced systemic racism, that's a fact, and I'm happy they have been able to avoid it. A systemic issue becomes a flaw when too many people are affected, though, and the majority finally protests and demands change. Not all Black people will experience racism, it's a huge country, but enough will experience racism that the it becomes a systemic flaw that needs to be addressed. These issues are never going to be absolute, if they were, the country and it's social construct would collapse.

On that topic, BLM doesn't need to be perfect, as long as the majority believe in it's underlying cause, it becomes the medium to achieve the end goal. If it's not perfect or pretty in the process, that's never going to be the concern, as creating the perfect medium is next to impossible. Human beings, by nature, are imperfect and so are our social constructs. Perfection will never exist.
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
Black Lives Matter is a marxist funded movement aiming to destabilize western society.
George Soros funding tells EVERYTHING you really need to know.
Why in their website one of their stated goals is destruction of the western nuclear family?
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True, it is a classic money laundering or pyramid scheme as well. The people at the top are getting lots of $€£ and never gave two shits about black lives, helping black people, etc. Leftist politicians in the USA are the EXACT same way. The division of people in the USA started with George W. Bush and continued with Obama who kowtowed to the racist black hate group BLM and supported radical Islam by trying to fuck up Egypt and put radical Mohammadeans in power there, and made Libya and Syria 1,000x worse, and supported the murderous, racist, and homophobic/biphobic Castro dictatorship in Cuba.

NONE of this subversion is new. It is EXACTLY the same BS actual Fascists in Central Europe did after the first world war, and what Marxists/Leninist/communists/socialists did in what was the USSR, in China, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Cuba.

Democratic socialism which is just socialism under another name, always fails. It has failed in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, El Salvador, Chile, Nicaragua, and Uruguay. Every time a country started down the socialist path, it fails.

The Nordic/Scandinavian or Northern European countries are not socialist. They are Capitalist and have a safety net for the do nothing dole welfare state. These countries are in many ways more capitalistic than my own: From the MIT paper, The Nordic Model:

"State intervention in the business sector is comparatively limited, as is regulation of markets."

Busting another common myth, Norway did not nationalize their nationall oil industry. Their government built it from scratch and expropriated nothing.

Also in the Nordic/Scandinavian/Northern European countries taxes are high, wages and salary is not that high, and the cost of living is super expensive compared to the USA as well as other European countries.





 
Noodle said:
@DeadManWalkin'

mappingpoliceviolence.org

Mapping Police Violence

Law enforcement agencies across the country are failing to provide us with even basic information about the lives they take. So we collect the data ourselves.
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Again, bad argument here.
Black people have been 28% of those killed by police in 2020 despite being only 13% of the population.
This is true, but it's fucking with the statistics to make it seem bad.
Blacks do over 50% of violent crime: They are in contact with police more often; so of course they're going to have more problems:
If you count it by how many police encounters there are / race and how many of them lead to police shooting unarmed men you'd find out white people get shot at higher %.
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
Black Lives Matter is a marxist funded movement aiming to destabilize western society.
George Soros funding tells EVERYTHING you really need to know.
Why in their website one of their stated goals is destruction of the western nuclear family?
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They did mention a disruption but the quote goes a bit further iirc

"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."
 
DopeM said:
They did mention a disruption but the quote goes a bit further iirc

"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."
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Yeah, well they want to replace it with communism.
 
Im just pointing it out.

I don't be necessarily believe it. Anyone can write anything and post it online. I'm interested to see these "villages" in working operation - maybe if these black youths had some parental guidance they'd know how to act around police.
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
Again, bad argument here.
Black people have been 28% of those killed by police in 2020 despite being only 13% of the population.
This is true, but it's fucking with the statistics to make it seem bad.
Blacks do over 50% of violent crime: They are in contact with police more often; so of course they're going to have more problems:
If you count it by how many police encounters there are / race and how many of them lead to police shooting unarmed men you'd find out white people get shot at higher %.
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And... that's where systemic racism comes in. Scrutiny such as this takes a snapshot of the current state with no context for how it got there. Statistics are great with the proper context.
 
DopeM said:
Im just pointing it out.

I don't be necessarily believe it. Anyone can write anything and post it online. I'm interested to see these "villages" in working operation - maybe if these black youths had some parental guidance they'd know how to act around police.
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Well, I certainly see men growing up without a father as a big problem.
They turn out to be emasculated or they turn out to be hypermasculine in gangs.
Lots of leftie culture on Hollywood has ruined the positive male role models in entertainment, which is really sad.
I don't think black conservatives have this problem. From what I've seen, they seem to be stand up people who believe in family.
I watched video of woman who told that she had to get on welfare and when she was getting it she was encouraged to divorce so she would get more money.
That's a great way to destroy the family.
After welfare got introduced in US black families fell apart. I did read a book about this subject from Thomas Sowell, who is a black man himself if anyone cares.
 
DopeM said:
Many marginalized groups have been able to avoid falling into the pit trap of crime. Native Americans, Irish Americans, Asian Americans, all come to mind
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Asian Americans have higher basic income than whites. Very weird that white supremacist country would allow this to happen.
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
Asian Americans have higher basic income than whites. Very weird that white supremacist country would allow this to happen.
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Oh you mean the slaves we used to build the railroads, imprisoned in concentration camps out of fear during the war?

B-b-but systemic racism.

I've married into a Japanese family whose patriarch was imprisoned in one of those camps and I don't hear them ever talk about what America owes them. You know what they talk about? God, Family, and Education
 
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