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Social Justice Jacob Blake shot seven times by white cop, paralyzed, may never walk again.

TheLoveBandit said:
I believe ANY citizen not complying is worsening the situation for themselves. I believe a cop like that is going to not handle it well regardless of the color of the citizen
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This is an interesting nuance here. This is always an argument in cases like this, and I truly believe there is a component of non-compliance with police as a form of protest and/or outright tired of the status quo. How long after someone gets harrassed or witnesses harassment by police for nonsense do they keep complying - and I'm not talking about this specific incident? This is another huge problem and point in need of careful consideration in regards to systemic change. It always comes back to the chicken or the egg, is non-compliance a symptom of systemic racism? When a human being has exhausted all avenues of peaceful avenues for change, we, as homo sapiens, will resort to more violent avenues in escalating fashions - it's simply a survival mechanism.
 
Jacob Blake was shot, repeatedly, in the back by police in front of his children. Once again, the incident was caught on video, sparking violent, but justified, protests. Will this ever end?!?

www.cnn.com

Wisconsin police shoot a Black man as his children watch from a vehicle, attorney says | CNN

Two Kenosha, Wisconsin, police officers are on leave Monday as state authorities investigate why a Black man was shot multiple times in the back as he entered the driver's side door of an SUV, officials said.
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Anonymous Dissident said:
Jacob Blake was shot, repeatedly, in the back by police in front of his children. Once again, the incident was caught on video, sparking violent, but justified, protests. Will this ever end?!?

www.cnn.com

Wisconsin police shoot a Black man as his children watch from a vehicle, attorney says | CNN

Two Kenosha, Wisconsin, police officers are on leave Monday as state authorities investigate why a Black man was shot multiple times in the back as he entered the driver's side door of an SUV, officials said.
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Already being discussed in another thread. Specifically the BLM thread.

I think we also have a police shooting thread if I'm not mistaken.
 
I think we can have a seperate thread, I was already considering moving everything specific to Jacob Blake from the BLM thread to it's own depending upon discussion levels, already, as I have a feeling it's going to need it.
 
www.nbcnews.com

Video shows Wisconsin police shooting Black man in back several times

The man, identified by his family as Jacob Blake, 29, was stable after being operated on.
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There appears to be new information coming out, of course still all speculation and nothing confirmed, but in the sake of being unbiased:

Raysean White, 22, who filmed the video, told NBC News that the incident first caught his attention when he heard a group of women arguing across the street from his apartment.

"Then the guy that got shot showed up," White said. "He pulled up in his truck, got out his truck, seen him walk up. His son was running towards him. He was picking up his son. He told his son to get in the grey truck, we about to go."

Minutes later, White said, he looked out of his window again to see "police out there wrestling" with the man, who was later identified as Blake, behind the vehicle.

White said he saw a female officer fire the Taser at Blake. White said he then started to record the incident, some of which is obscured by the vehicle. It is unclear what exactly transpired before the video starts.

"They were also yelling 'drop the knife,'" White said. "I didn’t see any weapons in his hands. He wasn’t being violent."
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(emphasis mine)

Some more (unverified) narrative:


Police were called because Jacob Blake was waving a knife around in a gas station. While en route, dispatch informed police that Blake had an outstanding warrant in regard to his recent sexual assault and domestic abuse charges.

Police deployed the taser and it failed.

Jacob Blake declared he had a gun in the car and was going to go get it. He continued to brandish the knife while disregarding officer commands.

When he reached into the car, officers fired.

Russell Preston, Facebook
 
mal3volent said:
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Nutty, do you think 7 shots to the back was necessary? Was one, two, three, four, five, or six shots just not enough to do the job? I guess when you don't submit to cops immediately you're just asking for it though.
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I'd prefer to wait til there's more information before making any more speculations. The fact that his kids were in the car is tragic but it doesn't necessarily mean anything as far as whether the officer was justified or not in using lethal force.

Deru said:
This is an interesting nuance here. This is always an argument in cases like this, and I truly believe there is a component of non-compliance with police as a form of protest and/or outright tired of the status quo.
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When cops have guns drawn on you and are asking you to do something that's not a good time to "protest" iirc. It seems like in all of these cases there's one thing in common, and that's that the suspect is resisting arrest. Why not just let it go to court if you're innocent. Not worth risking your life is it? I think one of the problems is that african americans are taught to distrust the police and it gets passed down from generation to generation.
 
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Deru said:
www.nbcnews.com

Video shows Wisconsin police shooting Black man in back several times

The man, identified by his family as Jacob Blake, 29, was stable after being operated on.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

There appears to be new information coming out, of course still all speculation and nothing confirmed, but in the sake of being unbiased:


(emphasis mine)

Some more (unverified) narrative:


Police were called because Jacob Blake was waving a knife around in a gas station. While en route, dispatch informed police that Blake had an outstanding warrant in regard to his recent sexual assault and domestic abuse charges.

Police deployed the taser and it failed.

Jacob Blake declared he had a gun in the car and was going to go get it. He continued to brandish the knife while disregarding officer commands.

When he reached into the car, officers fired.

Russell Preston, Facebook
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So you mean it might not have been cold blooded murder by a crazed racist cop with a bounty on black men? :rolleyes:
 
nuttynutskin said:
When cops have guns drawn on you and are asking you to do something that's not a good time to "protest" iirc.
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I would say it depends upon how the individual weighs certain variables, such as life experience with police, family history with police, and amount of change they seek. There's probably a real distrust of being too willing to comply, as well, mixed in there somewhere. I would imagine they feel they are doing the right thing, in the moment, for the circumstances given and how they weigh the variables at hand.

nuttynutskin said:
I think one of the problems is that african americans are taught to distrust the police and it gets passed down from generation to generation.
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Do you think think there is no valid reason for this? I'm sure many don't need to be taught, they see it every day for themselves. I'll add, I'm white and I used to live in the inner city, and from what I witnessed with my own two eyes, there is a reason that distrust exists.
 
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Deru said:
Do you think think there is no valid reason for this? I'm sure many don't need to be taught, they see it every day for themselves. I'll add, I'm white and I used to live in the inner city, and from what I witnessed with my own two eyes, there is a reason that distrust exists.
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I think it's severely exaggerated. I believe that there are absolutely cops that shouldn't be cops out there, but I don't believe that the majority of cops have some vendetta against african americans. By passing down the idea that cops shouldn't be trusted/respected it just perpetuates the cycle.
 
I would hope that wouldn't be the case.

Riots on night two started off chaotic, numerous large buildings set on fire, one collapsed. But, it seems to have quited down quite a bit. Here's to hoping it doesn't continue to escalate any further.

I did hear a National Guardsmen talking to a civilian who had witnessed the shooting, and the National Guardsmen seemed severely disturbed by the whole circumstance. He even said, "Let the cop hang," which was surprising to hear him talk so bluntly. I think everyone is getting exhausted with it all.
 
Deru said:
www.jsonline.com

'It's a miracle he's still alive': Jacob Blake, father of six, in stable condition after being shot by Kenosha police

Jacob Blake's family launched an online fundraising effort\u00a0Monday, quickly raising more than $150,000 in donations by late afternoon.
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I'd say that's a miracle, in more ways than one.
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I'm glad he lived so that this will go to trial. And maybe, just MAYBE some people will see that not every time a cop shoots a black person is because they're racist murderers. Probably won't do much good tho because it doesn't fit the narrative.
 
nuttynutskin said:
I'd prefer to wait til there's more information before making any more speculations. The fact that his kids were in the car is tragic but it doesn't necessarily mean anything as far as whether the officer was justified or not in using lethal force.
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uh, actually it does. cops are supposed to take into consideration innocent civilians and bystanders before shooting their guns. especially children, you know. we usually try to protect them. conservatives used to be really big on protecting life, born and unborn.
 
mal3volent said:
uh, actually it does. cops are supposed to take into consideration innocent civilians and bystanders before shooting their guns. especially children, you know. we usually try to protect them. conservatives used to be really big on protecting life, born and unborn.
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As far as I know the officer didn't hit any of the children.
 
nuttynutskin said:
As far as I know the officer didn't hit any of the children.
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Yes, but he could have. He fired 7 shots into the vehicle they were in. Just like the cop in Atlanta shot over cars in a crowded Wendy's parking lot.

Same conversation again as last time. Why not let him go and issue a warrant if he was suspected of doing something wrong? If he had a knife and was getting into his car, what is the logic of holding on to his shirt? If he had ever attempted to use the knife or appeared threatening, the cops would have done something at that point. And it would've been visible in the video.
 
mal3volent said:
Yes, but he could have. He fired 7 shots into the vehicle they were in. Just like the cop in Atlanta shot over cars in a crowded Wendy's parking lot.

Same conversation again as last time. Why not let him go and issue a warrant if he was suspected of doing something wrong? If he had a knife and was getting into his car, what is the logic of holding on to his shirt? If he had ever attempted to use the knife or appeared threatening, the cops would have done something at that point. And it would've been visible in the video.
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I don't think cops are really in the business of just letting people go. I don't think they'd catch very many bad guys that way. :LOL:

Also, a suspect with a knife getting into a vehicle with children in it... How do they know what his intentions are?

If these idiots would just quit resisting arrest it would probably do them a lot of good.
 
The guy with the knife going for his car he said had a gun?
Maybe he should have dropped the knife and not rush for his car. Are police supposed to wait until he gets a gun?
 
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