Harm Reduction IV'ing Oxy-contin 60mg tablets. (experienced oxy IV'ers plz read this thread)

[ABadPerson]

So it takes atleast 8mg of dilauded IV'd to get me my satisfactory level of high. Just wondering about these oxy's and if there's any differences in injecting oxy's compared to dilly's.

Of course i will peel the red skin off of the pill, crush with a pestle and mortar, and let the drug mix in cold water for 3-5 minutes. I'll use cotton as a filter (will be filtered twice to get as much binders/fillers as possible out).

Two questions:
1) Would injecting 60mg oxycontins follow the same procedure if i was prepping my rig for dilaudid? And if i need to inject 8mg of dilauded to feel good, how much oxy should i inject? I was very disappointed with IV'ing 4mg dilly because the rush lasted 15 minutes and after that i wasn't nodding out or anything. It was pretty weak. Just wondering if IV'ing these oxy's would be better and what would be an equivalent dosage of oxy to be prepped for IV if 8mg dilaudid is what i want.

Should i start shooting 30mg oxy, then take it from there? I've got two needles left and dunno when I'll get more so i want to make the most out of it before i go back to insufflating.

Any and all input is GREATLY appreciated. I just shot up my first time today and was unsatisfied due to my low dosage (only 4mg dilly). Seemed like a waste to put those needles into my arm just to get a 15 minute rush and then an hour long body high.

Is injecting oxy a lot weaker than injecting dilauded?
Remember: 8mg dilly IV'd is a decent dosage for me. What would be a decent dosage for oxy? My tolerance is high, i sniff 8-18mg dilly's whenever i can, and i rail an oxy 60 in two fat lines over the course of 20 mintues. I always get a great rush snorting hydro, not so much with the oxy.

Anyways now i'm being redundant, so the blunt of the question is - If i'm shooting 8mg dilly to feel good, how many mg of oxy should i shoot to feel an equal or more powerful high?

Also if anyone is experienced with injecting opioid pills like dillys and oxy's please PM me so i can be as fully informed as possible.

according to opiate conversion chart for IV it says that 20mg of oxy (IV) is == to 1.5mg hydromorphone... Does this mean i need over 100mg oxy to make the ~ of 8mg dilaudid? (Because this doesn't really make sense because when i insufflate 60mg oxy i nod the fuck out, but i need to insufflate 12-18mg of hydro no nod out.)

 

[woamotive]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/500360-Oxycodone-IR-Mega-Thread-v2.0

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/363176-IV-ing-OC

Check out those two threads. They're found in the OD directory.

 

[effie]

^ awesome work woamotive thanks :D

Few things:

Oral bioavailability of oxy is high and most people don't get much of a rush from IVing it, so the risk:benefit may not be worth shooting them..

The opioid conversion charts are a guide only and there is conflicting data out there and it can vary from person to person - especially converting from nasal to IV administration - if in doubt, always start low.

If you insufflate 60mg oxy and nod out, DO NOT IV more than 30mgs as nasal bioabailability is somewhere between 55-70% - if we assume the lower end for safety's sake then you are only absorbing 55% of your dose when you insufflate it, so approx. 30mgs - therefore IVing more than 30mgs could be an overdose for you. This might not be equivalent to 8mgs hydromorphone on the chart but you need to look at how you personally respond to the drug so it is much safer to work out your dose from what gets you nodding insufflated. If 30mgs IV isn't enough, you have 2 needles, you can always (cautiously) try more next time but you really don't want to risk an OD

If you're shooting pills you really need to be using a micron filter or you are risking fillers/binders in your lungs causing a progressive and irreversible lung disease called pneumoconiosis. Evidence for micron filters.

Okay, think that's all!

 

[DexterMeth]

Oral bioavailability of oxy is high and most people don't get much of a rush from IVing it, so the risk:benefit may not be worth shooting them..

I agree, and for my body, I do not get a rush at all, from IVing even pure oxycodone powder. It risk to benefit ratio is far too unbalanced when it comes to this ROA for oxycodone imo. If you react at all like use that don't get any real rush from it, you're asking to make your lungs bleed (from most likely improper filtration) and blacking out, thus not even being able to enjoy the high.

 

[Tripman]

I think you'll get a few more hits with this one in OD.

IV'ing oxy isn't worth it though. The oral BA is just too high and the rush ain't much at all.

BDD - > OD

 

[Hooddood78]

I usually (when I occasionally get Oxycontin) IV 80mg tablet but strongly suggest to get at least Sterifilt but MicronFilter is much more likely to keep you in condition... This disease or problem won´t come instantly - just think about your tomorrow a little. Sterifilt doesn´t cost you much, Micron is much more expensive but worth of your health though.

First I tike take colour of the surface with some alcoholpad. Then crush the pill into a nice powder and then add the sterile water. Shake a little... And then through MicronFilt to syringe and to the vein... Aah.

My problem is just the use of Subutex / Oxycodone at the same time some time - no worth (-> rush) for either that times. I´m just so stupid always to throw away good stuff like that..

-Hooddood78

 

[Znegative]

Start low but since the ba for insulation and iv are pretty close for oxy, you'll probably have to shoot the sixty. When I took opanas I found 1 10mg tab iv was about the same as 90 mg of oxy, and I think hydromorphone is half as strong as opana.

 

[onlyone3232]

I agree, and for my body, I do not get a rush at all, from IVing even pure oxycodone powder. It risk to benefit ratio is far too unbalanced when it comes to this ROA for oxycodone imo. If you react at all like use that don't get any real rush from it, you're asking to make your lungs bleed (from most likely improper filtration) and blacking out, thus not even being able to enjoy the high.

I actually did black out from shooting oxy once. i dont know what happened i can easily chew twice the amount I had. I hope I didnt do any damage to my lungs cuz it was heated & there was no micron filter.
how do u know that it causes ya lungs to bleed. maybe i should get a chest x-ray. does bleeding lungs fix themself?

im not gunna shoot oxy no more. i only did it a few times. stupid idea

 

[ABadPerson]

thanks for the advice, i think i'll stick to slamming dilly's unless i have microns. I wish i could just go buy them from a pharmacy instead of having to order online. that's a pain the ass

 

[SUB SHOOTER 2010]

Unless you have one of the old OC 60 mg pills then your gonna have to go through a long, probably unsafe process anyways. The new Oxycontin pills have OP written on them and you cant just put water on them like the old ones. I agree that shooting oxy(for me at least) is weak. I find that i cant even fit the amount that i want to IV in a 1 ML syringe. But I'm used to shooting opanas and heroin so thats probably why.

 

[Deleted member 80237]

as stated, the pills you have probably aren't suitable/safe for injection, but i whole-heartedly disagree with everyone saying that injecting oxycodone is not worth it/produces no rush. i get an excellent rush, and always have, i just have to do quite a lot these days.