[Ivermectin 12 or 14mg] - [First time] - In the trenches with horse-paste (or how I got rid of ass worms).

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Update since its been several months since I first took this. I was feeling great until about 3 weeks ago. Started coughing again in the morning and I noticed a change in bowel movements despite no change in diet. My poop had started coming out harder again like before. It wasn't sliding out as easy and had a look about it that's hard to describe. This all sounds nasty I know but I check my poop now regularly because I'm still paranoid about getting infested again.

Well since fall is coming and it was getting close anyway I decided to go ahead and do the fall dose. I took the first one a few days ago. Same dose as I took in March. The next morning my cough was gone. I didn't have a bowel movement until the day after but I noticed a few hours after taking the ivermectin my guts were making the same noises as last time so I knew it at least it was doing its thing. It got me somewhat drowsy which was helpful because I took it a few hours before bed time on an empty stomach.

On day 2 going into 3 (morning time) I had a bowel movement. Looked mostly normal. The next day I have another bowel movement and I saw that I had passed a few worms in the shape of worm shaped poo. Which I only see whenever I take this stuff. They looked just like the ones I passed the first time when I had a bunch of them coming out. So I'd picked up more eggs somewhere and ate them somehow despite being very careful about hand washing and food prep. I figure I got them from either eating out or from petting animals. I'm trying to get more proactive about washing my hands good after petting our cats and before eating. But it's impossible not to touch my face after touching things that could have worm eggs already on them. If my cats are bringing them in then they must be all over everything in the house by now and I can't spend all day washing things with bleach after the cat jumps on them. The cats are assholes and sometimes jump on counters or sleep on the dinner table. So there isn't much I can do about that.

Another thing I noticed is while it hadn't got nearly as bad as before yet eating ice cream and drinking milk was starting to give me the intolerance symptoms I was having before. This went away the day after I dosed. So it looks like you only need a few worms to start causing the lactose intolerance thing. Don't get me wrong it wasn't horrible. No liquid shits. But it was starting to get me a little gas.

Coughing in the morning has ceased again. Mild lactose intolerance is gone again. Bowel movements are now totally normal and no longer hard or in that odd texture. They now look the same as they did for the 3 or so months after I first took this stuff and expelled the high worm load I'd been carrying forever.

My stomach never returned to a pot belly no matter how much I eat now. It has never looks swollen since. I've also been gaining weight for the first time in years. Put on 15 pounds and it went to the right places. Felt a lot better in general. Less depressed. More energy. I even feel like I'm thinking clearer.

I'm trying to find a doctor that's willing to prescribe me pills instead of having to take the paste. But so far no luck. None of them believe me and thanks to that whole media frenzy about this substance they're unwilling to prescribe the pills. I wish I would have saved that worm that came out on its own so I could show the doctors. I don't understand why this medicine isn't OTC in pill form for humans. It has a much better safety profile than a lot of stuff on the market. I'm still in shock that I live in what's supposed to be the greatest country on Earth. Yet this drug and so many others that are OTC everywhere else in the world require a prescription here.

Looks like I'm going to be stuck buying the kind for horses for the foreseeable future. It's a lot cheaper than handing a GP money who won't do anything anyway. At least I got blood work out of the deal I guess. Which wonderful news: My B12 level have returned to normal and I don't require injections of it anymore to maintain it. Must be part of why I feel better. I'm not taking in all the good stuff from the food I eat instead of freeloaders stealing it.

 

[iom]

Thanks for another update! You could try giving ivermectin to your cats too. It shouldn't be difficult to find info online about the appropriate dosage(s). A good friend of mine had a cat who was always sick and throwing up. He kept taking him to vets until one properly diagnosed the cat with parasites. The cat was treated, and within a week, had completely stopped throwing up and continued to live well to at least 20 years old. Back then, we didn't have ivermectin and the anti-parasite drugs were a lot more toxic. Ivermectin might easily be in the top 5 best new (medicinal) drugs of the 21h century.

Last time I went to the doctor, all my metrics were apparently stellar. I wish I felt as stellar as my metrics say I should, but I do work hard to maintain and improve my health. Two of my grandparents were healthcare professionals, and I have always been somewhat skeptical about medical practice. Time and time again I've seen dramatic reversals in medical advice given on a whole host of subjects, but most recently, I lived through a kind of hell which was caused by me discontinuing a drug that's been widely used by millions of people since the 1950s.

The root cause of all this was that I acted on information consistent with the standard of care and official medical advice. The information about the extent of effects of said drug(s) and especially about the consequences of discontinuation turned out to be completely and utterly wrong. For example, the UpToDate reference, which is widely relied upon by doctors as the "standard of care", claimed that the withdraw syndrome lasted "up to several weeks", but I learned the hard way (and verified both through research of underlying fundamentals and much social media and online activist commentary) that the withdraw syndrome doesn't even fully develop until at least 3-4 months after discontinuation. Furthermore, I also learned the hard way that the withdraw syndrome is not rapidly reversed by reinstating the drug at the original strength. The documentation of symptoms I experienced was woefully limited as well and were completely missing some of the most severe ones.

In any case, I've more-or-less worked out that while the medical establishment struggles to properly acknowledge the syndrome, much of the "online community" advice is also bunk, and they are extremely cultish about it, a tendency which seems undoubtedly amplified by the extremity of suffering that one endures by going through the experience. Fortunately, I have a lot of "popular knowledge" of people trying to quit psyche drugs, particularly SSRIs in which the withdraw syndrome may be delayed for months and which a taper over the course of several years may be necessary to avoid debilitating symptoms. I'm now following a long-term taper plan and am hoping that I don't have to deal with too many surprises. I start reinstating treatment in January, and I still haven't really "stabilized" yet. It's just unbelievable how badly the withdraw syndrome fucked up my body, but I continue to see steady progress and have hope this trend will continue.

I tell this story to emphasize that contemporary medical practice has large, dangerous blind-spots, especially where drugs are concerned. Even drugs which have been extensively studied and have been used by millions for decades can be grossly misunderstood, and the consequences of this in terms of perpetuated human suffering are enormous. I've avoided discussing specifics about the drug and syndrome because it's not at all a "recreational" thing and I don't want to take up a lot of space here, but I can elaborate elsewhere if people are interested.